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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:15 pm
by nutella
Bit also yeah good summary lol.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:16 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Lost my place.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 pm
by Benson
sprit seems really concerned about votes and suspicion even though we're far out from EoD and he doesn't have *that* much heat. I'm a little pinged by that.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 pm
by Creature
[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:19 pm
by Michelle
Eva may be wrong and tunnely as villager. No one is mafia god.

Sorry for low activity today, work and homesite happened to be both demanding. I am now home and i'll play until i'll fell asleep. Is 8:20 pm btw.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:21 pm
by Michelle
Going for few Isos catching up is very hard to do tonight.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:21 pm
by sprityo
Spoiler: show
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:34 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:28 pm Since Mac apparently refuses to read my earlier posts, here's the case all laid out in one place for easy reference:
1: Defends Jack for no apparent reason really early, feels the need to go digging for a game to back him up. Answers his own leading question in the process. Jack/Mac W/W?
2: No energy/fire, tone badly off. Letting two scumreads get under his skin when he's usually more resilient than that.
3: Severe lack of game content, directly stating his intent to not produce more until people start townreading him. This is not town behavior.
4: Didn't vote me until I directly fucking challenged him to. Tried to get Nanook to vote me first. No balls.
5: Just in general gives the impression he's scared to be lynched. Mac in WC1 deliberately looked scummy D1, and he was still townier than this.
1 - I addressed.
2 - I addressed.
3 - This is the first time you said this.
4 - This is the first time you said this.
5 - Well that's like your opinion and how am I meant to rebuke it? It's a bad faith argument to make that point and at the same time goad me into defending myself.


It's like;

"Why are you reacting to every suspicion Mac!"
Mac memes and ignores Evenstar.
"Why won't you answer me Mac!"
Mac answers her.
"Ha, see, scared of being lynched."

It's bullshit case making. At best bad tunneling. Probably just the same irrational scum hunting you tried to pull in wc1 on me.
Please restate your responses to 1 and 2. Also, any actual replies to 3 and 4?
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:05 pm 1. I didn't defend Jack for no apparent reason. I have observed jack FPS read Creature town before and initially thought that it might be a scumtell so I went to check whether it was from a scum game but found it was an indy game.
2. I fully expected this game to be chill. Several people said they were gonna phone it in and have fun. I didn't anticipate getting attacked for being relaxed and was not mentally prepared for it. I prepared myself for the champs games. Those are not my usual mode at all. I rarely if ever top post in games on here. Also I have been phone posting and it's been the weekend and I've been trying to enjoy my beers, bbq and pool time while playing. I was frustrated because people were suspecting me for irrational reason on day 0 when I didn't want to have to take this game seriously. I can't help myself sometimes though.
3. I ... don't think this is actually true?
4. How does this make me scum? You are making such basic reads. I can vote for whoever I want, whenever I want. All that matters is where my vote ends up. This is why i think you are bad. You are not considering your opinions, you are just making them.
Hmmmmm.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
Spoiler: show
Evenstar wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:47 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:45 pm
Evenstar wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:40 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:37 pm
Evenstar wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Evenstar wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm
Spoiler: show
Image

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation
I doublechecked my read list against pawn's because I know he's good at reading games, and usually does so fairly truthfully regardless of alignment. His reads agree with mine, and disagree with yours. That says I'm not just playing badly; you're scum.
let me get this straight

pawn's reads make me scum

???????

*confused math lady*
The fact that my reads agree with Pawn's but not yours say that I'm reading the game correctly and you're reading the game incorrectly. Scum have strong reason to read the game incorrectly. Therefore you are either scum or incompetent, and I don't think of you as an incompetent player. Nor have you twigged me as playing unusually badly this game.
This is such garbage lol. Why are pawn's reads "correct" this is so egotistical. And sure maybe my reads are wrong, like I said I'm not feeling very strongly about a lot of them. Give me a goddamn break.
Pawn's reads are correct because he's good at mafia. The fact they largely-but-not-entirely agree with mine also helps.
1. Accusation
2. Response
3. Comparison
4. "this is bullshit"
5. "oh tell me again?"
6. Told again
7. Backpedal

missing the last couple steps but this case in different in that evenstar was accusing Mac with topics that he could address, while this approach is just saying nutella is bad based off of an opinion. If anything Evenstar is tunneling again.

I'd vote her again if i wasnt already doing so because being 1. a vocal player, and 2. making outlandish claims without proper backing, doesnt sit well in my book

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:21 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 pm also this whole thing regardung the charts is like useless

i don't want to shut it down but i really think it's not getting us anywhere

nutella and eva are still both towny to me
Why is Eva townie?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:22 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Michelle wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:19 pm Eva may be wrong and tunnely as villager. No one is mafia god.

Sorry for low activity today, work and homesite happened to be both demanding. I am now home and i'll play until i'll fell asleep. Is 8:20 pm btw.
I am but there are god of many things.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:22 pm
by sprityo
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 pm sprit seems really concerned about votes and suspicion even though we're far out from EoD and he doesn't have *that* much heat. I'm a little pinged by that.
good

i can make you medium pinged about it too

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm
by sprityo
Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:24 pm
by vanity.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:21 pm
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 pm also this whole thing regardung the charts is like useless

i don't want to shut it down but i really think it's not getting us anywhere

nutella and eva are still both towny to me
Why is Eva townie?
i guess i'm going to be lazy and say "meta" but her being this active and making charts is more in line with her town play i think

also her calling nutella a wolf looks exactly like something she did to me in an anon turbo game on mu when we were looking at the game much differently

idk this spam-y type of evenstar is way more likely to come from village

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:25 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Whatever. I think Eva sounds fake. Watch out for her trying to change personas.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
by Hyena
Howdy, all. o/

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
by sprityo
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
hello dingo ate my baby

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
by vanity.
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
howdy, glad to see you here. how's it going?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?
I think you color coding a bunch of shit with 7 different colors on D1 makes you look good but I’m already voting Eva so I didn’t read what you actually had to say about her.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
by Hyena
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
hello dingo ate my baby
I ate the dingo, actually.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
by Creature
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:25 pm Whatever. I think Eva sounds fake. Watch out for her trying to change personas.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine
Okay

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?
I think you color coding a bunch of shit with 7 different colors on D1 makes you look good but I’m already voting Eva so I didn’t read what you actually had to say about her.
i slapped some colors on two different walls of text like a 1st grader and called it good

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
by Creature
Oh shit, I may be blending

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
by Creature
At least I'm a self-aware scum

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
by Hyena
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
howdy, glad to see you here. how's it going?
Doing pretty good! You?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
by sprityo
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
aagron > larvitar

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Creature
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:24 pm idk this spam-y type of evenstar is way more likely to come from village
Let's just test some wagons

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
that’s right

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by nutella
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
hello dingo ate my baby
I ate the dingo, actually.
Bs you live on different continents

(Mac is the dingo)

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Hyena
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm Oh shit, I may be blending
You're in a blender?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Creature
Stagnancy won't help us at all

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Creature
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
aagron > larvitar
Tyranitar > Aggron > Larvitar

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Hyena
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
hello dingo ate my baby
I ate the dingo, actually.
Bs you live on different continents

(Mac is the dingo)
I'll find a way to eat Mac. :9

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
by vanity.
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
howdy, glad to see you here. how's it going?
Doing pretty good! You?
doin okay

kinda chilling, i'm townreading a lot of people and it's bad for me i think. plus i'm not really devoting that much time to this game anyways.

i want to vote off sprityo. considering a juliets vote or maybe tonystarkprime or something

trying to sort it out

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?
I think you color coding a bunch of shit with 7 different colors on D1 makes you look good but I’m already voting Eva so I didn’t read what you actually had to say about her.
i slapped some colors on two different walls of text like a 1st grader and called it good
Well now you know how to pocket me for future reference.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
by Creature
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm Oh shit, I may be blending
You're in a blender?
Yep, I am

In a cold hard blender.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
by Hyena
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
aagron > larvitar
Tyranitar > Aggron > Larvitar
He's got you there, Sprit

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
by sprityo
im gonna go back and see why i have 3 votes

im gonna TRY and not get upset because i want to go to sleep early tonight

but i just might if it's just "oh, hmm, he doesnt want vote, yes. exquisite" like BITCH OF COURSE I DONT WANT VOTES NO ONE WANTS VOTES

brb

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:31 pm
by sprityo
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
aagron > larvitar
Tyranitar > Aggron > Larvitar
He's got you there, Sprit
im a fool in man's clothing

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:32 pm
by vanity.
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm im gonna go back and see why i have 3 votes

im gonna TRY and not get upset because i want to go to sleep early tonight

but i just might if it's just "oh, hmm, he doesnt want vote, yes. exquisite" like BITCH OF COURSE I DONT WANT VOTES NO ONE WANTS VOTES

brb
okay i'm not gonna vote you chill

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:32 pm
by nutella
Yeah sprit is actually just town y'all.


Jack idk.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:34 pm
by Creature
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm At least I'm a self-aware scum
that’s right
Image

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:34 pm
by vanity.
[VOTE: 112] aubergine

let's pressure here actually

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:35 pm
by Creature
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:34 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

let's pressure here actually
Whatever

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:36 pm
by Hyena
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
howdy, glad to see you here. how's it going?
Doing pretty good! You?
doin okay

kinda chilling, i'm townreading a lot of people and it's bad for me i think. plus i'm not really devoting that much time to this game anyways.

i want to vote off sprityo. considering a juliets vote or maybe tonystarkprime or something

trying to sort it out
So, like, I remember I was scumreading Sprit at one point with Mac earlier during the pre-game phase. If I remember correctly, it was in reaction to a response he made to Jack about him being obvtown is asking for too much (since Jack had asked him to be). I haven't read any of Sprit's posts since then though.

Tony was (still is?) voting for juliets while I was lightly townreading her, and I was going to pressure him last night before deciding that sleep sounded like the better idea. Tony also got involved in one of my interactions last night (it might've been the Spiny one) and appeared to be defending me without really directly defending me. I may have read it wrong though since Tony later complained about my post.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:38 pm
by sprityo
Master Radish - picks apart my catchup post to tell me it's not a read wall and i havent done shit. im also trying to snuggle with mac apparently. - bare minimum okay to vote
Iaafr - "i like radish and this looks better than elephant" - bullshit, lazy, please give me a better reason than "same"
vanity - it seems i scared off vanity, but they wanted to vote me because they didnt like my intense irrational fear of having votes - poopy reason, not a problem now

mentions:
Benson gave me a side eye for the same reason vanity voted me
Pawn threw me at the bottom of his list for being mostly shit posts but i think he was just trying to fit someone, anyone onto the bottom half of his list (see Rej as well)

in conclusion: bad votes, no backing. next please

only one i wouldnt be upset about is master radish and thats because he had some modicum of an explanation albeit it was bad

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:39 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Is 112 is he or a she? They haven’t filled out their profile and have conflicting avatars.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:39 pm
by sprityo
vanity. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:32 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm im gonna go back and see why i have 3 votes

im gonna TRY and not get upset because i want to go to sleep early tonight

but i just might if it's just "oh, hmm, he doesnt want vote, yes. exquisite" like BITCH OF COURSE I DONT WANT VOTES NO ONE WANTS VOTES

brb
okay i'm not gonna vote you chill
i can't not be chill given my buttons are being pushed by all these votes

but since you asked, i will go eat some cereal and resume my browsing of the thread as posts come in

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:40 pm
by vanity.
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:38 pm Master Radish - picks apart my catchup post to tell me it's not a read wall and i havent done shit. im also trying to snuggle with mac apparently. - bare minimum okay to vote
Iaafr - "i like radish and this looks better than elephant" - bullshit, lazy, please give me a better reason than "same"
vanity - it seems i scared off vanity, but they wanted to vote me because they didnt like my intense irrational fear of having votes - poopy reason, not a problem now

mentions:
Benson gave me a side eye for the same reason vanity voted me
Pawn threw me at the bottom of his list for being mostly shit posts but i think he was just trying to fit someone, anyone onto the bottom half of his list (see Rej as well)

in conclusion: bad votes, no backing. next please

only one i wouldnt be upset about is master radish and thats because he had some modicum of an explanation albeit it was bad
since you acknowledge the fear of being lynched as irrational i don't really think there's anything to talk to you about

i think mr and iaafr are villagery but you're probably ml bait at this point

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:40 pm
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:39 pm Is 112 is he or a she? They haven’t filled out their profile and have conflicting avatars.
it's a number? :confused:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:41 pm
by Benson
[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:42 pm
by sprityo
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:41 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
thank fuck

i like your balls dude, got a real set, gotta clack em

just not at me, im gonna have to castrate you im sorry