Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[sabie12]

I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

remind me, did you claim miller?

Me? No I did not but FG did along with also claiming to be unlynchable. I thought that was kind of a weird combo like that combo basically serves to screw town. Like someone comes up as mafia when checked and then a lynch gets wasted on them and then the day is wasted. I mean I guess Jack may have done that it just seemed weird from a logistical standpoint.

[Hally]

I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

remind me, did you claim miller?

Me? No I did not but FG did along with also claiming to be unlynchable. I thought that was kind of a weird combo like that combo basically serves to screw town. Like someone comes up as mafia when checked and then a lynch gets wasted on them and then the day is wasted. I mean I guess Jack may have done that it just seemed weird from a logistical standpoint.

ok, just wanted to check

[Hally]

nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?

Bingo

[Hally]

can i haz gold star

[Alison]

nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?

Bingo

Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?

Bingo

Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)

When I asked her she literally said there was no flavor justification, idk what you’re on about

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Quote it?

[Hally]

nanook is the reason that fg said there was no flavor reason for her yeetproof?

Bingo

Huh? I thought she said the flavor was that Jack Sparrow could escape out of a tight situation quickly, and that's reflected in being impossible to execute. (I haven't watched Pirates of the Carribean so I don't know if this makes too much sense, but the general gist of the character I've gotten from seeing people talk about it leads me to believe it's a sensical flavor.)

no iirc other people said that but she said there was no flavor reason

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean she definitely explicitly said there was no flavor reason in response to me

If you saw her say differently somewhere quote it for me please

[Alison]

Oh okay

that does seem bad, because I know I have a flavor justification for both parts of my role card (the miller and the something else)

if FG was scum using the provided fake claim wouldn't that have a justification on it though? Surely the host didn't make the fake claims not have flavor?

[Alison]

I mean she definitely explicitly said there was no flavor reason in response to me

If you saw her say differently somewhere quote it for me please

think I just misread

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’d like to hear everyone weigh in on whether they have flavor justification or not then we’ll make a decision lol

[Hally]

idk man

this is venturing a bit too far into “reading the mod” and angleshooting idk how i feel about it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I do in case that wasn’t glaringly obvious

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

idk man

this is venturing a bit too far into “reading the mod” and angleshooting idk how i feel about it

I feel pretty good tbh

I am in my element

[Long Con]

I have flavour justification.

[Hally]

I’d like to hear everyone weigh in on whether they have flavor justification or not then we’ll make a decision lol

i have a flavor justification for the miller part

i think the other part is also tied to my character although its a bit less explicit

[sabie12]

I mean she definitely explicitly said there was no flavor reason in response to me

If you saw her say differently somewhere quote it for me please

Yeah I thought that was weird too. Like it would make sense for there to be a flavor reason. I've seen the movies so that makes sense. It's weird that wouldn't have been part of the role description unless she didn't realize what "flavor" meant in that context?

[sabie12]

I have flavor justification for mine as well.

[Alison]

she knows what flavor means

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Get in bitches we’re going borderline angle shooting


Everyone should be claiming two things rn—do you have miller + another role (don’t claim what, just yes for two roles no for just one)

And if you have flavor justification or not, just a yes/no

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean she definitely explicitly said there was no flavor reason in response to me

If you saw her say differently somewhere quote it for me please

Yeah I thought that was weird too. Like it would make sense for there to be a flavor reason. I've seen the movies so that makes sense. It's weird that wouldn't have been part of the role description unless she didn't realize what "flavor" meant in that context?

Reasonably sure FG knows what flavor is

[Alison]

this seems like a really weird way to bus your partner so it's probably not a bus which means hally and nanook might be cleared if FG is scum (which I think she is now)

[sabie12]

I mean she definitely explicitly said there was no flavor reason in response to me

If you saw her say differently somewhere quote it for me please

Yeah I thought that was weird too. Like it would make sense for there to be a flavor reason. I've seen the movies so that makes sense. It's weird that wouldn't have been part of the role description unless she didn't realize what "flavor" meant in that context?

Reasonably sure FG knows what flavor is

Then yeah that is sketchy.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean this is all irrelevant if FG flips town

But yeah I think nonzero chance we just have a mafia

[Hally]

nanook seeing an opportunity for angleshooting:

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Er, >rand, not nonzero lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook seeing an opportunity for angleshooting:

Borderline!

[Alison]

imo this isn't really angleshooting

like imagine if I claimed some completely stupid role that obviously isn't in the game like "king leopold the third", you would just scumread me for it. this flavor fail thing is like an extension of that kind of logic

[Hally]

nanook seeing an opportunity for angleshooting:

Borderline!

yea yea, tell it to the judge

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook seeing an opportunity for angleshooting:

Borderline!

yea yea, tell it to the judge

These spurious allegations will never stand, I’ll walk on a technicality, hee ho!

[Alison]

I'm still wondering why FG didn't just copy the flavor from her fake claim card though if she is scum? Or if her fake card didn't have flavor on it? Both seem like odd things to happen

[Hally]

imo this isn't really angleshooting

like imagine if I claimed some completely stupid role that obviously isn't in the game like "king leopold the third", you would just scumread me for it. this flavor fail thing is like an extension of that kind of logic

yea it isnt really probably, i just wanted to tease him

[Millium]

I am not a miller

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That’s half of what I’m asking for!

[sabie12]

I'm still wondering why FG didn't just copy the flavor from her fake claim card though if she is scum? Or if her fake card didn't have flavor on it? Both seem like odd things to happen

It also would have been easy to make up a flavor reason if there wasn't one so strange decision to choose not to.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also sabie is now in the towncore imo

[Millium]

That’s half of what I’m asking for!

if the second question is asking if my role has anything to do with my flavor? then the answer is no

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That’s half of what I’m asking for!

if the second question is asking if my role has anything to do with my flavor? then the answer is no

So there’s no flavor description/tie between flavor and role even a tenuous one?

[Alison]

my proposed towncore is kitsu, sabie, nanook, hally and myself if you guys trust me

[Hally]

idgi it either like all fg had to do was make one up or copy what other ppl were saying

like if shes jack sparrow and unyeetable the flavor justification is quite obvious?

but maybe she didnt realize it was a trap

[Hally]

Also sabie is now in the towncore imo

yea id be pretty shocked if shes scum

[Hally]

tbh all this stuff has made me forget what my reads even are lol

[Millium]

That’s half of what I’m asking for!

if the second question is asking if my role has anything to do with my flavor? then the answer is no

So there’s no flavor description/tie between flavor and role even a tenuous one?

nothing at all for me

[Millium]

tbh all this stuff has made me forget what my reads even are lol

reads? what are those? kek

[Hally]

theres no reads anymore, only angleshooting

[Hally]

That’s half of what I’m asking for!

if the second question is asking if my role has anything to do with my flavor? then the answer is no

So there’s no flavor description/tie between flavor and role even a tenuous one?

nothing at all for me

not even if you squint and tilt your head sideways? you cant see any relation from your character description to your role?

[sabie12]

theres no reads anymore, only angleshooting

Yeah the early end of day and then no flip on FG makes it a little more difficult.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean uh

There should be some kind of description of “here’s your flavor, here’s your role” and you’re claiming...zero flavor?

Wut