Re: Night 3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:29 pm
It's not a Misfits scenario. It's as simple as thinking BeaNuk makes too much sense to not be true.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Epignosis had the worst possible role,
“*squeaks angrily*”
Rabbit of Caerbannog - That rabbit is dynamite! - In addition to killing on odd nights on even nights you will search for Brother Maynard. If you find Brother Maynard you won't/can't kill him but will earn (1) instant kill to be used whenever you wish (day or night). LMS
Ask and you shall receiveBullzeye wrote:I wonder if the good Lord will show up tonight. I'm super tired so I hope I don't miss him. Or her. Whichever.
SVS vs. LC. I am asking as to why you feel about both the way you do. And I still don't feel like you've answered that.juliets wrote:What did i refuse to give you an opinion on?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I think I've decided.
I am not voting for Made or MR. I don't really see a strong enough case on MR, and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become. I am going to stick with juliets this time around. While I appreciate her trying to be helpful and showing me her list and whatnot, I still feel like she refused to give me a direct opinion on something....when I asked her 3 times to do so. So it felt like she was deliberately avoiding answering my question about LC and SVS.
Votes Juliets
Linki: Rey, you should vote for someone other than MR and Made. Because I smell something funny coming from this lynch.
It's not so much my opinion on Made. It's that I am so baffled by him that it might take me awhile to develop one of him again.Enrique wrote:You're encouraged to voice your opinion. As long as it's genuine, you should have nothing to fear.BWT wrote:and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become.
As you may have gathered, I do agree.thellama73 wrote:SVS, can you elaborate on your vote for LC? Do you agree with me about his "who do you think will get lynched?" question?
I did say that I might not be on before the deadline, and I did ask MR why he voted for me.Canucklehead wrote:My only hesitation re: MM is that he hasn't seemed to have had any sort of reaction to all the "I think I'm suspicious of MM but I have no reason or evidence for why" talk (including my own) that has been tossed about in the last few days. When I'm a civ and my name keeps coming up for absolutely no reason at all, I get CRAY CRAY bothered by it and make a big fuss. Maybe that's just not the way MM rolls, but I do find it a little odd that he isn't at all bugged by the really flimsy accusations about him and the repeated resurfacing of his name.
(If such a response exists, please someone point me to it....)
But I will address this comment. You've made cases against other players, but not against me. At one point, you even said you suspected me only because I suspect you. This doesn't gel. But I guess being a potential lynchee, you'll put your vote anywhere to save yourself. I will not fault you for that.Made wrote:What was your opinion of voting to save me? I'd be willing to change my vote to MM, another vote from JC (I think she also spoke suspicions of MM) would be enough to at least tie it.
Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boonGOD wrote:Ask and you shall receiveBullzeye wrote:I wonder if the good Lord will show up tonight. I'm super tired so I hope I don't miss him. Or her. Whichever.![]()
The LORB is returned. Having perused your offerings from the other night, I have decided to shine my light upon YOU, Bullzeye. I have granted you a boon. You will not know what it is until games end, but with luck you will benefit from it.
Since the only LORBS more Magnificent than I, DP & Roxy, have graciously allowed me to be here, I would like to see some words of praise for them. It may be in any form you like, but the more praiseful, the better. The next night I have a boon, I will extend it to the best praise of our Hosts.
THE LORB HAS SPOKEN
You may now grovel.
I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrrDisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT
What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?
PM both hosts your guess.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrrDisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT
What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?
PM both hosts your guess.
The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.Bullzeye wrote:
Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boonI find there are no words adequate enough to praise the glorious, wonderful, magnificent overlords that are our lovely hosts in this game.
Well I'm out of bread and no shops are open at quarter to one in the morning so you'll have to ask someone else for toast.GOD wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrrDisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT
What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?
PM both hosts your guess.
The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.Bullzeye wrote:
Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boonI find there are no words adequate enough to praise the glorious, wonderful, magnificent overlords that are our lovely hosts in this game.
Neither, I don't think. I don't think he's appearing stupid, first of all. And he certainly isn't stupid. I think he's just being him. He knows what he's doing--he's smart as fuck and is one of the very few players who have been at this longer than I have who are still playing. I don't see why you think he's trying to appear stupid, though. I guess I don't get what you're saying.Made wrote:Don't play this game unless you REALLY know what your doing or REALLY don't.Long Con wrote:Even if it were as you described, I don't see me basing my team's voting plan on Llama's Opinion. I hear you're a smart guy, Llama, but I don't know that I would place that much faith in your opinion.
It's gotta be either genuine stupidity or calculated stupidity to work. Trust me I'm stupid.
Made wrote:Didn't mean to imply they were.S~V~S wrote:LC is far from stupid, Made.
Dana, any opinion on Bullz? Bea? Anyone?
I'm just saying it's hard to argue for those accusing you with out either being blissfully ignorant or have the situation awareness to you how far you can go to avoid suspicion, then the lack of common sense to go above and beyond that.
It's called starting a bandwagon.Made wrote:Yo, SVS, is there a term for voting in hopes of getting others to vote someone? Because I've noticed that happens a lot.
Woah-linki kinda related? Basically mafia vote getting tactics.
Double related linki
And, why should we believe you? And oh, wait, you were wrong. Also, if you could explain your reasons for your opinions, it would be helpful for me.Keterman wrote:Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.
What do you mean by this?Metalmarsh89 wrote: As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.
Enrique wrote:The French thing? Yeah, that's worth keeping in mind, I think. I haven't watched the movie so I don't know if it's really that obvious, but do the French have to be a baddie team? Because the roles we know make no mention of them at all. DF's role implies thre was only one Knight who said Ni, right? So why do the French have to be different? Are they the only "bad" faction in the movie worth having as a team? I jus tdon't get it. It's one thing to speculate, but to work on that assumption and just casually mention "the French team" like it's nothing. I really think MM is bad and will be voting for him.
His role just appeared in the OP, as I suspected from previous trends. However it's hard to say which way he was aligned, but since Brother Maynard is a member of King Arthur's court in the film, I'd be willing to bet that at least he is good.LoRab wrote:What do you mean by this?Metalmarsh89 wrote: As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.
What will we find out soon enough and how? And how do you know this?
Epignosis had the worst possible role,
“*squeaks angrily*”
Rabbit of Caerbannog - That rabbit is dynamite! - In addition to killing on odd nights on even nights you will search for Brother Maynard. If you find Brother Maynard you won't/can't kill him but will earn (1) instant kill to be used whenever you wish (day or night). LMS
How does ham and jam in Spamalot toast sound? It even include a reference to the film you starred in.GOD wrote:The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.
I will forgive you for saying I was an annoying distraction, nom nom nom.Metalmarsh89 wrote:How does ham and jam in Spamalot toast sound? It even include a reference to the film you starred in.GOD wrote:The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.
This definitely makes more sense now that it's explained in the context of the movie. Maybe I should get to watching it so that I can try and understand everything better. I don't remember exactly what you said in the original French post, but when Bullz(I think?) brought it up again a few pages ago it seemed like you knew for sure that there was a French team, which was a little odd. It makes much more sense to be a joke, though. Because if you were actually on a French baddie team, then why in the world would you say so in the thread?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think both of your pings are a bit pedantic, being as they are both about characters from the movie that I was hinting at. The French joke I made and expounded on was in reference to SVS's comment about people having civvie BTSC. I followed it up with, "Hey maybe they're French" with the suggestion that hey, maybe it's not the civvies. Essentially I was saying, "Hey, maybe they're bad." Also, with llama's comment and many other's support that this might be the ballsiest mafia ever, I think it's hypocritical to take my comment and say it's that of a baddie, when his more extreme suggestion is so accepted.Dana wrote:Metalmarsh - People have brought up a few good points about MM. The most suspicious things I’ve seen so far are the French thing and the Epi thing (was that MM? I think I might be getting confused. Also side note do we know for sure that Epi’s role was a bad one? I didn’t see it in the first post.) I am considering voting for MM, but it would be a half-hearted vote, so I’ll probably hold off until I look through everyone else.
As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.
Omg linki: I still have 3 other pages to read first, but this read from Dana needed addressing from me.
1. I didn't mean to imply LC was stupid if I did. I meant I am, for the kinds of shit i've said during this game. I like to think I have a patent on acknowledging other's arguments and thinking with in them regardless of it being on a false premiseLoRab wrote:Oy. I was set to catch up and vote this afternoon, and started to do the first of those, and then someone came into my office, and then by the time I was looking at a computer again it was too late. RIP MR. As I said earlier, I didn't see reason for suspicion of him. Having now read through the last day of the thread--nice bandwagon. I need to look back and see some of its starts and where the seeds were planted. I would have voted Made, or maybe MM. My feelings of neither of them has changed.
Neither, I don't think. I don't think he's appearing stupid, first of all. And he certainly isn't stupid. I think he's just being him. He knows what he's doing--he's smart as fuck and is one of the very few players who have been at this longer than I have who are still playing. I don't see why you think he's trying to appear stupid, though. I guess I don't get what you're saying.Made wrote:Don't play this game unless you REALLY know what your doing or REALLY don't.Long Con wrote:Even if it were as you described, I don't see me basing my team's voting plan on Llama's Opinion. I hear you're a smart guy, Llama, but I don't know that I would place that much faith in your opinion.
It's gotta be either genuine stupidity or calculated stupidity to work. Trust me I'm stupid.
Made wrote:Didn't mean to imply they were.S~V~S wrote:LC is far from stupid, Made.
Dana, any opinion on Bullz? Bea? Anyone?
I'm just saying it's hard to argue for those accusing you with out either being blissfully ignorant or have the situation awareness to you how far you can go to avoid suspicion, then the lack of common sense to go above and beyond that.It's called starting a bandwagon.Made wrote:Yo, SVS, is there a term for voting in hopes of getting others to vote someone? Because I've noticed that happens a lot.
Woah-linki kinda related? Basically mafia vote getting tactics.
Double related linki
And, why should we believe you? And oh, wait, you were wrong. Also, if you could explain your reasons for your opinions, it would be helpful for me.Keterman wrote:Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.
What do you mean by this?Metalmarsh89 wrote: As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.
What will we find out soon enough and how? And how do you know this?
Here is the original post I made. Here with the next 10 posts or so, is the brief discussion that followed.Dana wrote:This definitely makes more sense now that it's explained in the context of the movie. Maybe I should get to watching it so that I can try and understand everything better. I don't remember exactly what you said in the original French post, but when Bullz(I think?) brought it up again a few pages ago it seemed like you knew for sure that there was a French team, which was a little odd. It makes much more sense to be a joke, though. Because if you were actually on a French baddie team, then why in the world would you say so in the thread?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think both of your pings are a bit pedantic, being as they are both about characters from the movie that I was hinting at. The French joke I made and expounded on was in reference to SVS's comment about people having civvie BTSC. I followed it up with, "Hey maybe they're French" with the suggestion that hey, maybe it's not the civvies. Essentially I was saying, "Hey, maybe they're bad." Also, with llama's comment and many other's support that this might be the ballsiest mafia ever, I think it's hypocritical to take my comment and say it's that of a baddie, when his more extreme suggestion is so accepted.Dana wrote:Metalmarsh - People have brought up a few good points about MM. The most suspicious things I’ve seen so far are the French thing and the Epi thing (was that MM? I think I might be getting confused. Also side note do we know for sure that Epi’s role was a bad one? I didn’t see it in the first post.) I am considering voting for MM, but it would be a half-hearted vote, so I’ll probably hold off until I look through everyone else.
As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.
Omg linki: I still have 3 other pages to read first, but this read from Dana needed addressing from me.
Going to assume this wasn't directed towards me.LoRab wrote:Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."
How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?
linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.
And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.
Correct. It was to MM.Made wrote:Going to assume this wasn't directed towards me.LoRab wrote:Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."
How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?
linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.
And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.
Indies are wild cards, their win conditions sometimes align with civvies and sometimes don't. That's what I'm getting at. I thought we might find out, and fortunately God has told us.LoRab wrote:Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."
How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?
linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.
And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.
If they knew you weren't part of them, why wouldn't they vote for you? More civs dead is just better for them.Made wrote: What I think we need to determine is why reasons why mafia would want to vote Mr, Me, or another party entirely.
Not to steal an answer from MM here, but I feel I'm partially responsible for this since I asked about the rabbit. I think what he meant was that the role would be added to the first post soon and so we'd find out what it could do, hence the "how bad" part. Since he was a killer then we do probably need him dead to win.LoRab wrote:How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?
The Knight who says Ni might have a baddie partner who does the killing. Somebody killed Epi last night. Or there's a second mafia.Made wrote:hmm... I just realized something. If MP killed on even nights, and I'm correct in assuming there's only one mafia, then we might not have a kill tonight.
Uh....God has shared God's opinion. God does not necessarily have any more knowledge than the rest of us.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Indies are wild cards, their win conditions sometimes align with civvies and sometimes don't. That's what I'm getting at. I thought we might find out, and fortunately God has told us.LoRab wrote:Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."
How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?
linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.
And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.
Rabbit killed on odd nights, so he might of killed DF and just happened to get mafia. Regardless of goal, he might of been the only one to kill on odd nights? Iunno. I guess we'll find out soon enough.Enrique wrote:Made, I don't think that's the case, to be honest. Since DF died on night 1 and we know he was Mafia I just kinda took it for granted that there were at least two teams. And in a 25 player game, it only makes sense for balancing reasons. You made a case against MR, so you know at least some people had reasons to believe he was bad. Same with you. The baddies wouldn't need to be one huge unit all voting for the same player for this to go the way it did.
If they knew you weren't part of them, why wouldn't they vote for you? More civs dead is just better for them.Dana wrote:Made wrote: What I think we need to determine is why reasons why mafia would want to vote Mr, Me, or another party entirely.
So BWT here is what you said to me - my opinion of SVS and LC. I then re-printed the post I made last night clearly showing I was leaning good on SVS and LC, thus my thought was they were civ. That is my opinion of SVS and LC. I do not understand what you are asking me if it is not what you stated - my opinion of SVS and LC. Are you trying to ask me something else because my list is the answer to your question.birdwithteeth11 wrote: I'm not asking you to re-state suspicions. I'm asking you what you opinion is of LC and SVS. Statements like that make me think you're afraid of making a commitment, and make me more likely to think you're bad. But you might be able to clear up what my mind is thinking.
It's not like I'm saying for sure I'm going to vote for you. I just want to see you give a hard opinion on something. Because I don't feel like you have this game. At all.
Linki: Who is scum-aligned then, in your opinion?
Mister rearranger. I'm sorry guys I'm in two games and I haven't been keeping up all the way. i don't see how the crowd shifted to Mr Rearanger suddenly and we decided not to lynch Made when we I thought that we mostly agreed he needed to go,Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....
Boogs wrote:Mister rearranger. I'm sorry guys I'm in two games and I haven't been keeping up all the way. i don't see how the crowd shifted to Mr Rearanger suddenly and we decided not to lynch Made when we I thought that we mostly agreed he needed to go,Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....
Please acknowledge this boogs.Made wrote:Boogs wrote:Voting Made because nothing has changed my mind since yesterday. If he turns up bad, we may see who his teammates are.
Not even when I directly replied to your original reason for voting for me-That even a civvie would want to defend themself- nothing has changed?
I just want to make sure you acknowledge this post before In case i do die.
lol did you even read the thread? Keterman was pressuring people out of voting for Made, and pushing against MR.Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....
I still think it's two Mafias. 4-4 makes sense.Hedgeowl wrote:Since we now see that the Beast and the Rabbit were SKs who killed on even and odd nights, I think they balance each other out. There could still be just one mafia team, since the Rabbit killed odd nights and DF was killed NIght 1 and flipped bad. With 25 players and 2 as SKs, I assume a mafia team would have at least 3-4 members. If only 1 mafia, maybe even 5 people. So if we have two mafia teams of 4 players each that would leave 15 potential civ roles. Does that sound balanced enough for those who would know better than me?
Well clearly you're reading the game wrong then?Boogs wrote:Mister rearranger. I'm sorry guys I'm in two games and I haven't been keeping up all the way. i don't see how the crowd shifted to Mr Rearanger suddenly and we decided not to lynch Made when we I thought that we mostly agreed he needed to go,Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....
I knew that. I thought you might have a more in-depth explanation of why you felt they were civ. But apparently not.juliets wrote:So BWT here is what you said to me - my opinion of SVS and LC. I then re-printed the post I made last night clearly showing I was leaning good on SVS and LC, thus my thought was they were civ. That is my opinion of SVS and LC. I do not understand what you are asking me if it is not what you stated - my opinion of SVS and LC. Are you trying to ask me something else because my list is the answer to your question.birdwithteeth11 wrote: I'm not asking you to re-state suspicions. I'm asking you what you opinion is of LC and SVS. Statements like that make me think you're afraid of making a commitment, and make me more likely to think you're bad. But you might be able to clear up what my mind is thinking.
It's not like I'm saying for sure I'm going to vote for you. I just want to see you give a hard opinion on something. Because I don't feel like you have this game. At all.
Linki: Who is scum-aligned then, in your opinion?
Sorry bea! *Hugz* Hope tomorrow is better!bea wrote:Fuck.rip Mr.
This day went from.shitty to.a. damn dissaster and even Mafia.can't.go.right
I can't even cope.right.now.