The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:15 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:55 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:39 am

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Let’s just sort some shit.

Bullzeye - Bad vibes but he appears to be trying the correct townie amount to make things happen if that makes sense. I suspect this is a stylistic clash but it’s hard to tell having not played with him before. Slight townlean. Merits ISO.

ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance killed by the mafia. Suspected Sloonei in a way that gained him some flack so possible vig hit as well. (Dare I consider a sker on the Syndicate?) Slight scumlean but probably consensus town.

DFaraday - Null. Come on, DF.

Dom - Null. Come on, Dom.

DrWilgy - Null. Come on, Doc.

Infected_alien8_ - Bad vibes. Kinda ignored them cause he’s new to me. Scumlean. Merits ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance of being the mafia hit. Acting different from normal so there’s a chance he was a vig hit. Few players flat out said Jay was bad, though. Townread.

K-Ness - Need more. Slight townlean.

Kylemii - Null. Come on, Kyle.

Long Con - Feels right. I sense town effort, not scum agenda. Townread.

Lunalee - Her willingness to defend her hubby who is statistically unlikely to be her scum partner feels town motivated but I still need more from her. Townlean.

MacDougall - Initially felt very town for mindmeld and aggression but I’m wavering a bit. Townlean.

Marmot - Null. Come on, Marmot.

novaselinenever - Townlean. Votes poured in on him too quickly and his reaction seemed genuine.

nutella - Townlean. Very loose. A bit swingy but that’s Nutella sometimes.

Quin - Townread. It’s a secret why.

Simon - Null. Come on, Simon. Likely not w/w with Sloonei.

Sloonei - I’ve gone back and forth. Overall, there’s not much in the way of red flags but I consider myself pretty bad at reading Sloonei. I think I may have identified a scumSloonei tendency but I’m keeping it in my back pocket. Slight townlean.

speedchuck - Null. Hasn’t really said much besides naysaying some shit. Come on, Speed.

Soneji - Null. Come on, Soneji.

sprityo - Townlean. It’s a secret from everyone.

Turnip Head - Scumlean. I don’t see the town/neutral TH I’m used to seeing. For someone so excited about this game, he hasn’t been very present.

White - Null. Has this slot posted?



So I’d probably shoot an inactive if it were up to me.

Nice analysis Jack. I would bet there's at least one mafia among the low/lazy-posters. We should look into DFaraday, Dom, Dr. Wilgy, Alien, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Simon, Speedchuck, Soneji, and sprityo.

(ignoring White for now. they aren't even playing)

That is sort of a long list, but I think it's a good place to start. I'll add my own analyses later.

My post-to-availability is actually very high thank you very much.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:39 pm I really like that post from Sloonei more than I like the case against him. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the link you posted Sloonei.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

No ties please (don't listen to turnipface).

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:31 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Counter-counter wagon engaged!

I like the vote and would be willing to entertain it. But it seems people are not budging from the two established wagon at the moment. Care to expand on why this your vote?

Because his suspicion of you is circumstantial, and his treatment of you henceforth is based on that predetermined idea. This is based on only a few posts as I'm not fully caught up.

As for a Sloonei vote, I'm mildly interested. sprityo's concern was that you're pushing the narrative (which is not uncommon from you), but I haven't seen that in what I;ve read.

What I have not seen yet are reasons for Lunalee votes. Can anyone point me to those? Turnip Head, care to give a reason why I should force a tie with my vote?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:46 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:31 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Counter-counter wagon engaged!

I like the vote and would be willing to entertain it. But it seems people are not budging from the two established wagon at the moment. Care to expand on why this your vote?

Because his suspicion of you is circumstantial, and his treatment of you henceforth is based on that predetermined idea. This is based on only a few posts as I'm not fully caught up.

As for a Sloonei vote, I'm mildly interested. sprityo's concern was that you're pushing the narrative (which is not uncommon from you), but I haven't seen that in what I;ve read.

What I have not seen yet are reasons for Lunalee votes. Can anyone point me to those? Turnip Head, care to give a reason why I should force a tie with my vote?

a luna case
I also should look at her posts from this day phase, because I haven't loved her activity again.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:39 pm I really like that post from Sloonei more than I like the case against him. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the link you posted Sloonei.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

No ties please (don't listen to turnipface).

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:33 am

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Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:03 am So, looking through sprityo's ISO, he's being ridiculously friendly, and really sticking to the schtick so far. I don't like it, it might be designed to disarm us and view him as a friend. Is that far-fetched?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:56 pm Friend sloonei, I want to believe in you, but im also having a hard time understanding how you go from defending yourself, to ISO walls, to text walls defending yourself again. The ISOs just cluttered my head trying to read through and I didnt necessarily see any congruent pattern/reason to them. But it looks like your hard work has paid off, your persistence on the truth has prevailed! It would appear though that the three voting you havent returned/wont return. I should see why theyre voting you, although i remember you saying yourself "nutella has provided why shes voting me" or something close to that. People are also talking about Eloh being suspicious but i cant recall anything shes said to be present really! Can someone just point to me exactly the post where Eloh is looking bad?

Just, this whole post... what the hell even is it? Read it through, and decide how much says absolutely nothing. And, for a single paragraph, it really jumps around in context, despite the confusing "But it looks like your hard work has paid off, your persistence on the truth has prevailed!" Like, is this a joke that I just am not getting?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:56 am

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 pm I assumed Mac was just doing his usual antagonistic thing with me at first but now he seems to be sincerely riding the "everything Sloonei does is bad" train, I assume because it worked in Greece. But here it's all just fart butter and I wouldn't care about it one bit if it wasn't directed at me.

I'd prefer not to spend the rest of the phase defending myself though. Haters can hate. I'm a player, and players play.

There are several other people suspicious of you. You have been suspicious. Fart butter is a better description of your play than mine.

I refer only to your suspicion as fart butter. I’m not sure what its origins are or even what the main points are. You’ve just been highlighting posts of mine and saying “bad” because that worked in Ancient Greece. Nutella substantiated her read. LC did as well, even though I think part of that is a misunderstanding. Colin is bad. Jack’s a wildcard. You’re jusr dragging suspicion out of everything I say and it’s exhausting to try to address that at every point.

I stopped my analysis because i’m in school now and I have work to do and should also probably go to sleep at some point.

Nutella and LC substantiated their reads?

How much substantiation does a day 1 case require to not be fart butter?

Let's talk about Colin more because I agree with you.

Correction! mac has agreed with sloonei about colin and also has voiced a suspicion of eloh. although he just hasnt changed his vote either. how odd

This one gives me suspicious feelings. I feel like he should be whistling innocently at the end.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:46 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 pm k
i also don't like eloh this game rn

you'll be in agreement with others once youre caught up!

Uncomfortable push of the Elohcin wagon. I just don't like it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:05 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:52 am So, what are we dealing with here? Closed setup, and we don't even know which roles are on the bad team.

So, what is the method of catching someone on Day 1? Ask questions and hope someone slips up?

Create a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.

I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.

So in other words, "y'all get started and get the dirty work done and I will come back in here before the vote and make my assessment on which bandwagon I should jump on." Sounds bad to me. My first accusation is on YOU. Not only just this post. But, this post was given at12:54am. You then go on posting frequently until 3:08am. That is over 2 hours. And you have no time to ask questions, make comments, hurl accusations? There was no opportunity for that? Then you must have slept or something because you came back in the early pm posting exactly 9 hours later. At 1:48pm you talk about what you will do once you feel like actually playing the game. Again, you post frequently for 1 hour (1:48pm-2:42pm) not really saying anything. I do NOT like Jay in Mega-Man, I do not like him, Sam-I-Am.

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@Jack - I always post early on and often. I just don't often say much game related crap because I am too busy trying to keep up with the reading in the little bit of time I have to devote to mafia.

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out of 7 posts this must be the one! I will say it looks forced, yes. nothing about this seems to flow smoothly.

Too many words. That is how i would see it. It looks suspicious yes, but eloh has now dropped off the radar. Do you interpret that as intentional or not?

These reasons are so subjective and weak. And finishing with the leading question... just ugly. I'm done, and I'm voting sprityo. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:54 am Let’s start with chuck and jack I’ve got them both in my “to do later” pile. I also think bullseye a town lean? I should go see where you’re finding your reasoning for having him red

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:10 pm

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Reiterating the main point of my sprityo suspicion:

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sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:26 pm But for now I get the sense of a baddie making a concerted effort to spin a case against an established suspect (me). I do not get the sense that sprit has carefully considered my position in any of my posts. Instead it feels to me like he just seized onto a suspicion that already existed and is using that as his authority to suspect me.

Can anyone else see that, or am I just being too defenice here?

Here's the unlikely scenario:

Sloonei is town, he gets pursued by mac who is not someone to back down off his intuition. Sloonei isnt lynch, much to mac's dismay. then during the night, mac still paints him as someone bad, essentially a guarantee he's gonna try to lynch sloonei on day2. He even goes as far as to taunt sloonei to kill him. Mafia kills mac and waits for someone to attack sloonei.

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so would mafia kill mac to blame sloonei? or would sloonei kill mac to take the pressure and focus off himself?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

Please move past this.

You are asking me to play the game in ignorance of all my intuition and instincts?

Just kill me. Dr Manhattan taking out Rorschach style.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:27 am I can only think of myself, so I assumed Mac was killed to make me look bad.

This is part of a much longer post in which sprit responds to some previous accusations I had made. What I especially do not like in this post is his categorization of the hypothetical situation in which I would be town. He describes it as an " unlikely scenario", but the events he goes on to describe are A) not all that unusual and B) hardly involve me at all. My challenge to him was that he did not seem to be considering my side but was just pounding home an argument against me. This post only strengthened that feeling. His argument is about things going on around me, and he frames everything negatively against me. This is textbook tunneling. Given the context, in which I believed, and still believe, that I would have been a lynch priority for the mafia team, I take this to be more of a bad look than a good look for sprit.

I would like to hear more thoughts from him today. He has apparently held onto some of this suspicion despite Lunalee flipping scum. I don't recall him having much to say in other areas of the game.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:07 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:23 pm Good thoughts Sloon. Some I agree with, some I don't.

admittedly, I like it too. it's decent enough. Maybe you're not bad sloon. Just Maybe. MAYBE you made a careless post and I took it the wrong way.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:04 pm part of me wants you guys to try to lynch me, to ultimately look like idiots and I get the last laugh

but we're still down on active players so I shouldnt be lazy like that.

I dont think anyone is able to replace in after dying anyways

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:55 pm Fun fact: did you guys know I’ve only ever been night killed once? It was night one of blue velvet mafia

I’m just always lynched, it’s so weird. It’s like the inverse of JJJ

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:12 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:33 am Also I don’t think it was brought up, but Simon obviously wasn’t the vig. We could GUESS that Jack is the big. And he used his power (or was forced to use his power) on colin maybe?

Jack, GTH would you have killed Colin after day 1 given the chance?

What kinda question is this?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:18 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:34 am The obvious plan, the probable popular plan, will be to lynch Marmot. Any discussion should consider that as a starting point.

Yes, then we can decide whether we have anything else reasonable to go off. If not we start removing the inactives. Choices on who to lynch from the inactives will give us more to go off of.

Going after inactives sounds like the quickest way to lose lol what's wrong with you. We can do better.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:29 pm we got like an hour and a half until day start i think. I'm going to sleep its 130 am

I can honestly not tell what the results of tonight are gonna be. But if theres a baddy amongst the "active" players. I have a gut read for sloonei and jack rn. speedchuck has been quieter than i'd like to admit lately. and I THINK I can trust LC. probably. Dizzy is Cool in my book, bullzeye is probably town. TH is a root vegetable. I wish Dom were here.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:02 am What does the nightkill tell us besides what Quin said. The baddies have killed virtually everyone with a high post count. We know they’re not than likely have a syndicate regular on their team having targetted jay, then mac, Nutella, Sloonei.

The mafia team must be pretty cowardly if they’re hiding among the inactives. Purposefully trying to kill off everyone playing the game to easily secure lynched in their favor.

Either way we need to lynch marmot, in regards to Gemini man [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Does the Sloonei nightkill clear anyone/make them look better.

I was honestly expecting dizzy with how town they’ve been acting. Mafia had a perfect setup to keep Sloonei alive so why now?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:05 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:50 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:29 pm we got like an hour and a half until day start i think. I'm going to sleep its 130 am

I can honestly not tell what the results of tonight are gonna be. But if theres a baddy amongst the "active" players. I have a gut read for sloonei and jack rn. speedchuck has been quieter than i'd like to admit lately. and I THINK I can trust LC. probably. Dizzy is Cool in my book, bullzeye is probably town. TH is a root vegetable. I wish Dom were here.

What is your gut read on jack and sloonei

You’re right I should make it jack and Speedchuck.

It’s if I had to pick two of the active players to be bad. I think it’s one or both of you

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:13 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:12 am Hate that the Marmot lynch has become more about Gemini man than it is about his Luna interactions.

I think you’re right, I’m coming at this the wrong way

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:15 am We should do a GTH exercise, like in DFS if we get enough people in at once. That sounds like it’d be interesting

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:26 am Interesting Speedchuck isn’t in there Quin. Any reason?

I’m gonna iso him today. I have a bad feeling about him not being on my radar

Linki: Surely TH wouldn’t be that lowly? Then again he’s usually in here a lot more being goofy