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Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:33 pm**

so sprityo's claim was and always had been that he is a non cop info role which received ambiguous Intel about lunalee that he misinterpreted

did he ever reveal any other targets or info about other players that can be verified?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:34 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:29 pmDid you kill JJJ and Quinsly?

I havent killed anyone

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:35 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:33 pm so sprityo's claim was and always had been that he is a non cop info role which received ambiguous Intel about lunalee that he misinterpreted

did he ever reveal any other targets or info about other players that can be verified?

He says Long Con and Niju are 100% town I think.

Not verifiable yet.

linki: cool, me neither

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:33 pm so sprityo's claim was and always had been that he is a non cop info role which received ambiguous Intel about lunalee that he misinterpreted

did he ever reveal any other targets or info about other players that can be verified?

Kyle, I don't know that the first statement is totally true. He said this about his info:

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:01 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:51 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm Just to be clear to everyone, I’m not a cop role

This is simply me figuring out the game and putting my entire trust into these proclamations
Ok so you're not a cop but do you have some way besides your own thoughts to be 100% sure she is civ?
yes

That doesn't sound one bit ambiguous.

He did also say Long Con and nijuu were mafia targets but I don't know any way we could verify that.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:44 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 pm He did also say Long Con and nijuu were mafia targets but I don't know any way we could verify that.

I don't even know what that means. They aren't dead.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:50 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:44 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 pm He did also say Long Con and nijuu were mafia targets but I don't know any way we could verify that.
I don't even know what that means. They aren't dead.

I interpreted it as meaning they were targets of other powers (niju's vote was forced and LC was wounded and had a vote forced against him). And I was wrong, we can verify it because LC and ninja told us those things were true. The thing is, I'll look back but I think he verified AFTER they had already told us about their situations.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:58 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:44 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 pm He did also say Long Con and nijuu were mafia targets but I don't know any way we could verify that.
I don't even know what that means. They aren't dead.
I interpreted it as meaning they were targets of other powers (niju's vote was forced and LC was wounded and had a vote forced against him). And I was wrong, we can verify it because LC and ninja told us those things were true. The thing is, I'll look back but I think he verified AFTER they had already told us about their situations.

Also scum could totally self-target. More likely in Niju's case than LC's.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:03 pm**

Yeah sprit verified they were mafia targets after the actions happened, but his post reads like he had some independent verification:

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:35 pm I mean lynching me double confirms long con and nijuu as not mafia

so I’m not entirely against it.
In the same way you confirmed Luna to be not-mafia orrrrr
Nono, Luna was actually me misreading

Long con and nijuu were specifically mafia targets

He also said nijuu was town before she indicated she was forced to vote Long Con.

Anyway, sprityo said he would clear this all up after he gets off work so I'm going to wait for that.

linki

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:28 pm**

Beautiful. I, too, would happily take of my pants.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:04 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:12 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:16 pm Speed looks the worst, Kyle townslipped so he's out, and sprityo needs to completely roleclaim or I'll switch to him. It's time. No more coyness.
That’s one vote for roleclaim

Any more?

I’ll tell you guys once I’m off work or get the free time to make a larger post about it
Sounds like an "I need some time to think of something to claim so you can stop thinking I am mafia."

I’m sorry I work for Uncle Sam and have an irregular schedule

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:12 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:16 pm Speed looks the worst, Kyle townslipped so he's out, and sprityo needs to completely roleclaim or I'll switch to him. It's time. No more coyness.
That’s one vote for roleclaim

Any more?

I’ll tell you guys once I’m off work or get the free time to make a larger post about it
Sounds like an "I need some time to think of something to claim so you can stop thinking I am mafia."
I’m sorry I work for Uncle Sam and have an irregular schedule

I hope you're getting paid!

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm**

So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“
Night2: "should make Niju vote for whoever I give 2 automatic votes"
Night3: "So are we going to not lynch Luna for the third day?"
Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm**

That N3 looks like sig to me

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:17 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:12 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:16 pm Speed looks the worst, Kyle townslipped so he's out, and sprityo needs to completely roleclaim or I'll switch to him. It's time. No more coyness.
That’s one vote for roleclaim

Any more?

I’ll tell you guys once I’m off work or get the free time to make a larger post about it
Sounds like an "I need some time to think of something to claim so you can stop thinking I am mafia."
I’m sorry I work for Uncle Sam and have an irregular schedule

>work for Uncle Sam
>busy at work until later

Lynch all liars

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:17 pm**

Where's the piece on LC though?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:18 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“
Night2: "should make Niju vote for whoever I give 2 automatic votes"
Night3: "So are we going to not lynch Luna for the third day?"
Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

Oh god the wifom it hurts

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:18 pm**

>tfw military

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:18 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:17 pm Where's the piece on LC though?

Night 2

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:19 pm**

Bob is making irrational arguments and it upsets me

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:19 pm**

Ohhh yeah, that whoever is LC. Nice nice

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:19 pm Bob is making irrational arguments and it upsets me

The first thing totally wasn't a real statement.

The second though...

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay, speedchuck, nijuukyugou, Lunalee, juliets

Eloh voters on D4.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:22 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“
Night2: "should make Niju vote for whoever I give 2 automatic votes"
Night3: "So are we going to not lynch Luna for the third day?"
Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

Seems legit to me.

I'm the Conductor, the guy in my avatar. Town role. Flavor is that I want things to be dramatic. I get more powerful as more townies get lynched, to kinda balance things when town is doing poorly. So, right now, I'm vanilla. One more townie lynch and I'll start getting power. I max out at five civvy lynches, and I get stuff like a role check and a skipped night phase.

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

I believe Sprityo, I think. It's a really elaborate and sensible claim for him to make up. I'm voting Kylemii for posterity, but unless Kylemii is a 3P, I'm pretty sure we're stuck with a civvy lynch.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:23 pm**

Party pantsless with me, [mention]sprityo[/mention]. Party like it's my last night on earth.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:23 pm**

But it does make sense with your support of Luna. I think I'll buy the claim for now.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm**

[mention]sprityo[/mention] assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm**

lol Sprityo thought that the night 3 snippet was frustrated mafia, but instead it was just incredulous. Good times.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm**

(still have to investigate that of course)

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm @sprityo assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?

???

Sprityo's chat thing singlehandedly has cleared Niju and Long Con IMO. And now, as long as he lives, it will prevent the mafia from freely chatting.

Wait there's only one left.

I only get good powers after like 3-4 town lynches yo. Let's not get there.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:27 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me

Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.

I think the questions re speed is do we believe his claim, does believing his claim make him a civ, and would three mafia members all be on a counterwagon to Luna? If she was saved it would've been very helpful, but based off what we've seen the mafia have been bussing each other so I'm unsure there.

Food for though, do we think we've got a seemer role going on and/or the assassin makes everyone they kill flip mafia? Maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems like we've been way to lucky this game.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:28 pm**

On the other hand I've been confident since day 1 that Blooper is town, so what sprityo does in my mind add weight to his claim.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:29 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me
Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.

I think the questions re speed is do we believe his claim, does believing his claim make him a civ, and would three mafia members all be on a counterwagon to Luna? If she was saved it would've been very helpful, but based off what we've seen the mafia have been bussing each other so I'm unsure there.

Food for though, do we think we've got a seemer role going on and/or the assassin makes everyone they kill flip mafia? Maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems like we've been way to lucky this game.

EBWOP

Sprityo*

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:31 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:23 pm Party pantsless with me, @sprityo. Party like it's my last night on earth.

Fine I will truce you, but only this once

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm @sprityo assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?

Mafia have to be more vague in their btsc. Me outing myself essentially removes my purpose outside of my one shot power which I didn’t disclose

I’ll probably use it tonight in the off chance mafia decides to off me

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:33 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm @sprityo assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?
???

Sprityo's chat thing singlehandedly has cleared Niju and Long Con IMO. And now, as long as he lives, it will prevent the mafia from freely chatting.

Wait there's only one left.

I only get good powers after like 3-4 town lynches yo. Let's not get there.

To be fair if Kyle is civ you get it, otherwise if I get lynched it confirms LC and Nijuu as not mafia. (Again under the one mafia team assumption)

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:34 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm @sprityo assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?
Mafia have to be more vague in their btsc. Me outing myself essentially removes my purpose outside of my one shot power which I didn’t disclose

I’ll probably use it tonight in the off chance mafia decides to off me

Assuming there's still a mafia BTSC at all tho

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:35 pm**

So, epi warns in his opening post against role claims which we’ve done good in until now

I want to say there’s something of a soup kill maybe at play or something to really punish role claims

I don’t think Epi would specifically put a soup kill in though because I haven’t EVER seen a game on TheSyndicate with it as a mechanic

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:37 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:34 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:24 pm @sprityo assuming Kyle is also civ is there a reason we should keep you around over somebody who can have a "real" night power?
Mafia have to be more vague in their btsc. Me outing myself essentially removes my purpose outside of my one shot power which I didn’t disclose

I’ll probably use it tonight in the off chance mafia decides to off me
Assuming there's still a mafia BTSC at all tho

Well, I did receive my night 4 stuff this morning.

So either it was from day4/night4 and mafia planned to lynch eloh today or it was referencing yesterday (which would make more sense.)

With the knowledge of my night power, I believe the mafia have open btsc after death otherwise my role doesn’t seem too useful

Then again I don’t think the plan was to lose 4 mafia members before day 5

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:39 pm**

Now it really is up to Kyle if he wants to claim

If it’s believable enough I will be voting speed

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:40 pm**

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] do you see why I suspected you and jay on day2 now?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:41 pm**

Oh and night 2 that’s defintely DH talking lol

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:42 pm**

Also from the btsc we can make out 3 roles

One of those is Shang tsung

What about the other twos the force voter and the blocker? I forget what the other mafia roles were

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:44 pm**

Well I'm pretty confident in my vote for speed now lol.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:45 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 pm JaggedJimmyJay, speedchuck, nijuukyugou, Lunalee, juliets

Eloh voters on D4.

Based on this that is. Could be juliets but seems unlikely and even less likely niju.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:47 pm**

....wait no that totally could have been Jay or even Luna too huh. Just got to speed's claim and I'm second guessing. Damn lmao

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:48 pm**

Jay is the one who blocked nijuu I assume night 1

And Luna was the vote forcer so that solves that

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:53 pm**

Don't mind me idk what the hell I'm talking about. Looks like a town lynch then unfortunately but like speed says he is vanilla anyway since we're doing so well.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:54 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:35 pm So, epi warns in his opening post against role claims which we’ve done good in until now

I want to say there’s something of a soup kill maybe at play or something to really punish role claims

I don’t think Epi would specifically put a soup kill in though because I haven’t EVER seen a game on TheSyndicate with it as a mechanic

Oh. I didn't notice that.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:56 pm**

It couldn't have been Luna though. N4, Luna was dead.

If we trust that info, we also trust the info clearing Niju so it couldn't be her either.

JJJ, Speedchuck or Juliets. Doesn't sound like JJJ to me

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:01 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:56 pm It couldn't have been Luna though. N4, Luna was dead.

If we trust that info, we also trust the info clearing Niju so it couldn't be her either.

JJJ, Speedchuck or Juliets. Doesn't sound like JJJ to me

Well it's not me. I exposed Luna's wand which was part of the reason people voted for her.

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