Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:55 am
Nutella you got a wand from Enrique night 1. What did this wand say/do? You’ve claimed it informed you of the existence of Sloonei, is this all?
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Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:56 am
I have reasons to think a mass claim is anti town and that's all I'm saying on the matter. I am somewhat confident nutella has also picked it up and has the same feeling. She was pushing for roleclaims earlier and isn't any more.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:56 am
I’m going for 2. No lost wolves then maybeAlison wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:54 amwell I doubt that the wolves are helping town consciously. my current ideas are:
1) it's not intentional - giving town scraps of info is a side effect of some other ability they're using and is a downside to balance it. problem with this theory is that giving town info is a pretty big downside so the ability must be seriously powerful, yet we've seen nothing that helps scum to that extent.
2) the wolves are writing the notes themselves and putting misleading info into the notes.
3) some hidden mechanic is giving us the notes - there's nothing that says the events that happen this game have to be directly triggered by a player. many games have background mechanics and it wouldn't be completely nonsensical for a game like this to be "you have a bunch of redactions and mystery effects in your role PMs, but you get scraps of info to fill in the blanks a little better as time goes by"
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:57 am
If it's 2 then I would heavily suspect that there's 2 wolves in the punk chat and they wrote the lost wolf in because they were upset at how many people in the main thread got spewed town off LC/Vulgard and wanted to cast doubt on associative reads by bringing in the existence of a lost wolf.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:58 am
Also there's a mysterious mechanic that decides whether the punk roleblock goes through. If it's 3) and the notes were sent by a hidden mechanic then Occam's Razor says that both of those mechanics are linked somehow.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:59 am
Maybe the mafia can veto the roleblock in exchange for giving town info, or something. Sort of a mix of 1) and 3).
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:59 am
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 am
Let’s assume there is a lost wolf. We’ve assumed LW in Punk Chat. Would they join mafia chat when punk chat returned?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:04 am
All I received on N1 was the knowledge of the existence of the rolecard that was later revealed as Sloonei's.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:55 am Nutella you got a wand from Enrique night 1. What did this wand say/do? You’ve claimed it informed you of the existence of Sloonei, is this all?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:05 am
hmmmAlison wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:57 am If it's 2 then I would heavily suspect that there's 2 wolves in the punk chat and they wrote the lost wolf in because they were upset at how many people in the main thread got spewed town off LC/Vulgard and wanted to cast doubt on associative reads by bringing in the existence of a lost wolf.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:05 am
So somebody’s lying
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:05 am
Punk chat targeted Poison n1, right
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:06 am
I mean FG's flipped role was at least part if not all of the mechanic regarding the rb, or at least that seems to be the consensus interpretation
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:06 am
maybeTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 am Let’s assume there is a lost wolf. We’ve assumed LW in Punk Chat. Would they join mafia chat when punk chat returned?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:09 am
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:11 am
I guess? It feels instinctively weird for nanook to add a roleblock, and then have one player in the entire game who's immune to that roleblock, and then go and be like "YOUR ROLEBLOCK MAY NOT WORK FOR MYSTERIOUS REASONS", but I guess it's not beyond nanook
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:11 am
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:15 am
Why would Nutella not shoot Alison though it’s pretty easy
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:15 am
Oh. Duh.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:16 am
That scares me so much. Doesn’t explain why Nutella claimed the knowledge. I think claiming the knowledge is town.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:16 am
I don't want to lynch TSP anymore, that's true. Occam's Razor suggests he was the target of the nightkill, and therefore a reasonable assumption to be town, or at least not the person who performed the nightkill
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:17 am
sorry, just a wider mafia culture thing you probably haven't encountered before, but it's sort of a meme/fairly common thing to fakeclaim masons with someone as a way of stating a confident townread, that's all I was doing.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:17 am
Assuming he's not lying about the bulletproof of course. It is actually a little odd that he has two abilities. Did you always have both TSP? Also, what exactly does your role entail?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:23 am
You know what else is good ol' fun mafia culture?
Rainbow lists!!!
Spoiler: show
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:28 am
I think they fit together in theme— I’m a tough guy. At the beginning of the game I received an order and could choose whether to carry it out, then when both of my handlers were dead (the end of day 1). I could choose my orders.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:29 am
....bro......that really fucking sounds like a lost wolf...... .lmaoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:28 amI think they fit together in theme— I’m a tough guy. At the beginning of the game I received an order and could choose whether to carry it out, then when both of my handlers were dead (the end of day 1). I could choose my orders.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:32 am
Nutella strongly doubting the “roles were distributed randomly” theme and going instead with the “the mafia team had a specific set of roles designed in coordination with a lost wolf in the setup, breaking multiple of the stated rules, and the only person who knew this decided to claim it”
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:33 am
so LC and Vulgard, two wolves who died on D1, were TSP's "handlers"
or LC's thing passed on to Vul anyway, and that included/was related to being one of the "right people" I could shoot
except I continued to have "right people" after that, while TSP is claiming to have no more handlers
but maybe TSP is one now, whether he's a lost wolf or an unwitting lackey that's somehow town?
but I know Alison is one as well and idk what that would mean
maybe I'm reading too much into things
or LC's thing passed on to Vul anyway, and that included/was related to being one of the "right people" I could shoot
except I continued to have "right people" after that, while TSP is claiming to have no more handlers
but maybe TSP is one now, whether he's a lost wolf or an unwitting lackey that's somehow town?
but I know Alison is one as well and idk what that would mean
maybe I'm reading too much into things
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:33 am
Though to be fair in my last game I claimed mafia
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:34 am
whatTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:32 am Nutella strongly doubting the “roles were distributed randomly” theme and going instead with the “the mafia team had a specific set of roles designed in coordination with a lost wolf in the setup, breaking multiple of the stated rules, and the only person who knew this decided to claim it”
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:34 am
god this game is confusing
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am
Nanook this is more confusing than philo
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am
Treat this game like philo, chop the day vig
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am
Things make a lot more sense if Marmot is a wolf btw
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:36 am
If Marmot is a wolf, everything actually works
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:36 am
pls no
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:36 am
?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:37 am
What is an order?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:37 am
yeah I'm coming around to marmot being likely wolf. I think Alison is probably just right it's TL/marmot....if I'm to trust you which is still a bit of a hangup but yeah I've been whittling down the possible worlds and arriving more or less there
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:38 am
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:38 am
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:39 am
I'm still very confused. What does that mean?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am
I choose a player and I choose lethal or non lethal and something happens
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am
That’s all
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am
Guys, lynch nutella, I saw her yeeting with the devil
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:42 am
Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 am
and? were these the same actions that took people out of thread and gave sloonei the note?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am I choose a player and I choose lethal or non lethal and something happens
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 am
is that why you thought you killed sloonei?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:44 am
I took Alison out of the thread. I’m inclined to say I didn’t give Sloonei the note because it would mean Marmot is lying. But Marmot could be lying. If Marmot is lying, I probably gave Sloonei the note.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 amand? were these the same actions that took people out of thread and gave sloonei the note?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am I choose a player and I choose lethal or non lethal and something happens
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:44 am
No, but I once bet him a fiddle of gold for my soul, and won.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:42 am Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight