Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:03 am
No trolls DK, just cold hard troofs
I rarely understand jokes, sarcasm and idioms, and i rarely succeed when trying to use these, treat me like i am idiot or 5 y o. In this way you would refrain for saying silly things i hopestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:59 ami'm just joking, i don't think that's why youre voting me
i certainly dont see you as an idiot, but i'll be more careful about saying flippant things that can be misinterpreted. sorry for the confusion!Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 amI rarely understand jokes, sarcasm and idioms, and i rarely succeed when trying to use these, treat me like i am idiot or 5 y o. In this way you would refrain for saying silly things i hopestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:59 ami'm just joking, i don't think that's why youre voting me
Thanks, that will be a real help for mestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:06 ami certainly dont see you as an idiot, but i'll be more careful about saying flippant things that can be misinterpreted. sorry for the confusion!Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 amI rarely understand jokes, sarcasm and idioms, and i rarely succeed when trying to use these, treat me like i am idiot or 5 y o. In this way you would refrain for saying silly things i hopestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:59 ami'm just joking, i don't think that's why youre voting me
I don’t think LC was a bus, or if it was it was an accidental bus thst wasn’t suppose to go as far as it has. SPF returning to it makes me think it’s more likely he’s bad, but if I didn’t look at the poll and where they’ve been/ are going I’d be very unlikely to vote himAlison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:47 amWagonomics says LC is mafia. You personally think I am mafia but can't get traction on me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:45 amI got to LC backwards. He went from PoE to PoE /w wagonomics then back to PoE as his wagon fully evaporated.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:33 am Concern for/about @Made:
Current suspicions seem centralized on people who were early consensus suspects (Long Con, Michelle) — noted resistance to moving on from those reads
Other suspicions were on players in the middling area of consensus reads (JJJ, SPF, Omega) — folks that you can justify pushing without upsetting the momentum of the thread.
I am concerned that if the consensus is somewhere in the ballpark of correct, this group of suspects is almost where you must be as a mafioso.
I also spent like full brain power pushing Alison and it made my head hurt. I’m not doing that again until other folks want to look into her too.
I push wagons I expect to be able to push off a cliff. If civvies are leading the way, momentum is where we want to go nyways
Which of us do you think you are more likely to be wrong on, or do you think it's a bus?
What do you mean scum would be dunking on Michelle? She's copping a ton of heat?
Im dumb pls explainerinoMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
Okay i think “threadspewed” has jumped the shark
I take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
That's why I love it so much.
this doesn't apply to grogu at all?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
i think it's possible he just like, had that thought and didn't necessarily match it up to the actual voters. like i have those sorts of ideas about wagons sometimes without taking the time to think through them to that detailed logical extentMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
I consider her the least towny player in the game right now and most certainly the scummiest player who has been pushed the least. The absence of any concerted effort to push her = an absence of effort to mislynch her. If she were town there would be scummy people pushing onto her but I see literally none.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amIm dumb pls explainerinoMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
Nah you're right it kinda does but I will defend my incorrect position anyway and see that Grogu may not have votes but the anti Grogu sentiment is fierce. Most people are treating him like a foregone conclusion chop. The lack of votes on him can easily just be the mafia waiting for town to coalesce there and just not wanting to initiate proceedings (they are only 3 in number after all).staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:41 amthis doesn't apply to grogu at all?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
hmmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 amI consider her the least towny player in the game right now and most certainly the scummiest player who has been pushed the least. The absence of any concerted effort to push her = an absence of effort to mislynch her. If she were town there would be scummy people pushing onto her but I see literally none.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amIm dumb pls explainerinoMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
who is pushing on grogu? to memory, i'm the only person here that's brought up grogu's name as a possibility for a d1 chop. that's why i think the "scum would be dunking on them right now" mindset may apply to himMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 am Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
Nah you're not allowed to scumread me sorry. Permission denied.
I mean I would wager that since Grogu's entry, Grogu has been referred to as scum or POE at least once on every page by up to 50% of the playerlist at least. It's just been done in a dismissive fashion.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amwho is pushing on grogu? to memory, i'm the only person here that's brought up grogu's name as a possibility for a d1 chop. that's why i think the "scum would be dunking on them right now" mindset may apply to himMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 am Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amNah you're right it kinda does but I will defend my incorrect position anyway and see that Grogu may not have votes but the anti Grogu sentiment is fierce. Most people are treating him like a foregone conclusion chop. The lack of votes on him can easily just be the mafia waiting for town to coalesce there and just not wanting to initiate proceedings (they are only 3 in number after all).staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:41 amthis doesn't apply to grogu at all?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amwho is pushing on grogu? to memory, i'm the only person here that's brought up grogu's name as a possibility for a d1 chop. that's why i think the "scum would be dunking on them right now" mindset may apply to himMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 am Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
it's possible that DoO is town that hasn't been pushed on by opportunistic mafia because the mafia is already opportunistically pushing on someone elseMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:46 amI mean I would wager that since Grogu's entry, Grogu has been referred to as scum or POE at least once on every page by up to 50% of the playerlist at least. It's just been done in a dismissive fashion.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amwho is pushing on grogu? to memory, i'm the only person here that's brought up grogu's name as a possibility for a d1 chop. that's why i think the "scum would be dunking on them right now" mindset may apply to himMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 am Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
DoO is being handled differently.
It would be fine, weaksauce, but fine, of him to say it's sus the LC votes vanished. But to say it looks good for Ellie is red flags.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:42 ami think it's possible he just like, had that thought and didn't necessarily match it up to the actual voters. like i have those sorts of ideas about wagons sometimes without taking the time to think through them to that detailed logical extentMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
Tempted to sheep but also why?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amhmmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 amI consider her the least towny player in the game right now and most certainly the scummiest player who has been pushed the least. The absence of any concerted effort to push her = an absence of effort to mislynch her. If she were town there would be scummy people pushing onto her but I see literally none.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amIm dumb pls explainerinoMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
ok i guess i follow
but have doom as townlean so meh
*gestures at the person you're voting for*staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:48 amit's possible that DoO is town that hasn't been pushed on by opportunistic mafia because the mafia is already opportunistically pushing on someone elseMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:46 amI mean I would wager that since Grogu's entry, Grogu has been referred to as scum or POE at least once on every page by up to 50% of the playerlist at least. It's just been done in a dismissive fashion.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amwho is pushing on grogu? to memory, i'm the only person here that's brought up grogu's name as a possibility for a d1 chop. that's why i think the "scum would be dunking on them right now" mindset may apply to himMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 am Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
DoO is being handled differently.
but gth i don't actually know who that would be
I have an easy gambit: bake LC today and if he flips town quick-bake me tomorrow, if he's mafia everyone is happy. I dont think there's much risk there for town.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
idk i think it's reasonable to get to that conclusion (ie scum directing toward a counterwagon to save lc, thus the cw is town)MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:49 amIt would be fine, weaksauce, but fine, of him to say it's sus the LC votes vanished. But to say it looks good for Ellie is red flags.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:42 ami think it's possible he just like, had that thought and didn't necessarily match it up to the actual voters. like i have those sorts of ideas about wagons sometimes without taking the time to think through them to that detailed logical extentMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
the post that Alison keeps pointing to as one scum probably wouldn't make, along with some others from around the same time period, felt genuineMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:50 amTempted to sheep but also why?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:44 amhmmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:43 amI consider her the least towny player in the game right now and most certainly the scummiest player who has been pushed the least. The absence of any concerted effort to push her = an absence of effort to mislynch her. If she were town there would be scummy people pushing onto her but I see literally none.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amIm dumb pls explainerinoMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:38 am That "scum would be dunking on" read only applies to one player accurately in this game and it's DaughterOfOmega.
Meanwhile we have scummy people pushing on LC, SPF and Grogu. These are players who I would make the inverse read on at this time. Maybe Grogu as a stretch because that's the kinda slot a teammate would see and aw hell naw distance from essentially immediately.
ok i guess i follow
but have doom as townlean so meh
Okay then I'll settle with his analysis is very wrong because the only person who moved from LC to Ellie is me and I am town.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:51 amidk i think it's reasonable to get to that conclusion (ie scum directing toward a counterwagon to save lc, thus the cw is town)MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:49 amIt would be fine, weaksauce, but fine, of him to say it's sus the LC votes vanished. But to say it looks good for Ellie is red flags.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:42 ami think it's possible he just like, had that thought and didn't necessarily match it up to the actual voters. like i have those sorts of ideas about wagons sometimes without taking the time to think through them to that detailed logical extentMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
ooohhh i do not like this postEllieDelight wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:51 amI have an easy gambit: bake LC today and if he flips town quick-bake me tomorrow, if he's mafia everyone is happy. I dont think there's much risk there for town.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 amI take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.
Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.
And you should be happy with this unless youre partnered with LC, but like, people werent saying that at the beginning of the game were they?
I can understand only the town comparisonJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:51 am Town Omega = Martin
Mafia Omega = Russtifinko
this post may be meaningless to 95% of you, but i’m framing a possible player archetype