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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:05 pm
by Gavial
OMFG kill me scum this game is pissy

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:05 pm
by Gavial
For me

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:07 pm
by Gavial
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:07 pm
by Gavial
:mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia: :mafia:

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:08 pm
by Gavial
Gavial (-) You have been Blackmailed.
Shut Up!

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:10 pm
by Gavial
Not Everyone is town, scum exist this isn’t monopoly.

Shut the fuck up Gavial your fuckin monopoly.

Ok.

Read the fuckin paper.

“You are Blackmailed”

That means you shut your mouth Gavial and go run away.
Can I redirect the scum kill to me?
Shut it!
Ok :(

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:11 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
k that ones funny

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:33 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Falcon dies, he was VT. Bo was shot and also flips VT.

Nothing can stop the mafia from reaching parity, so the team of HK, Sean, and Urist wins.

@dunya, playing the third party Beelzebub monkeys paw wish granter, does not achieve her wincon

The town loses

The only thing I'm going to say about this--doom was modkilled for making a cross game read. Joke or serious, its in the rules that you can't do that. Normally I allow discussion about modkills, for likely obvious reasons I had to adjust my rules not to in this specific case. Please do not discuss this in post, for the same reasons it couldn't be discussed during the game. Thanks.

Please keep post game civil and friendly, thank you in advance

@Esooa
@Sloonei
@DaughterOfOmega
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@TonyStarkPrime
@Gavial
@BoKnows
@Samusamu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Urist
@Seanzie

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:34 pm
by Urist
Sorry dunya, you shouldn't have tried to scumside :(

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:35 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:36 pm
by falcon45ca
GG Maf, thanks for the host @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:37 pm
by Seanzie
Good game all!

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:37 pm
by Samusamu
Well, almost the urist push wasnt genuine.

🌚 Congrats mafia.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:37 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Dunia's rolecard:
You can't post in thread. Every day/night cycle you can invite a player to chat to. A cycle is d1/n1, d2/n2, etc etc. There are a few limits to your gift giving abiities--you can't fundamentally alter the structure of the game (i.e., can't make days last 9 hours, can't change a players alignment, that kind of thing). You can't grant more than one kill per cycle, and you can't grant a game ending kill. That sort of thing. You win if half or more players left alive after endgame have accepted a bargain from you (i.e., f3 and one person has accepted a bargain from you, if they live you win). You can win with either alignment. You can set conditions for your bargains, and those conditions are binding once the player has agreed to them. For example, if you agree to give a player a cop check if they vote for a specific player that day, if they agree to the deal they will be forced to vote that player if they take the deal. You on the other hand are not bound entirely by your agreements--for example, if you agree to give someone a cop check, you can secretly make it a role cop instead of an alignment cop. There are some limits on this, you don't have to make it literally what you promised but it does have to remain similar.

I think that pretty much covers it? Lemme know if you have any questions, and tell me who you want to chat with D1/N1
LC and HK had very similar PRs, everyone else was a VT or goon.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:37 pm
by Urist
This is the post where i acknowledge that the setup is really difficult for town and that the modkill basically made it impossible.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:40 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
This setup probably needed a smaller scum team and there probably should've been more limits on what could be given out, or at least the duration of the gift.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Wel, I got sean

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:42 pm
by hollowkatt
GG Sean GG Urist! Glad to see the two of you bring it home.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:42 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Should have gotten there on urist for claiming a shot on Sloonei but literally as I was typing up the post I made it in line for chicken tenders

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:44 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:42 pm Should have gotten there on urist for claiming a shot on Sloonei but literally as I was typing up the post I made it in line for chicken tenders
I'm happy that you got your chicken tenders.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:44 pm
by Samusamu
I've been treated by urist reaction, but at that point the only one doing reasonings was seanzie, so difficult to work with the rest of the towns.

So its normal that we lost.

Sorry to the other towns for my d1 eod i was hurry and didnt expect hk being scum.

Next time i promise to be more constant, and little by little improve my english skills it is still frustrating to no express myself how i use to do.

See ya in another game.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:46 pm
by BoKnows
GG thanks for hosting @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:46 pm
by BoKnows
Great job @Urist @hollowkatt @Seanzie

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:48 pm
by Samusamu
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:41 pm Wel, I got sean
You got nothing dude, its difficult to nearly impossible to read you or work with u as town.

The same to gavial, you guys should know that your playstyle Is hard.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:49 pm
by Urist
Chalk another one up for team "d1 scum death equals town loss"

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:50 pm
by hollowkatt
Thank you Nanook, this setup is super interesting! I agree, town was in a rough spot early, and with the deals the devil was making it was hard to overcome.
Also also, I tried really really hard NOT to spew townies town and wolves wolf. Including that reads list where I listed 5 townies and everyone else was POE.
I knew someone would go looking for that once I flipped.
As the game went longer it would look more and more like I hadn't listed any wolves in there, so it was a risk for sure.

GG Townies

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:50 pm Thank you Nanook, this setup is super interesting! I agree, town was in a rough spot early, and with the deals the devil was making it was hard to overcome.
Also also, I tried really really hard NOT to spew townies town and wolves wolf. Including that reads list where I listed 5 townies and everyone else was POE.
I knew someone would go looking for that once I flipped.
As the game went longer it would look more and more like I hadn't listed any wolves in there, so it was a risk for sure.

GG Townies
The list threw me off :P

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nice work to the wolf team

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:42 pm Should have gotten there on urist for claiming a shot on Sloonei but literally as I was typing up the post I made it in line for chicken tenders
I'm happy that you got your chicken tenders.
mmm chicken tenders

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:12 pm
by Gavial
WTF

NOOOOOOOOOO
That is??? What?!?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:13 pm
by Gavial
Sean and Urist!!!???

No!?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
by Esooa
ggs

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
by Gavial
I’m done.


Never again am I TRing anyone

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:15 pm
by Gavial
2 players being pushed LC and Marmot.
Say Urist is town pushing
Sean was the CW, Sean lock Town me day 1.


What.
The.
Fuck.


I don’t believe this.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:15 pm
by Gavial
These were like the Townist players that weren’t even ever gonna be a wagon.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:15 pm
by Gavial
After HW

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm
by Marmot
I'm ashamed of you town.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:18 pm
by Marmot
Marmot wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm I'm ashamed of you town.

JK, love you all!! Great game mafiers, even if hk goes over on Day 1, we had our work cut out for us.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:18 pm
by Gavial
Honestly I should have questioned Sean’s town read on me and BK should have questioned Urist’s town read on him.

They had pockets.
Damn.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:19 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm I'm ashamed of you town.
I’m ashamed of myself

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:30 pm
by hollowkatt
Gavial wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:13 pm Sean and Urist!!!???

No!?
yeeesssss

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:31 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
Unironically the modkill cost us the game, pretty sure I lead the game into a different place

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:32 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
My bad then, need to remember rules better, used to like 1000s of older games and rulesets

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:47 pm
by BoKnows
Marmot wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm I'm ashamed of you town.
I wanted to avenge you

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:50 pm
by Samusamu
BoKnows wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:47 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm I'm ashamed of you town.
I wanted to avenge you
Xd

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:57 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
This is all my fault!

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 pm
by Long Con
I guess I was killed because I had Urist as my top scumread?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:24 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I wrote up 8 lengthy wall posts of hollowkatt interaction analyses with the first 8 players in the alphabet during my night phase. Both mafia were at the end of the alphabet so I didn't get to them. Based on where my mind was at in the moment, I think I'd have been on to Urist but wrong about Seanzie.

Seanzie's accusation that hollowkatt slipped alongside Esooa was one of the more effective single distancing posts I've ever seen, honestly. That post could have won the game by itself. Bravo.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 pm I guess I was killed because I had Urist as my top scumread?
PR read i believe

Re: Beelzebub The Benign scum win

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:39 pm
by Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:32 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 pm I guess I was killed because I had Urist as my top scumread?
PR read i believe
^this. We were guessing there was a town version of the same PR that HK was, and when you asked if anyone had been in contact with Dunya, it kind of tipped us off.