Homestar Runner [Day 13]

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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 5]

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Mongoose wrote: CBK: Are you a killer of bunnies that's a captain OR a bunny who is a captain and a killer?
:) I am the nickname Sawyer gave Ben for supposedly killing a bunny. Basically, I just love Ben. :D But I have no idea which people in this game are LOST fans.
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Captain Bunny Killer wrote:
Mongoose wrote: CBK: Are you a killer of bunnies that's a captain OR a bunny who is a captain and a killer?
:) I am the nickname Sawyer gave Ben for supposedly killing a bunny. Basically, I just love Ben. :D But I have no idea which people in this game are LOST fans.
everyone

Well maybe not everyone, but close.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 5]

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thellama73 wrote:I've got a few people I'm looking at. The daylight should reveal more of the direction I want to go.
Meaning you have something to do in the night first?
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Captain Bunny Killer wrote:
Mongoose wrote: CBK: Are you a killer of bunnies that's a captain OR a bunny who is a captain and a killer?
:) I am the nickname Sawyer gave Ben for supposedly killing a bunny. Basically, I just love Ben. :D But I have no idea which people in this game are LOST fans.
Ohhhh yes. I haven't seen Lost in so long. Thanks for the response!
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Ok, back at my looking back again... Am I missing something, or have the Teen Girls failed to kill twice? It appears they didn't kill anyone on night 2 either. Is that correct? Someone, I think Alex, asked me a while back what I think. All I can say is that it seems unlikely that they failed by targeting someone who couldn't die TWICE. Thoughts?
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Dom wrote:I ship it so hard, it's not even funny.

Jensen is like my dream guy
Misha is also my dream guy
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I guess that's understandable. My sister started watching the show because she thinks Jared is cute. I don't have a crush on either but I'm firmly within the Jensen camp.
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I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
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Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:^ I did.

And our first game was Masters of the Universe
I played that?
Gosh...I hope so now. :|

btw Dom who is in your avatar?
Dean Winchester from Supernatural. Basically, I'm in love. :D

*the flower crown is photoshopped on*
I'm so glad you said that, I'd been wondering why I was forgetting the clearly hilarious episode in which Dean wore a crown made of flowers!
MovingPictures07 wrote: This makes me believe that those pushing that Trogdor was dead really were stretching, big time. Trogdor is definitely alive. I have trouble believing devin was him.
Agreed, there's no chance Trogdor is dead in my mind. He's probably just inactive. Which makes me wonder, who has disappeared since night 2?
MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I had a thought I didn't think I should share, that maybe he was Trogdor and killed himself by accident, only for Daisy to realise he couldn't actually do that. It's a possibility but I don't think I'd be comfortable lynching someone on that logic. I don't personally have much of a read on him anyway.
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Mongoose wrote: CBK: Are you a killer of bunnies that's a captain OR a bunny who is a captain and a killer?
:) I am the nickname Sawyer gave Ben for supposedly killing a bunny. Basically, I just love Ben. :D But I have no idea which people in this game are LOST fans.
I can see at least 8 names on the poll who are/were. A lot of mafia players around here got started on a Lost forum so there's a good amount of us around!
Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Ok, back at my looking back again... Am I missing something, or have the Teen Girls failed to kill twice? It appears they didn't kill anyone on night 2 either. Is that correct? Someone, I think Alex, asked me a while back what I think. All I can say is that it seems unlikely that they failed by targeting someone who couldn't die TWICE. Thoughts?
It's possible that the killer was blocked or their target was protected as well. It could also be that they aren't sending in kills, but most players seem to be active so you'd think at least one member of the team would be around to do it.
Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I think Llama is civ but I'm not willing to bet my life on it. It's still possible he's bad I suppose and either of them could be the Cheerleader. Also it could be neither of them, one lynch survival doesn't make you unlynchable.
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Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Bullzeye wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I had a thought I didn't think I should share, that maybe he was Trogdor and killed himself by accident, only for Daisy to realise he couldn't actually do that. It's a possibility but I don't think I'd be comfortable lynching someone on that logic. I don't personally have much of a read on him anyway.
I could see that being possible. But I would feel very uncomfortable lynching someone solely off a hosting error. I do think borok has said a lot of things that haven't been true about the game. I'm unsure as to whether it's because he's not paying enough attention or if it's because he's trying to sow the seeds of doubt.
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I am not picking a hut. I want to see what happens.
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birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I had a thought I didn't think I should share, that maybe he was Trogdor and killed himself by accident, only for Daisy to realise he couldn't actually do that. It's a possibility but I don't think I'd be comfortable lynching someone on that logic. I don't personally have much of a read on him anyway.
I could see that being possible. But I would feel very uncomfortable lynching someone solely off a hosting error. I do think borok has said a lot of things that haven't been true about the game. I'm unsure as to whether it's because he's not paying enough attention or if it's because he's trying to sow the seeds of doubt.
I think it more likely that Trog was blocked or Borrok was protected somehow and Daisy overlooked it.
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Snow Dog wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I had a thought I didn't think I should share, that maybe he was Trogdor and killed himself by accident, only for Daisy to realise he couldn't actually do that. It's a possibility but I don't think I'd be comfortable lynching someone on that logic. I don't personally have much of a read on him anyway.
I could see that being possible. But I would feel very uncomfortable lynching someone solely off a hosting error. I do think borok has said a lot of things that haven't been true about the game. I'm unsure as to whether it's because he's not paying enough attention or if it's because he's trying to sow the seeds of doubt.
I think it more likely that Trog was blocked or Borrok was protected somehow and Daisy overlooked it.
Exactly. Hence why I would need more evidence to go after Borok.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 5]

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borokkuei wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing teen girls doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do. :(
Is there a reason why you are particularly empathetic toward them, birthday wombat?
He's known to be sexually attracted to teen girls. Unfortunately they're very expensive in finalalnd.
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Snow Dog wrote:I am not picking a hut. I want to see what happens.
Wasn't it that you'll be automatically teleported to whichever hut trogdor chooses?

Incidentally I picked hut #3 (three).
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Also, I'm quite bad at evaluating people's ages.
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Vompatti wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I am not picking a hut. I want to see what happens.
Wasn't it that you'll be automatically teleported to whichever hut trogdor chooses?

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Interesting choice, Snow Dog. Are you confident that Trogdor will not send in a PM, or do you have some kind of protection, or do you just want to die?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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thellama73 wrote:Interesting choice, Snow Dog. Are you confident that Trogdor will not send in a PM, or do you have some kind of protection, or do you just want to die?
My lips are sealed.

Well.....my fingers won't type.
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On second thoughts I will pick Vompattis room. Nothing like good company (and he's nothing like good company)
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Snow Dog wrote:On second thoughts I will pick Vompattis room. Nothing like good company (and he's nothing like good company)
I'm in hut three as well! It's clearly where the cool people are.
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thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.
It's okay, I still got your back.

You guys: I'm not sure it's super wise to tell everyone what hut you are inside. Are you hoping there's safety in numbers?
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Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.
It's okay, I still got your back.

You guys: I'm not sure it's super wise to tell everyone what hut you are inside. Are you hoping there's safety in numbers?
That's 0k, come and join us.
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Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.
It's okay, I still got your back.

You guys: I'm not sure it's super wise to tell everyone what hut you are inside. Are you hoping there's safety in numbers?
Trogdor has already killed me once, I ain't afraid of no dragons! But seriously I don't think he's actually sending in PMs based on MR F's comments a while back so I'm not sure there's much danger. Plus are we even telling the truth? Maybe there's nobody in hut three and we're somehow coordinating a plan to make Troggles hit an empty hut.
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Darn it Bullzeye. The first rule of hut 3 is?
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Snow Dog wrote:Darn it Bullzeye. The first rule of hut 3 is?
No making tired references? :p
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Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Darn it Bullzeye. The first rule of hut 3 is?
No making tired references? :p
No...the first rule is eat up all your greens. :fiesta:
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Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.
I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.
It's okay, I still got your back.

You guys: I'm not sure it's super wise to tell everyone what hut you are inside. Are you hoping there's safety in numbers?
To be fair, it's impossible to tell if they are telling the truth.
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I'm actually in hut six. It's the VIP hut that only the awesome-est people are allowed in.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Leamiteo, I meant to ask, why do you think CBK is civvie?
Just a feeling really. I'm mostly judging her alignment my relationship with her in RL, however her posts seem genuinely thought out with a civvie mindset IMO.

CBK, you had better be good! :p
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Mongoose wrote:I had Kate pegged as Coach Z; no one has ever been jailed to date.
I think this is highly possible. :srsnod:

MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I suspected borokkuei earlier in the game. I read his posts as forced and false confusion mixed with flippant remarks to which he replied he was a flippant person. Baddie? I think there is a chance. What to think of his accidental death? Umm, I am unclear about what you mean...am I missing something?
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 5]

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Cool Tapes

Strongsad's poetry:

Gleam is likely bad
So says Strongsad

Vomps we should give a look
Unless you are a crook


Strongbox's email:

Yes, no, maybe…
I don’t know…
Can you please read my e-mail…

You're not the boss of Strongbad
You're not the boss of Strongbad
You're not the boss of Strongbad
And you're not dat cool

Life is unfair.........


Dear Strongbad,
What is a Mangosteen? What is an acai? Why do people keep putting these things in my smoothies, shampoo, and my lotion?
Sincerely,
Confused

Well Sindy, I think da mangosteen is a kind of lobster and acai is a traditional 3-pronged martial arts weapon predominant in the borrukei fighting style. It sound to me like you’ve gotten on da bad side of a crustaceous ninja hell bent on assassinating you during your daily health & beauty regime. I think your best course of action is to
LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU IT’S THE RED SHELLFISH NINJA!!!!

Bwaaaaa haa haa haa haaaaaaaaaa….

OK…just kidding…but you’ve gots to be on your guard at all times or else when you least expect it….DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!

Llama has been killed by Blue Laser.
It is now Day 6 and you have until the poll closes to lynch somebody, make it good and actually kill someone this time, sheesh.
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Oh llama. Adios!
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Interestingly no Dragon kill yet again.
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And I didn't pick a hut so.............
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Snow Dog wrote:Interestingly no Dragon kill yet again.
He hasn't killed since Borok died. I'm thinking Troggy-face is someone who hasn't been around very much or at all since night 2/day 3. Does that description actually fit any players though?
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Snow Dog wrote:And I didn't pick a hut so.............
So . . . ?
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Re: Homestar Runner Polls

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Poll ended at Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:36 pm

Day 5

A Person
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DisgruntledPorcupine (6) 5%
agleaminranks
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thellama73 (3), DFaraday (7), BigDamnHero (9), Bullzeye (10), MovingPictures07 (11), juliets (12), birdwithteeth11 (13), Leamiteo (14), Vompatti (15), Mongoose (18) 50%
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BigDamnHero
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birdwithteeth11
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Bullzeye
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borokkuei
0
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Captain Bunny Killer
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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agleaminranks (8) 5%
Dom
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Snow Dog (20) 5%
Juliets
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Leamiteo
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Matahari
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Matt F
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Matt F (4) 5%
MovingPictures07
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timmer (17), borokkuei (19) 10%
Snow Dog
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Dom (5) 5%
S~V~S
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Thellama73
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Captain Bunny Killer (16) 5%
Timmer
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Vompatti
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Bret Bretterson (host, dead, non)
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Spacedaisy (1), Epignosis (2) 10%
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Vompatti wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:And I didn't pick a hut so.............
So . . . ?
So Snow would have been in the hut Trog picked, and possibly died. Given there was no reference to a Trogdor kill it looks like he isn't sending his PMs or we have some really damn good blockers/protectors in this game.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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I can has rez please?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Interestingly no Dragon kill yet again.
He hasn't killed since Borok died. I'm thinking Troggy-face is someone who hasn't been around very much or at all since night 2/day 3. Does that description actually fit any players though?
Troggy could be laying low and being active in the forum. He could do this long enough to make us think he is dead and then start killing again. But I think there could be more at play here than meets the eye.

Doh Llama.

Daisy, were their missing PMs / how many missing PMs?
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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An addendum: I'm going to look through Llama's posts to see a) what he was talking about to make Blue Lasers want him dead and b) who might be framing him for the same.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Interestingly no Dragon kill yet again.
He hasn't killed since Borok died. I'm thinking Troggy-face is someone who hasn't been around very much or at all since night 2/day 3. Does that description actually fit any players though?
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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True, SVS has been incredibly absent.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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I can't believe you killed me, Blue Laser! I am really bitter about that.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Well damn. llama I was so sure you were good. RIP! :rip:
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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timmer wrote:True, SVS has been incredibly absent.
Yeah, that's strange...
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Wow, I sincerely hope my judgments of you were misguided. RIP llama, damn you blue laser!!! *shakes fist*

At this point, I'm convinced that Trogdor was probably killed. It's kinda hard to navigate this site on my phone, does anyone know who was killed the day after Trogdor made his last kill? I want to say it may have been Devin who died right after, but I could be mistaken...
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Post by borokkuei »

tfw someone finally died and the game can progress.

w00t

RIP if you were a civ, llama. I didn't have a read on you at all, but hopefully you were bad, considering you're dead now.
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Re: Homestar Runner [Day 6]

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Son of a BITCH. RIP llama. I am absolutely certain now that you were civvie.

Mongoose, interesting thoughts. However, I had someone else pegged as Coach Z. Think about how Devin said he knew he would survive one night and was dead the next. I'm pretty sure Devin was protecting and had not been able to jail until dead. Bubs has shown NO activity whatsoever and Devin gave me no reason to believe he was Bubs instead of Coach Z. That's just my take on the matter though.

Borokkuei, how could you have had no read on llama whatsoever?

Gleam, how was Trogdor killed? I don't think so. He is definitely still alive.

I find it very interesting Blue Laser has killed Devin and now llama, both players who I came to increasingly vouch as civvie more than anyone else. Apparently, Blue Laser is onto something.
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