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Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:41 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Seanzie wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:35 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
How so? Can you elaborate on this?
No

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:41 pm
by MartinGG99
Vulgard wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:38 pm Show me where Mac spewed IBA town? I haven't read any of IBA's posts.
its not so much that mac spewed IBA town

but rather IBA's handling of Mac during an issue over pre-game/other-game stuffs came in such a way that it wasn't straight-forward and didn't seem intentional w/ a wolfy mindset

I showed this moments earlier but you can look at like the first 25-30 posts of IBA's ISO and it should show that

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
by MartinGG99
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:41 pm
Vulgard wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:38 pm Show me where Mac spewed IBA town? I haven't read any of IBA's posts.
its not so much that mac spewed IBA town

but rather IBA's handling of Mac during an issue over pre-game/other-game stuffs came in such a way that it wasn't straight-forward and didn't seem intentional w/ a wolfy mindset

I showed this moments earlier but you can look at like the first 25-30 posts of IBA's ISO and it should show that
for w/w that is

Re: AtLA D1

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
by IBA
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:01 pm Some thoughts after ISO'ing the Luckbox voters:

jackofhearts2005 - Jack is being jack. I don't have strong feelings or thoughts on much of his posts given his typical style is to be laid-back (usually without much depth). Anyways, from what I could dig up, he was voting Luckbox because of this (link). He first voted Falcon, but much later (2-ish hours before EoD) moved on to Luckbox, probably due to vote wagons. I'm concerned though that he doesn't seem to initiate interaction with Falcon even after the storm event (for which Falcon was part of), and even interacted with me about the storm. Its like his vote on Falcon did nothing and he was completely fine with it, which I think is contradictory to what he said about himself and his reads in the past (link). Pending other my reads, I wouldn't mind this guy being the day 2 chop and would prefer it if nothing else.

butterscotchsundae - Butter hardly has any reads with substance in them. One of their reads felt scummy in particular (link), saying Ender is villagery and also they would fake-peek them. But why even mention that if you don't believe in fake-peeking and to also not mention why exactly Ender is villagery? It feels like a statement sprinkled in there specifically for seemingly towny tone and nothing else. Overall handling of Luckbox seems mildy okay to me for the limited time they spent here. I can't tell if its towny though given their reported history with Luck. I want to chop this person.

enderwiggin - I don't have enough leftover energy to ISO 300 posts. Will do D2 at some point assuming he doesn't create another 300 posts while I'm at it. watch him be the NK and I get 100 scumreads lol

guillotine - So let me get this one thing straight: Guilo thought Me/Luck/Butter were wolves (this has been rather consistent over the course of D1 to some degree), and has voted all of us at one point or another. I would think interactions between all three of us would have been not-w/w at some point. Especially between Luck/Butter give their public differences on d1. I don't really understand what Guilo is thinking, and honestly after trying to understand vague memes after vague memes with at most a sentence or two in them, I kinda want to reserve judgment for a day. Also saves me from a headache.

IBA - After reading full context of the interactions with Mac, I think this happened naturally enough for it to not be w/w with Mac. However, with this interaction by itself I wouldn't be surprised if this could be w/v given this involved strictly out-of-game and pre-game stuff so I'm not viewing it as towny for either. With the stuff on Luckbox, I'm inclined to see it as likely genuine. It was a simple TMI suspicion, but what sticks out to me is that this sort of attitude to luck is maintained (and echoed at least once later) while also stating once or twice as to whether Luck had a towny response (link). The whole handling of Luck feels a bit awkward (is that the right word?) and too rough for a wolf to simply fabricate for day 1 where wolves are generally under the least pressure. It just would be unnecessary to do. I don't think IBA is scum here.
Honestly this is just pure laziness, and I'm kind of insulted.

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?
Rolefishing?

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
by hollowkatt
Vulgard wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:38 pm Show me where Mac spewed IBA town? I haven't read any of IBA's posts.
read ibas posts

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Can we vote on the redcheck @IBA ??

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:43 pm
by IBA
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:41 pm
Vulgard wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:38 pm Show me where Mac spewed IBA town? I haven't read any of IBA's posts.
its not so much that mac spewed IBA town

but rather IBA's handling of Mac during an issue over pre-game/other-game stuffs came in such a way that it wasn't straight-forward and didn't seem intentional w/ a wolfy mindset

I showed this moments earlier but you can look at like the first 25-30 posts of IBA's ISO and it should show that
Eh I mean I did that with Nanook when we were wolves together at MU. I'm pretty big on keeping the IC and OOC distinct

Re: AtLA D1

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:43 pm
by hollowkatt
IBA wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:01 pm Some thoughts after ISO'ing the Luckbox voters:

jackofhearts2005 - Jack is being jack. I don't have strong feelings or thoughts on much of his posts given his typical style is to be laid-back (usually without much depth). Anyways, from what I could dig up, he was voting Luckbox because of this (link). He first voted Falcon, but much later (2-ish hours before EoD) moved on to Luckbox, probably due to vote wagons. I'm concerned though that he doesn't seem to initiate interaction with Falcon even after the storm event (for which Falcon was part of), and even interacted with me about the storm. Its like his vote on Falcon did nothing and he was completely fine with it, which I think is contradictory to what he said about himself and his reads in the past (link). Pending other my reads, I wouldn't mind this guy being the day 2 chop and would prefer it if nothing else.

butterscotchsundae - Butter hardly has any reads with substance in them. One of their reads felt scummy in particular (link), saying Ender is villagery and also they would fake-peek them. But why even mention that if you don't believe in fake-peeking and to also not mention why exactly Ender is villagery? It feels like a statement sprinkled in there specifically for seemingly towny tone and nothing else. Overall handling of Luckbox seems mildy okay to me for the limited time they spent here. I can't tell if its towny though given their reported history with Luck. I want to chop this person.

enderwiggin - I don't have enough leftover energy to ISO 300 posts. Will do D2 at some point assuming he doesn't create another 300 posts while I'm at it. watch him be the NK and I get 100 scumreads lol

guillotine - So let me get this one thing straight: Guilo thought Me/Luck/Butter were wolves (this has been rather consistent over the course of D1 to some degree), and has voted all of us at one point or another. I would think interactions between all three of us would have been not-w/w at some point. Especially between Luck/Butter give their public differences on d1. I don't really understand what Guilo is thinking, and honestly after trying to understand vague memes after vague memes with at most a sentence or two in them, I kinda want to reserve judgment for a day. Also saves me from a headache.

IBA - After reading full context of the interactions with Mac, I think this happened naturally enough for it to not be w/w with Mac. However, with this interaction by itself I wouldn't be surprised if this could be w/v given this involved strictly out-of-game and pre-game stuff so I'm not viewing it as towny for either. With the stuff on Luckbox, I'm inclined to see it as likely genuine. It was a simple TMI suspicion, but what sticks out to me is that this sort of attitude to luck is maintained (and echoed at least once later) while also stating once or twice as to whether Luck had a towny response (link). The whole handling of Luck feels a bit awkward (is that the right word?) and too rough for a wolf to simply fabricate for day 1 where wolves are generally under the least pressure. It just would be unnecessary to do. I don't think IBA is scum here.
Honestly this is just pure laziness, and I'm kind of insulted.

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine
now that's fucking spicy

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:43 pm
by IBA
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm Can we vote on the redcheck @IBA ??
I haven't caught up yet, there's an actual redcheck?

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:44 pm
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.

I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.

I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.
Dope. I’m obviously not w/w with Dana.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:46 pm
by IBA
Eh aight fine

[VOTE: Dana] aubergine

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:46 pm
by IBA
But we should kill Martin later

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
by Felicis
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?
Rolefishing?
Are you asking if I'm rolefishing, or if Grogu was when he claimed Aang?

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Vulgard wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:37 pm Oh, Dana is redchecked by NotAnAxehole? That makes a flipped wolf, a redchecked player, and a wolfy player all voting TSP during that EoD.

Unless TSP was being bussed for whatever reason (despite two villager alternatives existing), he should just be spewed V here and I shouldn't have to read any of his posts.
Agreed.

Free read on TSP is nice.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?
Rolefishing?
Are you asking if I'm rolefishing, or if Grogu was when he claimed Aang?
I mean, you don't need to play coy in order to get me to out this information, if you want to know, just ask.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm
by Felicis
[VOTE: VOTE: DANA] aubergine

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:51 pm
by IBA
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
Yeah also HK is giving me scum vibes. I feel strongly about murdering both of them. Not sure how many scum that leaves I can't be bothered to math.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:52 pm
by Vulgard
How is Martin scummier with a Mac wolf flip?

Also, I've read IBA's commentary on Mac, and I agree they probably aren't W/W. This type of argument would likely have been resolved in wolfchat, not in the main thread.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:53 pm
by MartinGG99
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
Axe I'm not sure if you're expecting me to say something to you

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm
by NotAnAxehole
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
Axe I'm not sure if you're expecting me to say something to you
I'm not. Response to IBA

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I don't think any meaningful discussion can be had after a red check anyway.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I don't think any meaningful discussion can be had after a red check anyway.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm
by Felicis
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?
Rolefishing?
Are you asking if I'm rolefishing, or if Grogu was when he claimed Aang?
I mean, you don't need to play coy in order to get me to out this information, if you want to know, just ask.
I'm not trying to play coy, I wasn't sure what you meant by your question.

But I mean yeah, if you know who Aang is and it's not Grogu who claimed to be Aang I'd like to know!

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:55 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm
Felicis wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?
Rolefishing?
Are you asking if I'm rolefishing, or if Grogu was when he claimed Aang?
I mean, you don't need to play coy in order to get me to out this information, if you want to know, just ask.
I'm not trying to play coy, I wasn't sure what you meant by your question.

But I mean yeah, if you know who Aang is and it's not Grogu who claimed to be Aang I'd like to know!
Well... You can't know.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:55 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
IBA wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
Yeah also HK is giving me scum vibes. I feel strongly about murdering both of them. Not sure how many scum that leaves I can't be bothered to math.
Yeh.

But.

Do three wolves pile on TSP at EOD for very little reason when none of them were on the chopping block? Then if town yeets in the TSP voters, it’s almost always bad for town.

HK would make more sense as a wolf in a world where the Dana peek is faked (and I’m assuming it’s not).

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
by Creature
Holy shit vig just saved town

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:55 pm
IBA wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:32 pm Also, Martin is a LOT scummier with a Mac flip, probably a good candidate for tomorrow.
Yeah also HK is giving me scum vibes. I feel strongly about murdering both of them. Not sure how many scum that leaves I can't be bothered to math.
Yeh.

But.

Do three wolves pile on TSP at EOD for very little reason when none of them were on the chopping block? Then if town yeets in the TSP voters, it’s almost always bad for town the wolves.

HK would make more sense as a wolf in a world where the Dana peek is faked (and I’m assuming it’s not).
EBWOP

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
by Creature
What a D1 disaster

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:57 pm
by Creature
Is it bad I only townread Long Dong?

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:58 pm
by Creature
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:05 pm well I'm preety glad we caught one wolf

was really ticked that we could've lost 5 villagers in 72 hours yesterday
Yeah we're probably still way behind

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:58 pm
by Creature
I'm suspicious of every talkative player here.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
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Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm
by Creature
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.

I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.
Probably not a good idea to out the info.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Creature wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:58 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:05 pm well I'm preety glad we caught one wolf

was really ticked that we could've lost 5 villagers in 72 hours yesterday
Yeah we're probably still way behind
“Failure is only the opportunity to begin again.”

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:01 pm
by Felicis
We *did* lose 5 villagers to be fair.

KZA during the day by Mac, Justin modkilled, Sig and Luckbox yeeted, and Ender during the night.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:01 pm
by Creature
Naviya wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm No im not happy Macdougall flipped mafia because that's exactly the type of flip hat makes me look dumb
My condolences

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:02 pm
by Creature
Naviya wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:27 pm We've still only missed 2 town-controlled kills so far
Yes, the double lynch

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:02 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Btw, Avatar the Last Airbender is basically a perfect series and they only thing that could have made it better was if the Boulder was more obviously the Rock and full of inside wrestling jokes.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:03 pm
by Creature
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm Can we vote on the redcheck @IBA ??
That'd be a boring day

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:03 pm
by Creature
Just found myself some time and now it is gonna be night again

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:05 pm
by Felicis
Creature wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.

I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.
Probably not a good idea to out the info.
Fair. I didn't really want to know who Aang is necessarily but was curious if Grogu was lying. I realize though that it could be more dangerous for town to disclose it than not so im okay not having that info. I am a little paranoid of Grogu now though lmao

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:06 pm
by Felicis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:02 pm Btw, Avatar the Last Airbender is basically a perfect series and they only thing that could have made it better was if the Boulder was more obviously the Rock and full of inside wrestling jokes.
*Chefkiss*

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:07 pm
by Creature
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm I don't think any meaningful discussion can be had after a red check anyway.
Image

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:08 pm
by Felicis
Okay I have to bounce for a little while folks, back in a bit.

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:08 pm
by Creature
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:02 pm Btw, Avatar the Last Airbender is basically a perfect series and they only thing that could have made it better was if the Boulder was more obviously the Rock and full of inside wrestling jokes.
Wished I had the time to start season 3

Re: AtLA D1

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:10 pm
by MartinGG99
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:55 pm Martin does appear to be supreme omega town tho
Yee
O.o

Re: AtLA D2

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:10 pm
by Guillotine
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