The Syndicate

Went with Russ and Dom because my tenuous feel for this game isn't about to get any stronger, and neither of them has won me over. Plus two of my town reads are already voting for them, and I am committed to this "don't send Bass to the duel" angle for some reason.

I feel Bass has been pretty genuine lately, so I don't think I'll be voting there again. As I also don't suspect Mac, I'm left looking at people who haven't been discussed much.

I'm considering a Ninja vote, for purely circumstantial reasons. She voted Russ on the day MP was lynched, explaining that she thought he wanted to duel. Given the timing of the vote, it could be an easy reason to vote the next viable option besides a teammate.

I'd also consider voting Scotty again, for reasons previously discussed. That he seems to be silenced again makes me think it's a ruse even more.

Went ahead and voted, I didn't feel like waiting around.

I'm also not sure why INH is taking votes now.

Me vs. Russtifinko.

went with bass and dom

People say they feel good about me but they don't trust me enough to duel...

I voted Russ and chose blindly between the silent players and went with Jan. I reread some of Scotty and Mac but I'm not feeling very decisive tonight. I'd rather put a vote on 2 players who are participating, it doesn't seem like much could be learned from non-participants, but again, I'm too wishy-washy tonight.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:On a side not it's pretty bad ads to be playing with Mata again.

I've been away from mafia for so long, that I was looking around for a 'like button' for your post. Yeah, I'm not tired at all tonight

Bass_the_Clever wrote:On a side not it's pretty bad ads to be playing with Mata again.

^^^^^^^^

Sloonei wrote:Went with Russ and Dom because my tenuous feel for this game isn't about to get any stronger, and neither of them has won me over. Plus two of my town reads are already voting for them, and I am committed to this "don't send Bass to the duel" angle for some reason.

Didn't you GTH me as civ like today?

Elohcin wrote:went with bass and dom

Literally why?

Dom wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:On a side not it's pretty bad ads to be playing with Mata again.

^^^^^^^^

nice to see everyone again, and so many people I don't know!

This EoD makes me feel icky.

Who is a threat to the Han? Appoint two for the duel.

Poll ended at Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:20 pm

Bass_the_Clever
4
Dom (8), Bass_the_Clever (10), Quin (14), Elohcin (20)
16%

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

Dom
3
Quin (15), Sloonei (16), Elohcin (21)
12%

Dunny
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

Golden
0
No votes

insertnamehere
2
Golden (5), nutella (13)
8%

Jan
2
Bass_the_Clever (11), Matahari (24)
8%

leetic
0
No votes

LoRab
0
No votes

MacDougall
1
Dom (7)
4%

Nerolunar
0
No votes

nijuukyugou
1
DFaraday (19)
4%

nutella
0
No votes

Quin
0
No votes

rabbit8
0
No votes

Russtifinko
4
nutella (12), Sloonei (17), Simon (22), Matahari (25)
16%

Scotty
1
DFaraday (18)
4%

sig
1
Golden (6)
4%

Simon
1
Simon (23)
4%

Sloonei
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

Cao Pi (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
5
Epignosis (1), juliets (2), Metalmarsh89 (3), Dragon D. Luffy (4), Glorfindel (9)
20%


Total votes : 25

Honor the slain.

Bass must be one powerful bitch.

I don't understand why the thread isn't locked though. Epi says I must not be paying attention. I guess I missed something.

If you will not honor the slain, you have no honor yourself.

posts lol

If he doesn't actually lock the thread, I'd recommend...not posting.

Just a wild guess but that might be what this 'honor the dead' thing is about.

Actually, there's a poll, so maybe we're able to discuss it.

So let's discuss it

Perhaps someone bought us this time as a reward.

I was thinking it was something along the lines of an item, or just a planned game mechanic. I don't see this being the secret behind someones role (at least before something comes of this)

First thing I jumped to was the possibility that we're voting to ressurect. I'd say I trust Rico the most for that purpose. 3J would be an asset, but there's the possibility that he's MP's teammate. I don't have strong reads on most of them though.

Oh, I see what you mean about the poll. And the thread is open so I presume we can talk. This definitely looks like some sort of reward. I do not know what "Honoring the Slain" will entail game-wise.

Theories on what this means?

linki: Resurrection is definitely a possibility. For that reason I suggest we all vote for a player who will be active in such an event. This game doesn't need more dead weight. Jay or Rico or Glorfindel or Turnip Head would be my choices.

And I assume votes are not changeable.

Sloonei wrote:Oh, I see what you mean about the poll. And the thread is open so I presume we can talk. This definitely looks like some sort of reward. I do not know what "Honoring the Slain" will entail game-wise.

Theories on what this means?

linki: Resurrection is definitely a possibility. For that reason I suggest we all vote for a player who will be active in such an event. This game doesn't need more dead weight. Jay or Rico or Glorfindel or Turnip Head would be my choices.

It's similar to the sock that was around a few days back. I don't know if it would be the same person, though, because only this one came with a poll and the other spoke during the day. What do you think?

I would be happy resurrecting any of those four, but just for the sake of being smart about it, here's my order of preference:

Ricochet
Glorfindel
Turnip Head
JaggedJimmyJay

Just to tinfoil a little, the recruiter does have a secret behind his role, so keep that in mind if a resurrection happens.

I am assuming this is an entirely new sock, unconnected to the other one(s) that floated around before.

"Honoring the Dead" may simply mean they have their roles revealed, or something along those lines. The Syndicate has been fond of resurrections in the past, so I'm certainly not going to count it out. I do not know how it would fit into the flavor at all, though.

These are all players who were nightkilled and whose roles are unrevealed. If that is the case I would suspect that this does mean we're revealing somebody's role. And in that case, it would be wise to vote a player around whom there is suspicion.

Hello, Boomslang. What do you think?

Quin wrote:Hello, Boomslang. What do you think?

What do you think it is?

Sloonei wrote:These are all players who were nightkilled and whose roles are unrevealed. If that is the case I would suspect that this does mean we're revealing somebody's role. And in that case, it would be wise to vote a player around whom there is suspicion.

hmm, this is an interesting perspective. Since we don't know what it is I'm inclined to err on the side of voting someone I trust more (Glorfindel) rather than someone I think may have been bad (JJJ) but idk also, if it does end up being a rez there is still possibility of recruitment but I am inclined to go for Glorf or Rico since I trust them the most

I doubt it will be a resurrection. I agree with Sloonei.

Well well well. We can talk at night. Splendid.

At this point I think we all have to make a definitive read on Bass, since he is the new duel master. If he is bad, we need to keep sending him to the arena. If he is good, why the hell are we still voting him? I know he's asking for it. Maybe he has enough treasures to give him that advantage he needs. And maybe he is on the blue team and the blue leader is still alive, thus giving him a +1 base.

Why was Russ voted for today?

I think Dom is a cheeky thread teller guy.

Why is Sloonei proud to admit he hasn't read the first 2 days? That's like going vegan but cheating every now and then on cookies because 'if I didn't read the nutrition information it must still be vegan". Infusing life into a thread is good...unless you're bad and just leading it into a pit.

If I was around yesterday ( ) then I probably would have voted Nutella and INH. Continuation vote and all that. I'm not making much of a case on them, so I understand why no one would follow suit, but I see INH had a little traction yesterday, which is nice. I think he could be a little dirtier. I think Nutella is plenty dirty. Her voting and voice of suspicions are meh.

Golden, I still haven't responded to your post, and honestly the way my weeks have been shaping up I'm just not going to get to it. My thoughts have been very much disconnected from this game over the past few cycles, to the point where I feel like I'm swimming in a whirlpool of suspicion.

and I still suspect you as well, Golden. For reasons previously stated, even though people like DF have said it wasn't logical. Maybe. Again, I'm not gonna lie that I've slipped off the deep end in the game as I work. The only thing suffering here is my case building. So meh. I'm liking Quin's gall with people accusing him.

Mata, why would you consider voting me at all? And why Jan, of the inactives?

I'd soonest rez Glorfindel.
I'd soonest find out Jay's role.

I struggle to know which I'd prefer to do knowing that we could get either.

Scotty, to be clear, the point isn't that suspecting me isn't logical, the point was that your post wasn't logical.

Sloon, I think I agree that it may be a role reveal in this poll, but I fear that picking the most suspicous person is riskier in the case that it IS a resurrection. I don't trust Nutella, so the people she suggested (Rico and Glorf) give me pause because I thought them pretty trustworthy. I could just be farting in the wind here though. I didn't trust TH. I have no reason to believe Glorf was bad. Rico could be, I guess, but I dunno.

Because I'm not sure of my availability over this phase, I'm gonna go ahead and vote Glorf. If it's just a role reveal, I don't think that will be unhelpful by any means. If it's resurrect, that's cool I think.

Going to sleep. Hope to be alive tomorrow and feed the fish.

Golden wrote:I'd soonest rez Glorfindel.
I'd soonest find out Jay's role.

I struggle to know which I'd prefer to do knowing that we could get either.

I think we're on the same page.

Golden wrote:Scotty, to be clear, the point isn't that suspecting me isn't logical, the point was that your post wasn't logical.

I think we're on the same page.

Also, votes are not changeable in case you wanted to know

I might also vote Glorfindel, not sure yet. He's a good 'middle ground' where his role flip would be helpful given that he's the only one of the four to actually have had a vote bandwagon, and if he's rezzed, I'm happy with that too.

I'll come back to it before I go to bed in a few hours.

Quin wrote:Hello, Boomslang. What do you think?

Whew, I should not have missed that previous vote. Stupid life. And I'm really rather angry at myself for misreading DDL. Sigh, can't win them all.

Regarding this poll, my gut tells me it's not a rez. Chinese mythology is pretty big on ancestor spirits staying ancestor spirits, IIRC. The role reveal is a good guess, and in that case, I think I'd vote JJJ. That option would put the most possible posts into context.

Well I guess the thread I isn't locked so what does everyone think?

If it's a rez wouldn't we want to bring back a know civ

Sorry I wasn't around last night , I passed out as soon as I touched my bed.

I put a vote on Turnip Head for diversity. Any of the four names I mentioned earlier are fine with me. I do not think this is a resurrection, but that is obviously just speculation.

I have a free second.

Epignosis wrote:

Dear Scotty,

I'm not Bass_the_Clever, I'm the f******* lizard king.

Yours,

Thanks for talking directly to me and lying about it. Russ was the lizard king.
I take back what I said- you said on Day 3 that Dom was saved, which would be kinda silly to do if you were Dom. I no longer think you are Dom.

Let me also talk directly to Sloonei:
I mentioned last night that it's a bad look for you to not have looked at Days 1 and 2. Ironically, I think those are the days that have the most information to be gleaned. After all, we caught 2 Nanman in a row, and have voting records to sift through! I'm leaning slight Mafia on you for that, as well as just realizing you replaced Bubbles, who was one of my Mafia reads from the day 1 lynch. I totally forgot why I dropped that suspicion, but then again I'm so busy these days I forgot what I ate for dinner last night.

@SLOONEI do me a favor and read through days 1 and 2. The "fresh perspective" thing is useful in a vacuum, but this is not a vacuum.

May I also review the battle histories, in case you all forgot..(I forgot and had to dig them up. After day 2, my inferences are scarce so I guess that's mostly to jog my memory):
Day 1: I defeated DrWilgy. He was Nanman. The lynch snuck up on both of us in about the last 30 minutes and I regrettably had nothing to do in that lynch besides be a pawn. But I did defeat a Mafia member, so I HOPE TO COME BACK TO THIS LYNCH

Day 2: Russ defeated MM. He was Nanman. Omg there's so much information on voting. It makes Dom actually look good, since MM tried to vote both he and Russ to save himself. We know Russ was good. Other people could be looked at as potentially dropping in save votes towards the end. I invite everyone to look at the vote progression there and make your judgments. I hope to look there again on my next break.

Day 3: Sorsha defeated timmer. Timmer was a civ warrior. This bodes well for Sorsha to the extent that odds are she was a warrior as well, though that's wholly inconclusive. The timmer train got crazy at the end of the day, and Sorsha and caps steadily rose throughout the day.

Day 4: Russ defeated MP. MP was Yellow Turban. The vote was tied between MP, Glorf and Bass, with Russ only 1 vote up because of a last second vote by nutella.

Day 5: Caps defeated DP. DP was a civ warrior. DP had a healthy train going and only had caps and Mac behind him. Dunno what to make of this one yet.

Day 6: DDL defeated caps. Caps was a civ warrior. Pretty straightforward vote, except Bass was tied with DDL, thanks to a saving vote from Nutella. Since we know both caps and DDL were civs, we knew Mafia had nothing to lose for voting them. Bass could have been a save opportunity though.

Day 7: Bass defeated DDL. DDL was a civ warrior. IM SEEING A PATTERN HERE. Bass and DDL had huge trains and it didn't look like anything else was going to happen today. Makes Bass look good. He probably was not "saved" the day before in the sense that his knowing teammate saved him.

Day 8: Bass defeated Russ. Russ was civ warrior. So at this point Bass has amassed 2 treasures and looks really good. For some reason he and Russ kept getting pushed to battle. There was no clear runner up to battle against them.

Anyone notice that the trains get going on people battling the day before or the day before that? And in the end, we're getting no closer.

I propose tomorrow we send up 2 people that haven't ever battled, because if the pattern continues, 1) we might just get nowhere and 2) we're running out of people that have battled before, me being one of them

I don't think Bass is bad after looking at that, and think we should leave him alone. What do y'all think?

I voted jjj because if it's a rez that's cool if it's a role reveal that's cool too.

Looks like Quinn and Scotty might have been trying to start an early bandwagon. Just something to keep in mind down the road.

I went with TH. I still think he was civ, and given how he was a talking point for some time, it would be useful to know more about him, whatever the poll does exactly.