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Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:10 pm**

Hmmmmmmm

Will see if Kyle claims

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 pm**

Yeah, I am having a hard time seeing any of them as bad.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:20 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 pm Yeah, I am having a hard time seeing any of them as bad.

Who do you reckon is bad then?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:21 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me
Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.

Not good enough

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:24 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me
Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.

I think the questions re speed is do we believe his claim, does believing his claim make him a civ, and would three mafia members all be on a counterwagon to Luna? If she was saved it would've been very helpful, but based off what we've seen the mafia have been bussing each other so I'm unsure there.

Food for though, do we think we've got a seemer role going on and/or the assassin makes everyone they kill flip mafia? Maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems like we've been way to lucky this game.

We've already established that Luna was bussed. How does voting for her make you town?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:26 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:40 pm @ColinIsCool do you see why I suspected you and jay on day2 now?

No, I don't. I don't see what my suspicion of Niju has to do with anything you posted, quite frankly.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:27 pm**

It's written all over his D3 that DH and him wanted her lynched. Their irritation was palpable lol

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:29 pm**

Like if anyone else can explain what sprit means, I genuinely don't understand what I'm supposed to understand here.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:30 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:20 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 pm Yeah, I am having a hard time seeing any of them as bad.
Who do you reckon is bad then?

I'm having a hard time seeing any of them as bad but that doesn't mean one of them is not. I need to re-assess my POE. Which of them do you think is bad? Maybe you said but if so I forgot.

linki

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:33 pm**

He's a spy variant that gets a (random?) message each night from the baddies btsc.

N1 -> A baddie mentioning they'll block niju -> clearing her
N2 -> baddie mentioning putting two votes on LC -> clearing him

and so on...

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:36 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:33 pm He's a spy variant that gets a (random?) message each night from the baddies btsc.

N1 -> A baddie mentioning they'll block niju -> clearing her
N2 -> baddie mentioning putting two votes on LC -> clearing him

and so on...

No, I get this. I don't see how a suspicion of me is to be derived from here unless sprit's thinking is

> scum mention nijuu in BTSC
> Colin talks about nijuu and wanting to lynch her
QED Colin is scum

and if that's the case I say sprit, baby, what is you doing

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:37 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:20 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 pm Yeah, I am having a hard time seeing any of them as bad.
Who do you reckon is bad then?
I'm having a hard time seeing any of them as bad but that doesn't mean one of them is not. I need to re-assess my POE. Which of them do you think is bad? Maybe you said but if so I forgot.

linki

Going Speedchuck > Kyle > Sprit at the moment. Could change depending on Kyle's claim.

Yeah, I get that. I was more asking in the case of none of them being bad, who do you think among the rest is bad?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:38 pm**

It's not that important tbh, don't let it distract you from actual hunting/deciding to lynch whomever

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:39 pm**

I feel like if Chuck was bad he'd have a lot more fire in him than to look at the poll and say "Well, AMA" but maybe not.

What game is The Conductor from? Is that the flavor text guy from Retro?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:40 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

And what the fuck does this mean? Hate it because it confuses us? Hate it because it's off-wagon? I feel like this is a huge clue.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:41 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:36 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:33 pm He's a spy variant that gets a (random?) message each night from the baddies btsc.

N1 -> A baddie mentioning they'll block niju -> clearing her
N2 -> baddie mentioning putting two votes on LC -> clearing him

and so on...
No, I get this. I don't see how a suspicion of me is to be derived from here unless sprit's thinking is

> scum mention nijuu in BTSC
> Colin talks about nijuu and wanting to lynch her
QED Colin is scum

and if that's the case I say sprit, baby, what is you doing

Oh yeah I had forgotten about that. So he was basically suspecting/voting you for having reads that go against his interpretation of his result

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:31 pm DH was having no fun because his teammate Enrique ghosted his team. Discuss.

Projecting genuine irritation?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:52 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:29 pm Like if anyone else can explain what sprit means, I genuinely don't understand what I'm supposed to understand here.

N1 the mafia (jay) made plans to vote nijuu and get her mislynched

you both voted her day 2 so that's where it came from

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:02 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:40 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"
And what the fuck does this mean? Hate it because it confuses us? Hate it because it's off-wagon? I feel like this is a huge clue.

How possible is it for a baddie sprityo to have made up those "snippets", and the whole thing is meant to lead us on wild goose chase interpretations?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:31 pm DH was having no fun because his teammate Enrique ghosted his team. Discuss.
Projecting genuine irritation?

Could be.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:10 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:39 pm I feel like if Chuck was bad he'd have a lot more fire in him than to look at the poll and say "Well, AMA" but maybe not.

What game is The Conductor from? Is that the flavor text guy from Retro?

He was a 3p in a burglary I ran

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:12 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:10 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:39 pm I feel like if Chuck was bad he'd have a lot more fire in him than to look at the poll and say "Well, AMA" but maybe not.

What game is The Conductor from? Is that the flavor text guy from Retro?
He was a 3p in a burglary I ran

But he's town here? Does that make sense?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:29 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“
Night2: "should make Niju vote for whoever I give 2 automatic votes"
Night3: "So are we going to not lynch Luna for the third day?"
Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

believable. I think you should keep sharing these with the class.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 pm JaggedJimmyJay, speedchuck, nijuukyugou, Lunalee, juliets

Eloh voters on D4.
Based on this that is. Could be juliets but seems unlikely and even less likely niju.

I do have this nagging in my head about Juliets. She can usually fool me.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:36 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:56 pm It couldn't have been Luna though. N4, Luna was dead.

If we trust that info, we also trust the info clearing Niju so it couldn't be her either.

JJJ, Speedchuck or Juliets. Doesn't sound like JJJ to me

I don't know about y'all, but I have been a part of several mafia teams where you can continue to have btsc after you are dead. You just cannot talk in the thread or submit PMs.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:39 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:20 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 pm Yeah, I am having a hard time seeing any of them as bad.
Who do you reckon is bad then?

during the night, the people on the poll were like the top suspects. Now that it is just between them, we are reconsidering. I don't know what to make of that. If we are reconsideration is good, then at least this short list has helped us understand better who to trust.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:46 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:40 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"
And what the fuck does this mean? Hate it because it confuses us? Hate it because it's off-wagon? I feel like this is a huge clue.

and, was this talking about the future...like a vote for me on Day 5? If so, we know that the short poll list is civ doing.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:47 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:52 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:29 pm Like if anyone else can explain what sprit means, I genuinely don't understand what I'm supposed to understand here.
N1 the mafia (jay) made plans to vote nijuu and get her mislynched

you both voted her day 2 so that's where it came from

Where does it say that in the N1 snippet you posted?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:48 pm**

@LC, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for sprit to make those up to throw us off him.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:39 pm**

I came into today thinking I would vote for sprit but after reading all this I believe him. I need to think on this.

I feel better about Chuck than about Kyle. But I will sleep on my vote and read Kyle again.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:40 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:48 pm @LC, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for sprit to make those up to throw us off him.

Yeah, I'm going to vote for him I think. I think it's all fishy.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:45 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:12 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:10 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:39 pm I feel like if Chuck was bad he'd have a lot more fire in him than to look at the poll and say "Well, AMA" but maybe not.

What game is The Conductor from? Is that the flavor text guy from Retro?
He was a 3p in a burglary I ran
But he's town here? Does that make sense?

Yes, because epi complained about the role not being town in its original incarnation. It wasn't a very well designed role, and epi was the one playing it.

The role in this game is completely different.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:46 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:47 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:52 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:29 pm Like if anyone else can explain what sprit means, I genuinely don't understand what I'm supposed to understand here.
N1 the mafia (jay) made plans to vote nijuu and get her mislynched

you both voted her day 2 so that's where it came from
Where does it say that in the N1 snippet you posted?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 pm He was Xerxes, a member of the Mafia.

Xerxes
Exercising your great power and influence, you can prevent someone from speaking, voting, using an ability the next phase, using an item, or any combination of these things. Whatever action you take against someone emboldens them and fills them with righteous anger, however: Each action you take against your target increases his or her voting power by one the following Day phase. You cannot target anyone who shares your alignment.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:51 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:40 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:48 pm @LC, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for sprit to make those up to throw us off him.
Yeah, I'm going to vote for him I think. I think it's all fishy.

The thing is he's telling the truth.

I said the third thing, about lynching Luna three days in a row. I have the radio, it gives me a chat. I said that because I was pissed that we kept starting and letting Luna slip off.

So sprit is telling the truth and I can corroborate it. If you are gonna vote for him, do it knowing he did not make that stuff up. That would be a bizarre power for a baddie.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:57 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:31 pmSomething about Kyle, though — his under-the-radarness — makes me think he’s the best shot.

this has been said about me in every game i've ever played.

i am not a loud player

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:40 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:48 pm @LC, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for sprit to make those up to throw us off him.
Yeah, I'm going to vote for him I think. I think it's all fishy.
The thing is he's telling the truth.

I said the third thing, about lynching Luna three days in a row. I have the radio, it gives me a chat. I said that because I was pissed that we kept starting and letting Luna slip off.

So sprit is telling the truth and I can corroborate it. If you are gonna vote for him, do it knowing he did not make that stuff up. That would be a bizarre power for a baddie.

I KNEW that it sounded weird for mafia to be complaining about not lynching luna. like they could kill her if they wanted her gone that bad. This has enlightened me thank you SVS

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:01 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:14 pm So I’m Satellite Surveillance Engineer, BTSC scanner, here’s my results

Night1: “i'll have a good go at blocking niju
genuine mafia candidate and easily supportable later when targets must be claimed“
Night2: "should make Niju vote for whoever I give 2 automatic votes"
Night3: "So are we going to not lynch Luna for the third day?"
Night4: "They’re going to hate my Elohcin vote! Fun"

interesting

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:12 pm**

okay well... i believe sprityo. that's way too specific to be fake, and i already trusted SVS in the first place and it'd be extremely unlikely for there to be 6 mafia members on one team somehow. i completely understand why he vouched for Luna given the night 3 message out of context. sprityo's town

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13 pm**

What do you got Kyle?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:40 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:48 pm @LC, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for sprit to make those up to throw us off him.
Yeah, I'm going to vote for him I think. I think it's all fishy.
The thing is he's telling the truth.

I said the third thing, about lynching Luna three days in a row. I have the radio, it gives me a chat. I said that because I was pissed that we kept starting and letting Luna slip off.

So sprit is telling the truth and I can corroborate it. If you are gonna vote for him, do it knowing he did not make that stuff up. That would be a bizarre power for a baddie.

Cool! [VOTE: spedchuk] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:28 pm**

i'm a 1-shot vigilante, if we're all town then i think i should be the one to die, using my kill at this stage of the game isn't a sound choice, and speedchuck's role has potential to be positive later on if it takes a while to find the last mafia and the assassin. (assuming he's telling the truth i guess)

the only alternative idea i have is that speedchuck's role sounds like it could be potentially independently aligned, but an independent who gains powers from townie lynches wouldn't benefit from telling us the truth about the logistics of their role.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:29 pm**

what was the conductor's alignment/role power in the original game?

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:30 pm**

this phase seems less than ideal

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:35 pm**

hmm idk, if we get into a messy endgame with 3Ps a vig shot might be a nice thing to have, but maybe that's about as likely as the game going long enough for speed to be useful so...

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:43 pm**

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:00 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:29 pm what was the conductor's alignment/role power in the original game?

3p, but the conductor didn't have a role power in the original game, if I recall correctly.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 am**

loud sighing

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:35 pm hmm idk, if we get into a messy endgame with 3Ps a vig shot might be a nice thing to have, but maybe that's about as likely as the game going long enough for speed to be useful so...

TBF if I got to endgame being able to skip a nightphase would be pretty sweet.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:04 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:28 pm i'm a 1-shot vigilante

This seems really tame compared to everything that's been claimed or flipped

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:06 am**

What game are you from, Kyle?

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:08 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:04 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:28 pm i'm a 1-shot vigilante

This seems really tame compared to everything that's been claimed or flipped

i mean, it's a kill, how fancy does it need to be?

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