The Syndicate

falcon is Alison's teammate.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:55 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:52 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:50 pm Alison, what's your Seanzie read.

He's lightly town. His D1 was better than his D2, but I think he tends to go for a more agreeable persona as scum (and especially in this kind of gamestate where people are losing WIM and townies are getting modkilled), so I liked the fact that he cased you. I don't agree with the case, though.

Which of my scum games have you read?

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

None. I was informed of your scum meta by MacDougall.

I don't know why you're bothering to do this when it should be clear to you by now that I can just read you. You got pissy at me about reading you for certain reasons despite not knowing your scum meta both in Spank and in basic mafia, and I was town in both.

Esooa, why is Alison town?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 pm falcon is Alison's teammate.

Why is falcon my teammate?

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:08 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:44 pm I feel way too anxious about this EOD given I’m. It in any danger.

towny

Not really.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:17 pm Current townslist for me is Esooa/Falcon/Fingersplints/Kami/Transcend

Why is splints/Kami in there?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 pm falcon is Alison's teammate.

Why is falcon my teammate?

You asked the same thing about fingersplints in exactly the same way.

I didn't answer.

You never pressed me on it.

You are not a civilian.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:17 pm Current townslist for me is Esooa/Falcon/Fingersplints/Kami/Transcend

Why is splints/Kami in there?

Splints is playing into her townstyle. See Basic, as the play here reminds me a little of that.

Kami, when I've seen her wolf, has generally not aggro'd half of town until she was wagoned.

Maybe rose tinted on the last one.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:55 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:52 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:50 pm Alison, what's your Seanzie read.

He's lightly town. His D1 was better than his D2, but I think he tends to go for a more agreeable persona as scum (and especially in this kind of gamestate where people are losing WIM and townies are getting modkilled), so I liked the fact that he cased you. I don't agree with the case, though.

Which of my scum games have you read?

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

None. I was informed of your scum meta by MacDougall.

I don't know why you're bothering to do this when it should be clear to you by now that I can just read you. You got pissy at me about reading you for certain reasons despite not knowing your scum meta both in Spank and in basic mafia, and I was town in both.

I don't get pissy. I ask you to explain your reads, and then I poke are your reasoning to see if there is substance there. I use it as a chance to read you. Here you specifically are referring to a scum meta, based on second-hand information, which is honestly not really true. Even if Mac did tell you that (I won't press when for raisins), it isn't accurate meta on me.

You trying to play this off as me being pissy, and not me just asking you to explain your read is telling.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 pm falcon is Alison's teammate.

Why is falcon my teammate?

You asked the same thing about fingersplints in exactly the same way.

I didn't answer.

You never pressed me on it.

You are not a civilian.

I don't follow up on all my questions. You vanished from the thread, I engaged with Kami and Esooa, and by the time we were both back in the thread together the threadstate was different and you weren't even voting splints any more.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 pm I don't get pissy. I ask you to explain your reads, and then I poke are your reasoning to see if there is substance there. I use it as a chance to read you. Here you specifically are referring to a scum meta, based on second-hand information, which is honestly not really true. Even if Mac did tell you that (I won't press when for raisins), it isn't accurate meta on me.

You trying to play this off as me being pissy, and not me just asking you to explain your read is telling.

You have directly or indirectly insinuated that I am reading you a certain way because I have TMI on you despite having a lack of "accurate meta" three times in three games and you have voted me for them. In basic mafia you directly contributed to (bad) suspicion on me because of that read.

I trust Mac's evaluation of people's meta. He is a good player and the reads that he makes based on meta is usually accurate. I have no reason to believe his meta is ill-informed; if you disagree with it, okay, but that was the reason I made that read on you.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 pm falcon is Alison's teammate.

Why is falcon my teammate?

You asked the same thing about fingersplints in exactly the same way.

I didn't answer.

You never pressed me on it.

You are not a civilian.

I don't follow up on all my questions. You vanished from the thread, I engaged with Kami and Esooa, and by the time we were both back in the thread together the threadstate was different and you weren't even voting splints any more.

I deliberately didn't answer your question.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 pm I deliberately didn't answer your question.

Good for you. You have moved off splints and don't seem particularly interested in pushing her now so I figured you just changed your read.

So why do you think falcon and I are partners?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 pm I don't get pissy. I ask you to explain your reads, and then I poke are your reasoning to see if there is substance there. I use it as a chance to read you. Here you specifically are referring to a scum meta, based on second-hand information, which is honestly not really true. Even if Mac did tell you that (I won't press when for raisins), it isn't accurate meta on me.

You trying to play this off as me being pissy, and not me just asking you to explain your read is telling.

You have directly or indirectly insinuated that I am reading you a certain way because I have TMI on you despite having a lack of "accurate meta" three times in three games and you have voted me for them. In basic mafia you directly contributed to (bad) suspicion on me because of that read.

I trust Mac's evaluation of people's meta. He is a good player and the reads that he makes based on meta is usually accurate. I have no reason to believe his meta is ill-informed; if you disagree with it, okay, but that was the reason I made that read on you.

Yes, I directly or indirectly insinuate a lot of things a lot of the time to see how people react.

The one time Mac was town and saw me scum, I had a great D1 where I pushed him and JJJ really hard, and then I essentially went MIA after that, posting only occasionally D2 and D3.

I changed my mind, I want to press. When did you talk to Mac about my meta?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 pm I deliberately didn't answer your question.

Good for you. You have moved off splints and don't seem particularly interested in pushing her now so I figured you just changed your read.

So why do you think falcon and I are partners?

I think Falcon is mafia.

I think you are mafia,

Simple, really.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:17 pm Current townslist for me is Esooa/Falcon/Fingersplints/Kami/Transcend

Why is splints/Kami in there?

Splints is playing into her townstyle. See Basic, as the play here reminds me a little of that.

Kami, when I've seen her wolf, has generally not aggro'd half of town until she was wagoned.

Maybe rose tinted on the last one.

I thought she was obvious in basic when she posted at the end and said as much in that game. I don't see her being obvious here. The strongest argument in favor of her is that she has non W/W interactions with most of the POE, but none of those interactions are with people in my POE. A splints, Kami, Rondo, Syn team is entirely plausible.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:09 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 pm I don't get pissy. I ask you to explain your reads, and then I poke are your reasoning to see if there is substance there. I use it as a chance to read you. Here you specifically are referring to a scum meta, based on second-hand information, which is honestly not really true. Even if Mac did tell you that (I won't press when for raisins), it isn't accurate meta on me.

You trying to play this off as me being pissy, and not me just asking you to explain your read is telling.

You have directly or indirectly insinuated that I am reading you a certain way because I have TMI on you despite having a lack of "accurate meta" three times in three games and you have voted me for them. In basic mafia you directly contributed to (bad) suspicion on me because of that read.

I trust Mac's evaluation of people's meta. He is a good player and the reads that he makes based on meta is usually accurate. I have no reason to believe his meta is ill-informed; if you disagree with it, okay, but that was the reason I made that read on you.

Yes, I directly or indirectly insinuate a lot of things a lot of the time to see how people react.

The one time Mac was town and saw me scum, I had a great D1 where I pushed him and JJJ really hard, and then I essentially went MIA after that, posting only occasionally D2 and D3.

I changed my mind, I want to press. When did you talk to Mac about my meta?

I talked to Mac about your meta in a game I don't want to talk about any further because it might violate game integrity.

I don't care to say more than that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:09 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 pm I deliberately didn't answer your question.

Good for you. You have moved off splints and don't seem particularly interested in pushing her now so I figured you just changed your read.

So why do you think falcon and I are partners?

I think Falcon is mafia.

I think you are mafia,

Simple, really.

I don't think falcon is mafia. Why do you think he is?

that's cool

I'm town tho and you've never cased me, just keep putting me in your wolf team list

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 pm that's cool

I'm town tho and you've never cased me, just keep putting me in your wolf team list

I don't need to case you to put you in my POE. You have done nothing townie and you have voteparked me for no stated reason. That's good enough for me.

LOL

shoot Alison into the sun

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:15 pm shoot Alison into the sun

The sun has rejected Alison, Alison is so bad.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:19 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:10 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:17 pm Current townslist for me is Esooa/Falcon/Fingersplints/Kami/Transcend

Why is splints/Kami in there?

Splints is playing into her townstyle. See Basic, as the play here reminds me a little of that.

Kami, when I've seen her wolf, has generally not aggro'd half of town until she was wagoned.

Maybe rose tinted on the last one.

I thought she was obvious in basic when she posted at the end and said as much in that game. I don't see her being obvious here. The strongest argument in favor of her is that she has non W/W interactions with most of the POE, but none of those interactions are with people in my POE. A splints, Kami, Rondo, Syn team is entirely plausible.

I think Rondo/Splints are hard unpaired after he made a shot about her using her life as a shield.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:21 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:10 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:17 pm Current townslist for me is Esooa/Falcon/Fingersplints/Kami/Transcend

Why is splints/Kami in there?

Splints is playing into her townstyle. See Basic, as the play here reminds me a little of that.

Kami, when I've seen her wolf, has generally not aggro'd half of town until she was wagoned.

Maybe rose tinted on the last one.

I thought she was obvious in basic when she posted at the end and said as much in that game. I don't see her being obvious here. The strongest argument in favor of her is that she has non W/W interactions with most of the POE, but none of those interactions are with people in my POE. A splints, Kami, Rondo, Syn team is entirely plausible.

I think Rondo/Splints are hard unpaired after he made a shot about her using her life as a shield.

yes, it was a low blow that I don't think Fingersplints would have approved

I'm caught up.

I think it's Epi and one of splints/Rondo. The case on me is crap and the timing was designed to draw heat away from the soft slots. Less likely splints than Rondo for obvious reasons. Syn could be in on it or just a townie with bad reads.

In this world it is probably not Kami because if the scum team wanted to drum up an Alison exe and she was on it they'd just send her to do it. I don't know who the last person is. It could be Ender fishing for a pocket and slowly withdrawing support as they move towards an Alison exe. It could just be someone like Axe who's afk watching as it happens. I'd prefer to flip Epi first, and ideally want Epi/Rondo wagons.

Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:21 pm I think Rondo/Splints are hard unpaired after he made a shot about her using her life as a shield.

This is a good point.

Ok i'm team alison again

So I guess the splints not having any possible partners point is good after all since I think she's unlikely with Epi and definitely not with Rondo.

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

I'mma see where this goes for now.

She can be with Kami but I am leaning more towards Epi/Rondo than splints/Kami right now.

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:26 pm Ok i'm team alison again

What is your read on Epi?

maybe the weak link in my town core was doggy and not esooa

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 pm So I guess the splints not having any possible partners point is good after all since I think she's unlikely with Epi and definitely not with Rondo.

Welcome to why she jumped to my townlist.

She COULD still be scum, but her team requires at least 2 of Esooa/Seanzie/Kami.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 pm Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

There's no obvious town.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:28 pm maybe the weak link in my town core was doggy and not esooa

Ngl I'm re-checking my doggo townread rn as well lmao.

I don't think w!Doggo goes crazy over me earlier in this day phase though.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 pm So I guess the splints not having any possible partners point is good after all since I think she's unlikely with Epi and definitely not with Rondo.

Welcome to why she jumped to my townlist.

She COULD still be scum, but her team requires at least 2 of Esooa/Seanzie/Kami.

Are you insinuating that you also have Epi and Rondo as top suspects?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

I'mma see where this goes for now.

In the toilet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 pm Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

There's no obvious town.

What makes him scum for you if nobody is townie?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:30 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 pm So I guess the splints not having any possible partners point is good after all since I think she's unlikely with Epi and definitely not with Rondo.

Welcome to why she jumped to my townlist.

She COULD still be scum, but her team requires at least 2 of Esooa/Seanzie/Kami.

Are you insinuating that you also have Epi and Rondo as top suspects?

Epi keeps popping in and out. I can't decide if I'm confbiasing on him or not so give me five minutes and my read on him will have changed.

I think Rondo might be town, but he's difficult for me to read. His play on forum space is different to his IRL but that's to be expected. I do like his nitpicking but I'd be lying if I said he couldn't do that as mafia.

GTH I'd lean Rondo town tho.

I was insinuating that Fingers has unlikely teams at best so I feel better to keep out of POE

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 pm Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

There's no obvious town.

What makes him scum for you if nobody is townie?

Not what I said.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 pm Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

There's no obvious town.

What makes him scum for you if nobody is townie?

Not what I said.

What makes him scum for you?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 pm Epi has also not explained why falcon is mafia. I thought he was obvious town even before the "BTSC" stuff. I suspect he does not actually have a case and just threw in a widely townread person to spice it up and make it look more authentic. I am sure he will say he intentionally didn't explain because it was his plan to reaction test me though.

There's no obvious town.

What makes him scum for you if nobody is townie?

Not what I said.

What makes him scum for you?

Falcon didn't give a shit on the HK + Made lynch. Falcon was comfortable letting this go. I said as much.

Hammer is at 7

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Alison
3
19%


Voters: Seanzie, Syn, Epignosis

Enderwiggin
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epignosis
3
19%


Voters: Transcend, EnderWiggin, Alison

Esooa
0
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Falcon45ca
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Voters: None

Fingersplints
1
6%


Voters: NotAnAxehole

Hollowkatt
0
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Voters: None

Kami
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Notanaxehole
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Rondodimbuckle
2
13%


Voters: Kami, Esooa

Seanzie
1
6%


Voters: falcon45ca

Syn
0
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Voters: None

Transcend
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sleep (hammerable)
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No vote (not hammerable)
1
6%


Voters: RondoDimBuckle

Host/dead/spec
5
31%


Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, dunya, Scotty, hollowkatt, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME


Total votes: 16