Team Fortress Mafia [END]

[NotAnAxehole]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

[NotAnAxehole]

Agreed

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It is not a good point. Nanook would allow Sabie do the night kill because she was outted wolf already, better her than risking another teammate getting caught killing Dizzy.

There are like 8 roleblocks this game lol, you can't have someone like sabie carry the kill n1

Frankly it's amazing that any team let her carry

The only caveat is if you had a team that dismissed you - which is possible given your general easygoing-limited activity nature. Otherwise you're town.

Sure, but the people that applies to is pretty limited i think

So, I have to assume that based on my last game with Sabie, she would side with the 2 over the 1... I don't think it's as limiting as that given there are some hard heads in this game, buuut I think this is a situation where what you think matters more than what I think.

Eh, i tend to think sabs would side with me, but im not sure how much this matters anyways

It only becomes relevant if you come under fire. I tend to agree with your strategy of sheeping Marmot, but assuming Marmot either doesn't show up or is too boring to merit a sheep, what do you think of Lime Coke this game? Dolby? Mac? Falcon?

@NotAnAxehole I'm town red heavy and self saved last night. Just putting that here for you to read. Also you @DrWilgy.

NAA why you no push Nanook?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who do you want to chop today?

I'm pretty disengaged from this game, sorry. Just...has not been the most fun environment, for me.

Anyways ill probably just sheep Marmot at eod, tbh. Unless there's mech, which lime seems to think there is from his tag of me, but like...I'm not reading enough to verify that and the poll seems wonky if it is a red, and im picking up that he blocked someone and jumped the gun on it being a red, from the like 5 posts I've read today? Not sure how meaningful that is in a setup with like a dozen blocks, it probably means *something* i guess, but not really a smoking gun most of the time the way it can be in other setups.

[falcon45ca]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

[NotAnAxehole]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

There are two of every role

[falcon45ca]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

There are two of every role

Yes, I understand that. I didn't know both LC & Dolby had claimed RB.



Do you see town as having 2 RBers? I know you SR LC, so I'll assume not

[Guillotine]

LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

[Guillotine]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

[Guillotine]

Also, why are people even talking about D1 as though it was a major CFD, Sabie never held a majority vote on D1. She peaked at 7/18 votes.

Because Sabie flipped wolf and any biggest wagon in plurality gets chopped?

[falcon45ca]

LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

[NotAnAxehole]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

[Guillotine]

LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

The drama is why are you fucking lying?

[Guillotine]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

Im actually asking because i dont have that clear

[NotAnAxehole]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

Im actually asking because i dont have that clear

Who knows, I didn't read the OP.

[Guillotine]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

Im actually asking because i dont have that clear

Who knows, I didn't read the OP.

I read it once and i forgot it all gradually over the course of the game but i must admit i didnt understand many things and didnt ask here cause i didnt want to look dumb lol.

[NotAnAxehole]

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

The drama is why are you fucking lying?

[NotAnAxehole]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

Im actually asking because i dont have that clear

Who knows, I didn't read the OP.

I read it once and i forgot it all gradually over the course of the game but i must admit i didnt understand many things and didnt ask here cause i didnt want to look dumb lol.

I didn't read, asked for a TL;DR on my role PM and got an explanation longer than my role PM. I assumed I was being trolled and just figured I'd play as though this is mountainous.

[Guillotine]

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that you think this because with 18 players it's pretty much impossible for all of the roles to be split 50/50 between town and scum, what got you thinking that 2 of the same role can't both be town?

Im actually asking because i dont have that clear

Who knows, I didn't read the OP.

I read it once and i forgot it all gradually over the course of the game but i must admit i didnt understand many things and didnt ask here cause i didnt want to look dumb lol.

I didn't read, asked for a TL;DR on my role PM and got an explanation longer than my role PM. I assumed I was being trolled and just figured I'd play as though this is mountainous.

LMAO

[falcon45ca]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

I don't know that we have confirmation that there's a copy role for town/maf

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

The drama is why are you fucking lying?

I am a Medic, that's not a lie

[Jackofhearts2005]

Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.

I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?

This post is super fake

Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.

[falcon45ca]

Marmot

Why would you claim this and let scum know that they can kill Marmot tonight?

A real medic never claims their targets unless they are at risk of getting chopped.

The fuck is this game?

Why do you assume I'm telling the truth?

I dont, i dont think you are the medic. The medics just shut their mouths until they are at risk.

So what's with all the drama?

The drama is why are you fucking lying?

I'm not sure I see the relevance.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We return to the usual programming with a Right of Reply statement by the Sniper.

He says his profession is not a "point and click adventure", and that his class his a very high level of skill expression.

In fact, he wants to show why with a video. So ladies and gentleman, let's meet Mr. Mundy, hailing from New Zealand (though he was raised in Australia), the crazed gunman professional assassin of TF2.

Also nobody died this night. Sounds like the Sniper needs to stop bragging and get back at his job!

And the Red Engineer's base is now equipped with both a Sentry and a Dispenser. So on top of getting +1 vote, entering his base will also protect you from one night kill. Don't forget you will be blocked if you enter the base, though.

Day 3 Begins!

Sweet.

[falcon45ca]

Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.

I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?

This post is super fake

Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.

Why do you feel the need to address Guillo re: your fake post, rather than LC & his mech outting of you?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I guess I’ll actually read the setup today.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.

I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?

This post is super fake

Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.

Why do you feel the need to address Guillo re: your fake post, rather than LC & his mech outting of you?

Because Guillo actually quoted me and I’m not aware of LC “outting” me.

I’m assuming he’s claiming a block on me or somesuch since my action failed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like…you get notifications when people quote you

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is either going to break the game and it's closing us in on a town win or it's going fuck town over.

Much tension lol

[falcon45ca]

Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.

I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?

This post is super fake

Meh. It’s reasonable for me to ask for mechanical clarification during catch-up to prevent like….isoing a player that is already red checked….which I did the next day.

Why do you feel the need to address Guillo re: your fake post, rather than LC & his mech outting of you?

Because Guillo actually quoted me and I’m not aware of LC “outting” me.

I’m assuming he’s claiming a block on me or somesuch since my action failed.

Like…you get notifications when people quote you

Fair enough.



He is claiming a RB on you, so that's confirmed. What's your role?

[Jackofhearts2005]

i think tbh game is very close to mech locked, no deaths last night with this much info probably wins with mass claim and proper planned actions, but people don't like that sorta stuff

vote: wilgy
for now

Yeah, I don’t like that stuff.

I’ll be Cu Chulainn with a geas to not mass claim and a geas to never be yeeted as town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, I don’t need to claim here at all. I got battle continuation.

Look at my record as a wolf. I’m always the last wolf on my team. I bus without mercy, worrying more about my standing than power wolfing. I double bussed at lylo in my most recent wolf win.

Sabie, much as I’m a fan on a personal level, is not much of a tap dancer. As a wolf, I never spend a bunch of time trying to defend her from a D2 red check.

I’m obviously just town here. :emproofsmugcoffee:

[falcon45ca]

Yeah, I don’t need to claim here at all. I got battle continuation.

Look at my record as a wolf. I’m always the last wolf on my team. I bus without mercy, worrying more about my standing than power wolfing. I double bussed at lylo in my most recent wolf win.

Sabie, much as I’m a fan on a personal level, is not much of a tap dancer. As a wolf, I never spend a bunch of time trying to defend her from a D2 red check.

I’m obviously just town here. :emproofsmugcoffee:

Can confirm you have odd strategies as wolf...I played the game where you literally postponed a wolf win for town cred

[Marmot]

Do my townreads of LP, Mac, LC, Guillo, and sig check out?

[Marmot]

Maybe not Guillo, I dunno. That might just be residual from Day 1.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’ve slept since playing this game.

Townread Marmot, Gav. I think I townread LC for his push on me. Feel like I townread Guillo but I don’t really remember why. Did I scumlean Falcon? Maybe. Will look into that lol.

[Lime Coke]

Am I?

Yes, you are white knighting or pocketing Martin.

Nah, I said it's probably not alignment indicative, that's not defending him, it's more just discrediting you. I can see how you might confuse the two though.

Where did your Sig read go? And Dizzy's legacy that was so important?

Sig would be dead already if i had the power.

What do you care about the importance i place on Dizzy's legacy?

I care more about the scummies who saved Sabie on day 1 than Dizzy's legacy right now tbh.

There has to be scum on that wagon, if the wagon is pure i'd be extremely disappointed.

That why you're voting someone who landed on Sabie, with someone who voted on Seanzie?

Because bussing exists and Gavial is playing anti-town. Because i townread Mac and he does not qualify as saving Sabie like you guys do.
Mac had their vote on Seanzie way before the CFD.

Man, if you're town imma be pissed at this deliberate game throwing.

NotAnAxehole, a man who constantly gamethrows, accusing someone else of game throwing.

Like dude, I have yet to see a game where you didn't game throw. Philo 2 you got vigged Day 2 so that town could actually thrive and win with you out of the way. Literally should've just let Guillo kill you this game.

[Lime Coke]

I’ve slept since playing this game.

Townread Marmot, Gav. I think I townread LC for his push on me. Feel like I townread Guillo but I don’t really remember why. Did I scumlean Falcon? Maybe. Will look into that lol.

Just TMI me town, sounds good.

[Marmot]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.

[Lime Coke]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.

If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently.

[Gavial]

But Marmot is definitely town, there's no reason to bus that hard, and I don't see Marmot pulling that move.

I do.
And that wasn’t even that hard of a Buss when Sabie was already in jeopardy lol and Marmot was in a bad position as well.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’ve slept since playing this game.

Townread Marmot, Gav. I think I townread LC for his push on me. Feel like I townread Guillo but I don’t really remember why. Did I scumlean Falcon? Maybe. Will look into that lol.

Just TMI me town, sounds good.

I just don’t think a wolf comes out at the first page of the day after a no kill night voting for a player they roleblocked.

[Marmot]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.

If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently.

How is he gamethrowing?

[Lime Coke]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.

If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently.

How is he gamethrowing?

Look at his vote.

[Gavial]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

Yes absolutely.
Roles are not AI.

[Lime Coke]

I’ve slept since playing this game.

Townread Marmot, Gav. I think I townread LC for his push on me. Feel like I townread Guillo but I don’t really remember why. Did I scumlean Falcon? Maybe. Will look into that lol.

Just TMI me town, sounds good.

I just don’t think a wolf comes out at the first page of the day after a no kill night voting for a player they roleblocked.

Yeah because he basically red checked him.

[falcon45ca]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

Yes absolutely.
Roles are not AI.

So you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town?

[Marmot]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.

If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently.

How is he gamethrowing?

Look at his vote.

I guess my concern is that you're accusing him of gamethrowing and being town, rather than scumreading him. Could he not be scum in this scenario?

[Gavial]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?

There are two of every role

Yes, I understand that. I didn't know both LC & Dolby had claimed RB.



Do you see town as having 2 RBers? I know you SR LC, so I'll assume not

There’s no reason it can’t Falcon lmao.
If Falcon claims town has 2 snipers if I die and tsp is still alive Falcon Is legitimately open wolfing and if you lose to that your bad. Or at least playing bad.

Because it’s wolfy as all fuck to say town doesn’t have one of one role but can the other. It basically is wolf trying to setup for some nice and juicy ML’s.

I’ll say though the Mindmelt with NAA is a good look for them.

[Marmot]

I’ve slept since playing this game.

Townread Marmot, Gav. I think I townread LC for his push on me. Feel like I townread Guillo but I don’t really remember why. Did I scumlean Falcon? Maybe. Will look into that lol.

Just TMI me town, sounds good.

I just don’t think a wolf comes out at the first page of the day after a no kill night voting for a player they roleblocked.

Yeah because he basically red checked him.

Not a guarantee, but sure.

[Gavial]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole

Ok, so one is town

Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum?

It cant be both town or both scum?

Did you read the setup at all?
There are 2 of each role and they can be any alignment.
Roles are NOT AI.