Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!
I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 amI feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me
Rox what makes you so sure about splints?Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pmGosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!
I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 amI feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me
Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?
FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.
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I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.
The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?
Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.
I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.
Questions/posts I noticed so far:
Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?
Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.
Because the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
Lol the worse I look? Ya dreamin.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmBecause the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't
I just looked through the iso.
It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.
I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.
Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden
Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.
I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
I think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Which 2?Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pmI think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
I wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pmLol the worse I look? Ya dreamin.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmBecause the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't
I just looked through the iso.
It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.
I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.
Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden
Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.
I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
I am ‘echoing every belief Sean has?’ - I sheeped him once to see what came out.
Scotty and FalconKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pmWhich 2?Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pmI think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
LolNeon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:41 pmGolden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pmLol the worse I look? Ya dreamin.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmBecause the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't
I just looked through the iso.
It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.
I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.
Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden
Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.
I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
I am ‘echoing every belief Sean has?’ - I sheeped him once to see what came out.
Let's do itGolden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pmI wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pmOk so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.
That leaves:
Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.
What do you think of that list?
Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.
I disagree. I've agreed with a lot of what Soneji has said and most of the time it feels like there's a civ motivation. Since we seemingly have left it up to Soneji and Falcon, I'm gonna [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
One of the woof roles cancels two votes. We need to get one today. Unless we can come up with tempo people MOST of us agree on.
I’ve done a metric fuckton of analysing and contributing this game.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
Because it gives us no info no competing wagons to read into no reason movement to read into and its far more likely that a consensus kill kills town
this is the meta i was raised in
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit
Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.
But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
Sure I'd consider it.
I'm most certainly talking about Sean the person I've been on for two daysGolden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pmI’ve done a metric fuckton of analysing and contributing this game.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
You don’t agree with my analysis and contribution therefore you think I’m bad.
Do you think contributing should get a pass?
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pmThe fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit
Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.
But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
that's good, to clarify you want the lead wagon to have +3 votes before day ends?
Two votes can be deleted today. Don’t you see that as a problem?
Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pmI don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pmThe fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit
Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.
But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy of these I think the most likely hit is SeanNeon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pmTo go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw dataKate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 amI really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
Splints (1): Bea
Golden (1): Falcon
Roxy (1): Roxy
D2:
Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS
Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji
Golden (1): Sabi
Seanzie (1): Neon
Someji (1): Falcon
Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis
People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata
People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy
I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy
I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.
I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.
Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.
I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty
At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.
I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata
And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.
Is that analysis enough for you Sean?
*sighs*Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
So, I'm town?Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing
I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended
But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
No i don't I think trying to push fear into our solve today is only beneficial to wolfs. If we push one consensus person and they flip town we've gained nothing if we push two wagons and the one with less votes goes over because of vote cancels we have DATA. and we also have a smaller field to read into who's votes were canceled which is also beneficialGolden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pmTwo votes can be deleted today. Don’t you see that as a problem?
I was trying to see if you felt that his behavior would have been different WITH the added pressure of a baddie chatroom. Youre essentially reversing my point.Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pmYeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pmI don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pmThe fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit
Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.
But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.