The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:24 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:10 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:23 pmGod I'm so lost

Explain your mindset to me plz.

I'm trying to find town I can bounce off of and work with. You know my best town game recently was GoC when I had a town core I trusted and just worked exclusively with them.

But I'm struggling here. AM was my top town read them dying really sucks.

I think I'm comfortable with Santy for meh reasons that I trust and I think Zenge Falcon is T v T.

I'm starting to lean town on you for meh reasons to.

let me retract my neon townread due to this and the nested post in the chain

these are the same posts she just wrote as wolf in my game

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:00 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:24 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:10 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:23 pmGod I'm so lost

Explain your mindset to me plz.

I'm trying to find town I can bounce off of and work with. You know my best town game recently was GoC when I had a town core I trusted and just worked exclusively with them.

But I'm struggling here. AM was my top town read them dying really sucks.

I think I'm comfortable with Santy for meh reasons that I trust and I think Zenge Falcon is T v T.

I'm starting to lean town on you for meh reasons to.

let me retract my neon townread due to this and the nested post in the chain

these are the same posts she just wrote as wolf in my game

Yes but this is an awful way to read me because as a wolf I'm hyper aware of my town game and I emulate it very very well.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:01 am Like if you think you're gonna catch me by looking for similar posts in my wolf games your gonna just misexe me a lot frankly. And I'm very tired of being misexed

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:02 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:00 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:24 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:10 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:23 pmGod I'm so lost

Explain your mindset to me plz.

I'm trying to find town I can bounce off of and work with. You know my best town game recently was GoC when I had a town core I trusted and just worked exclusively with them.

But I'm struggling here. AM was my top town read them dying really sucks.

I think I'm comfortable with Santy for meh reasons that I trust and I think Zenge Falcon is T v T.

I'm starting to lean town on you for meh reasons to.

let me retract my neon townread due to this and the nested post in the chain

these are the same posts she just wrote as wolf in my game

Yes but this is an awful way to read me because as a wolf I'm hyper aware of my town game and I emulate it very very well.

cap

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:03 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:01 am Like if you think you're gonna catch me by looking for similar posts in my wolf games your gonna just misexe me a lot frankly. And I'm very tired of being misexed

now there's the town neon i know

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:40 pm I don't have much of a reason to town read SAR but my heart feels like she's town. I don't get why she's so confident on miranda, though.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:25 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.

I have Zenge all but locked town, Santy as a town lean, and you have Falcon locked town. Hmm.
I'm confused where you deduced at least 1 in Seanzie/miranda?

Seems like it would be a good time to clarify why you had MR7 in your townreads when you did your SDN reads.

Because I think he just sounds like himself. As mentioned before, I should not be regarded as a reliable source on him given I didn't want to yeet him either of the times I played with him while he was scumming. He's not a strong town read, more towny side of neutral. And it's hard to further assess when he has the restriction. But someone mentioned him sounding unnatural and imo that is NAI for him. I haven't seen anything that makes him wolfy.
Anyway of the SDNers I think genny/mayo are way more likely to be hits and I'd prefer to go there first.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.

I have Zenge all but locked town, Santy as a town lean, and you have Falcon locked town. Hmm.
I'm confused where you deduced at least 1 in Seanzie/miranda?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:15 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:50 pm Here I will be sheeping Zenge/Psv take on genny

I'm leaning scum on genny at the moment
I do tend to fall into a bias of (relative) high poster genny=town genny. I think that's because when she's around more I can more easily get a grip on her thought process. It's really hard for me to feel her out either way when she's only posted once this cycle and a handful of times fiscal yesterday. But still I feel like the solving energy hasn't been there.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:17 pm @NateTheLesser I would like to know how you feel abouts slots other than Dennis, particularly the likes of Falcon, Marmot, Creature and Mightyrunner7.

I'll be back later, I expect receipts.

Mighty isn't outside of his town meta, his posts always read as carefully crafted. In the last game when he was wolfing I correctly called him out on day one, because he had a habit of picking apart other people's reads without actually offering his own perspective. I haven't seen him do the same thing here. He's relatively new and that's a "tell" that can be fixed, but I lean him town for now. The only thing that gives me pause is his Scotty vote looks bad, both in the wagon position and that his reasoning was pretty much just echoing other people's "role fishing" sus.

Creature is POE because there's no reason for him not to be, I wasn't interested in him yesterday because in my other Syndicate game he low-posted as town so the "volume tell" wasn't convincing for me. But his only votes prior to Scotty were a naked 2nd vote on miranda and a naked 2nd vote on me. He said his miranda vote was because he was least impressed by her on that page, but her only recent content was a day 0 test vote. And that's been about the extent of his solving energy.

Marmot was mostly missing, I remember an early wolf lean of Dennis and then EOD. I didn't really vibe with Marmot's EOD reads, for one thing they were wolfreading me and have carried that into today, and I know that's incorrect. But they were also speculating a Scotty/Santy world, which I thought would be odd positioning to take if they knew Scotty would flip town. But it could have also been a way to place Scotty in a plausible wolf team to justify a vote (which is what Marmot did shortly after).

Falcon/Zenge I have the most turbulence around. I've seen town Zenge make correct pushes that were laser-focused that I didn't understand at all, so I pay attention when he gets this locked in even if I don't completely get it. And I thought falcon was sketchy early on. But the way Z's pushed it has been really twisty, especially his interaction with other people about it when they disagree. And on falcon's end I know he has a scummy playstyle in general, he was misyeeted in the other game I played here. If they were both scum but different factions it'd explain everything tbh

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:10 pm

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:07 pm For now based on my raw impressions

[VOTE: Slooneis] aubergine

Have you read your predecessors ISO? You have the benefit of knowing that it was pure town thought so it would be well advised to at least review it and put some stuck in their reads as Dya is an s-tier town player.

Could you kindly direct me where? I’m mostly caught up but dyas post on slooneis was indirect - in agreement with PSV/pshelty’s reasoning mainly

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:09 am i like psv's analysis of sloonei. I don't necessarily agree with it, I just like the logic she's using to get to her reads rn

light v

I try to respect my predecessor’s views but I’m not finding the slooneis iso you’re mentioning.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:34 am now, to complete my wilgy roleplay, i'll see u guys in 1 week

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:19 am @Lawpy you have to vote in the poll. The vote tags are just for calling out and tracking votes.

Marmot is a better vote than sloonei I feel.

Oh whoops sorry, i’m still looking for a vote tracker here though. Besides end of day screenshots of polls

I’m not opposed to the marmots vote. I’m thinking about that too

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:09 am

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:40 pm I don't have much of a reason to town read SAR but my heart feels like she's town. I don't get why she's so confident on miranda, though.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:25 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.

I have Zenge all but locked town, Santy as a town lean, and you have Falcon locked town. Hmm.
I'm confused where you deduced at least 1 in Seanzie/miranda?

Seems like it would be a good time to clarify why you had MR7 in your townreads when you did your SDN reads.

Because I think he just sounds like himself. As mentioned before, I should not be regarded as a reliable source on him given I didn't want to yeet him either of the times I played with him while he was scumming. He's not a strong town read, more towny side of neutral. And it's hard to further assess when he has the restriction. But someone mentioned him sounding unnatural and imo that is NAI for him. I haven't seen anything that makes him wolfy.
Anyway of the SDNers I think genny/mayo are way more likely to be hits and I'd prefer to go there first.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.

I have Zenge all but locked town, Santy as a town lean, and you have Falcon locked town. Hmm.
I'm confused where you deduced at least 1 in Seanzie/miranda?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:15 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:50 pm Here I will be sheeping Zenge/Psv take on genny

I'm leaning scum on genny at the moment
I do tend to fall into a bias of (relative) high poster genny=town genny. I think that's because when she's around more I can more easily get a grip on her thought process. It's really hard for me to feel her out either way when she's only posted once this cycle and a handful of times fiscal yesterday. But still I feel like the solving energy hasn't been there.

@MacDougall @Sloonei psv is obvwolf right?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:58 am I also ADORED all of Tutuu's reads and am unafraid to sheep the fuck out of Tutuu. Maniac Tutuu deserves to be listened to. Listen to maniac Tutuu.

I'm self banned from reading Neon so nobody is allowed to ask me for that read.

I think if Dennis and Nate are both town then we kill Creature today.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:58 am I also ADORED all of Tutuu's reads and am unafraid to sheep the fuck out of Tutuu. Maniac Tutuu deserves to be listened to. Listen to maniac Tutuu.

I'm self banned from reading Neon so nobody is allowed to ask me for that read.

I think if Dennis and Nate are both town then we kill Creature today.

What's your Neon read ?

miranda920 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:47 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:53 pm But also @miranda920 do you realize that you are calling out people for not voting while... You aren't voting.

I don’t know where I called someone out for not voting? I almost always hold on to my vote unless I’m feeling very certain

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:07 amI... what?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:07 am

miranda920 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:47 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:53 pm But also @miranda920 do you realize that you are calling out people for not voting while... You aren't voting.

I don’t know where I called someone out for not voting? I almost always hold on to my vote unless I’m feeling very certain

LMAO I JUST NOTICED THAT I GOT CONFUSED BY A MAC POST AND THAT WASNT YOU.

Please get a pfp uwu

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:07 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:07 amI... what?

this post is not a post neon writes as w/w with psv (in all worlds of neon and psv's alignments)

neon started this game's day 0 merry posting a lot. bombarded the thread with those posts

neon hates wolfing. in my recent game she was wolfing was playing linkin park songs on repeat in wolfchat - CRAAAAAAAAAAWLINGGGGG INNNN MY SKINNNNNNN, THESE WOUUUUUUUUUNDS THEY WILLLLL NOT HEAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

neon also plays no less than 10 concurrent mafia games at once. not exaggeration. 10

as such, her being so happy at the start of this game, while she was still wolfing in mine and hated it - it points to her being town

she could be mafia who decided to WIM it up this particular game start - sometimes ppl do that. but the most logical thing to think is that neon is just town here, and was relieved to not rand mafia

in ADDITION, i have a secret tell on neon - i wont be outing it so i can LEGALLY CHEAT in mafia games i play with her, as i will have LEVERAGE over her and i wont ever tell her so she cant COUNTER IT

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now, let me see if kate made a read on svs. i cant believe i forgot to check that

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:07 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:07 amI... what?

this post is not a post neon writes as w/w with psv (in all worlds of neon and psv's alignments)

neon started this game's day 0 merry posting a lot. bombarded the thread with those posts

neon hates wolfing. in my recent game she was wolfing was playing linkin park songs on repeat in wolfchat - CRAAAAAAAAAAWLINGGGGG INNNN MY SKINNNNNNN, THESE WOUUUUUUUUUNDS THEY WILLLLL NOT HEAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

neon also plays no less than 10 concurrent mafia games at once. not exaggeration. 10

as such, her being so happy at the start of this game, while she was still wolfing in mine and hated it - it points to her being town

she could be mafia who decided to WIM it up this particular game start - sometimes ppl do that. but the most logical thing to think is that neon is just town here, and was relieved to not rand mafia

in ADDITION, i have a secret tell on neon - i wont be outing it so i can LEGALLY CHEAT in mafia games i play with her, as i will have LEVERAGE over her and i wont ever tell her so she cant COUNTER IT

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now, let me see if kate made a read on svs. i cant believe i forgot to check that

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:15 am I post them in most games, I'll pull a few links for you later.

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:05 am

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:00 am Could you please clarify what you’re referring to as Day 1 noise here?

I'm specifically referring to the initial disagreement between Falcon and Zenge. By "Day 1 noise" I meant something similar to what other people mean when they say "random voting stage". That is, I thought Falcon was just doing his typical game-opening play which would happen regardless of alignment. Zenge's reaction to it looked like a player who'd never seen Falcon before. That was why I chimed in to begin with, and I spent much of the rest of Day 1 trying to reiterate that point.

Falcon has been underwhelming since those opening moments.

I think Falcons’s responses to Zenges push on him is what’s driving the engine for the Zenges tunnel on Falcons and why he kept railing against you for apparently defending Falcons

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:21 pm

Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:15 pm

Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:59 pm For clarity’s sake, I think the first part about being “easy to read” was meant to be a joke.

I guess it wasn’t a joke.

For a player who knows me, and knows me fairly well like Marmot does, I am an easy read.





Or at the very least, Marmot should be able to make his own independent read on my slot. I also noticed that when he responded to my post, he didn't answer my question, and deflected w/ "you get mislynched often"

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:21 am i think if u just go by simple logic - u townread falcon here

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:25 am Aigh I'm catched up. Very glad tutuu us being obvtown, I couldn't get their autograph but I succesfully sneaked in and got a hair from them. And they didn't even notice.

Sneaky snek

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:27 am Don't agree in Nate being town. I think they are capable of doing that post as mafia?
But I do think that V!Nate can make like, a lot of post of that quality of insight and just be a Goat in a way that W!Nate cant replicate


(Tho I only played agaisnt W!Nate one time so shhh)

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:59 pm Wished I had more time for day 1.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:43 pm I don't really have time for this game right now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:19 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:07 pm I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:36 am * Patiently waits for the tuutu townread *