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#2251

I will, but if you want to get a quick start... try just ISOing him and looking at his approach to BC, Enrique and Simon.

He has Enrique as confirmed scum nearly at the very start of the game base on entirely bullsuit reasons, and he never lets up, pursuing it with such certainty. I never thought the case that was being built on Enrique on day zero had much merit, it was so tenuous... but it makes sense to me coming from someone who was technically on his team, knew he was bad, but had no btsc with him... and Greedo was stealing his credits too. Have a look at how fast he jumps on all the Enrique stuff.

BC, on the other hand, he defended.

Simon, he was completely happy to see the lynch go down - but really critical of people while it was in flight. Such an easy way to come out slamming others after the fact. I don't like it all.

And I'll add to his attitude towards those three - Mac said he was anxious and afraid of coming after me because I can be 'mean and belittling'. I think he thought he was aiming straight at a weak spot, there, to get me to back off or piss me off or make ME feel little. In reality, all I see is someone who I don't think is the slightest bit afraid of me coming at him in a way that could be considered 'mean and belittling', and hopefully buying the goodwill of others who see me that way in the process. I found that statement from him to be calculated in the extreme.

Also, @zebra - do you see what I see in terms of trusting elo?

#2252

Also, I'd be up for a llama lynch. Not because I particularly suspect him, just because lynching llamas is fun.

#2253

thellama73 wrote:Hey zebra, can you post fourteen times in a row again? That was awesome.

"If you dont mind I will play my own way and I do not need to be told what I do or do not need to do."

Yup I went there

#2254

Golden wrote:I will, but if you want to get a quick start... try just ISOing him and looking at his approach to BC, Enrique and Simon.

He has Enrique as confirmed scum nearly at the very start of the game base on entirely bullsuit reasons, and he never lets up, pursuing it with such certainty. I never thought the case that was being built on Enrique on day zero had much merit, it was so tenuous... but it makes sense to me coming from someone who was technically on his team, knew he was bad, but had no btsc with him... and Greedo was stealing his credits too. Have a look at how fast he jumps on all the Enrique stuff.

BC, on the other hand, he defended.

Simon, he was completely happy to see the lynch go down - but really critical of people while it was in flight. Such an easy way to come out slamming others after the fact. I don't like it all.

And I'll add to his attitude towards those three - Mac said he was anxious and afraid of coming after me because I can be 'mean and belittling'. I think he thought he was aiming straight at a weak spot, there, to get me to back off or piss me off or make ME feel little. In reality, all I see is someone who I don't think is the slightest bit afraid of me coming at him in a way that could be considered 'mean and belittling', and hopefully buying the goodwill of others who see me that way in the process. I found that statement from him to be calculated in the extreme.

Also, @zebra - do you see what I see in terms of trusting elo?

Okay, some things. Do we know that the other Hutts knew Enrique was on their team? And to be fair, many of us were defending BC. You flip-flopped on him as did MP and myself (all justifiably) so I'm not sure if that's a strong connection. I definitely agree with the Simon point. I don't think I agree with the last point - Mac felt that I was insulting his play style earlier and was also seeing MP as insulting mine earlier still, so I do think he really was concerned about coming after you to that extent. I don't agree that you can be mean and belittling but I don't think I can be that way either, others sometimes think differently, hence the signature disclaimer. So I wouldn't call that statement calculated even if he is bad.

I do not see what you see in terms of trusting Eloh but I'm willing to hear you out, although your coy wordplay here suggests to me that it's role-related stuff that I'm going to have a hard time finding knowing my (lack of) intellect with these types of things. Please tell me it's a direct post that you can point to that makes you trust her without outing her as insert power role here.

#2255

I think llama is civ.

#2256

a2thezebra wrote:Please tell me it's a direct post that you can point to that makes you trust her without outing her as insert power role here.

The most recent lynch post from DH.

#2257

Golden wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Please tell me it's a direct post that you can point to that makes you trust her without outing her as insert power role here.
The most recent lynch post from DH.

Yay I think I get it and I feel smurtur

#2258

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#2259

Yeah, that one. Thanks for helping, DH.

#2260

a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.

Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.

#2261

thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.
Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.

If I was bad then I would benefit from your suspicion because of how hilariously unfounded it is. Same with Blooper, same with Golden.

#2262

a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.
Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.
If I was bad then I would benefit from your suspicion because of how hilariously unfounded it is. Same with Blooper, same with Golden.

Oh, I'm pretty sure it's founded. Real founded.

#2263

thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.
Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.
If I was bad then I would benefit from your suspicion because of how hilariously unfounded it is. Same with Blooper, same with Golden.
Oh, I'm pretty sure it's founded. Real founded.

Do tell. If you wish, of course.

#2264

Golden wrote:I will, but if you want to get a quick start... try just ISOing him and looking at his approach to BC, Enrique and Simon.

He has Enrique as confirmed scum nearly at the very start of the game base on entirely bullsuit reasons, and he never lets up, pursuing it with such certainty. I never thought the case that was being built on Enrique on day zero had much merit, it was so tenuous... but it makes sense to me coming from someone who was technically on his team, knew he was bad, but had no btsc with him... and Greedo was stealing his credits too. Have a look at how fast he jumps on all the Enrique stuff.

BC, on the other hand, he defended.

Simon, he was completely happy to see the lynch go down - but really critical of people while it was in flight. Such an easy way to come out slamming others after the fact. I don't like it all.

And I'll add to his attitude towards those three - Mac said he was anxious and afraid of coming after me because I can be 'mean and belittling'. I think he thought he was aiming straight at a weak spot, there, to get me to back off or piss me off or make ME feel little. In reality, all I see is someone who I don't think is the slightest bit afraid of me coming at him in a way that could be considered 'mean and belittling', and hopefully buying the goodwill of others who see me that way in the process. I found that statement from him to be calculated in the extreme.

Also, @zebra - do you see what I see in terms of trusting elo?

Holy shit that is so unfair. I called him legit as scum on day 1. You say bullshit. I say, genius. So screw you for reducing my legit genius to bullshit.

#2265

But what if it's bullshit AND genius, Mac?

#2266

Hey, its legit genius either way. Never let me accuse you of not being good at this game.

#2267

a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.
Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.
If I was bad then I would benefit from your suspicion because of how hilariously unfounded it is. Same with Blooper, same with Golden.
Oh, I'm pretty sure it's founded. Real founded.
Do tell. If you wish, of course.

Classic thread steering. Classic overposting to drown out everyone else. Classic overdefensiveness. Classic mafia tells.

#2268

thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think llama is civ.
Trying to buddy up to me to keep me from suspecting you?

Nice try.
If I was bad then I would benefit from your suspicion because of how hilariously unfounded it is. Same with Blooper, same with Golden.
Oh, I'm pretty sure it's founded. Real founded.
Do tell. If you wish, of course.
Classic thread steering. Classic overposting to drown out everyone else. Classic overdefensiveness. Classic mafia tells.

I was hoping for something more specific but okay. And isn't "mafia tells" redundant after the first three which are all mafia tells?

#2269

Classic llama.

#2270

What about Blooper and Golden? Are they as classic baddies as I?

#2271

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA

#2272

How does my behaviour around the Simon lynch misalign with anything I was saying at the time? I wanted to produce other content because the Simon lynchwagon was on track for being yet another day wasted even if he flipped scum. So I started a fight with you and MP because, hell if we're going to just sit on a lynch wagon all day might as well be honest about who is pinging me right? I'm the one bitching about there being fuck all content, so let me be the first to cast the stone and see if I can ruffle some feathers.

I didn't know he was going to flip civ. I thought he was an almost certainty to flip Hutt. If you want people to look at weird shit around the lynch what's with all the people who actually didn't vote him? I know I said earlier that the people on his wagon looked bad but that was when I thought he was going to flip Hutt and I still expect that's where the Empire are. Early on his wagon to get their vote on and take the day off. Like you were trying to do. I expect the remaining Hutts didn't have their vote on him at all. He looked dead set scum and yet 5 or 6 players found a way not to have their vote on him. We'll find a bad guy in that group I reckon.

In actuality how the fuck is it even possible for me to know he was going to flip civ? What if he flips Empire? See this is the sort of crap I don't expect to come out of your mouth. Your cases lack the genuine insight and depth that they have in the previous games I've seen you play. You are forcing me to point out things I know you are capable of understanding without it. Do you really believe that if I was scum, after being part of the group that pointed out his inconsistent voting (actually I was probably the first to do that) and being the first person to shade Enrique, that I would then wishy washy back off Simon when his lynch was almost certain? That is really underplaying my skill as scum Golden. Really really. I'd have been first on his lynch wagon just like I was first on Enrique's.

And let me elaborate on the whole mean/belittling thing. I don't like calling certain types of players scum off my gut reads. I don't particularly mind pissing people off and offending people, but civ or scum there are certain players I prefer not to engage like that until I have formulated more than a gut scum read because of how much content they are capable of producing in quick time to bury me in shit. You and Zebra fall into that category because your reactions give me anxiety. Sometimes you've been rational (but even in the Dune game you dropped the calm act and became angry Golden sometimes) and I expect you would do exactly what you did and that's just pile layers of OMGUS onto me because of it. I do it too. I know the type. It's me. But, Zebra asked me to be honest and the day was being wasted so here we are, with you OMGUSing the shit out of me (and yes, you are OMGUSing me, you had a civ read on me before).

I defended bcornett because he looked genuine and was nowhere near my radar. Your case against him was something that did not even occur to me and right up until his flip I had no idea. If I was his teammate and I was trying to bus Enrique (his other teammate) and it became apparent that bcornett was getting lynched instead... I don't even know what I would have done. Probably what I did in fairness.

Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.

#2273

a2thezebra wrote:But what if it's bullshit AND genius, Mac?

It's not. Just genius.

#2274

MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:But what if it's bullshit AND genius, Mac?
It's not. Just genius.

#2275

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:But what if it's bullshit AND genius, Mac?
It's not. Just genius.

The scarecrow walks at midnight Zebra.

#2276

MacDougall wrote:Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.

Not necessarily. I'll admit, I expected you to have this sorted already, it is part of why I've suspected your going after me isn't genuine. So, could it be that you did already have it sorted and this is a good way to get me to back off? Yes. It could also be exactly as you say that you have actually just put it together now. I don't see this particular statement as being particularly persuasive one way or the other.

#2277

MacDougall wrote:And let me elaborate on the whole mean/belittling thing. I don't like calling certain types of players scum off my gut reads. I don't particularly mind pissing people off and offending people, but civ or scum there are certain players I prefer not to engage like that until I have formulated more than a gut scum read because of how much content they are capable of producing in quick time to bury me in shit. You and Zebra fall into that category because your reactions give me anxiety. Sometimes you've been rational (but even in the Dune game you dropped the calm act and became angry Golden sometimes) and I expect you would do exactly what you did and that's just pile layers of OMGUS onto me because of it. I do it too. I know the type. It's me. But, Zebra asked me to be honest and the day was being wasted so here we are, with you OMGUSing the shit out of me (and yes, you are OMGUSing me, you had a civ read on me before).

I never had a civ read on you, Mac.

Underlined explains why I said I did. I know exactly what you are getting at. I think you and I work very similarly.

#2278

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.
Not necessarily. I'll admit, I expected you to have this sorted already, it is part of why I've suspected your going after me isn't genuine. So, could it be that you did already have it sorted and this is a good way to get me to back off? Yes. It could also be exactly as you say that you have actually just put it together now. I don't see this particular statement as being particularly persuasive one way or the other.

Lol what am I supposed to be a telepath? It was only posts on the very last page that made me put 2 and 2 together.

Linki: I don't believe that at all.

#2279

IlikeAC

#2280

Wilgy you drunk bellend, engage Doctor mode.

#2281

Matt wrote:Btw, I haven't reread the thread yet, but I did ISO Bcornett because I noticed Salacious Crumb, his minion, was required to amuse Jabba each day. Looking for Jabba to be amused, I ISO'd bcornett and saw on Day 1, bcornett put out a "lol" over Black Rock thinking G2H meant "go to hell" as opposed to it's real meaning, "gun to head". However, bcornett gave his "lol" to Golden correcting Black Rock, so I'm not sure which one would be Crumb, if that was even why he laughed in the first place.

Not that that means jack, but I found it interesting. More then likely that part of Crumb's role is something else, but why not share right?

PULL

I think this is a way good catch Matthew. Way good.

#2282

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Anyways... I think while I was writing this I kind of worked something out that makes me rethink my suspicion of you at all. You'll probably take that as me backing off like a pussy but if you actually know me you know that's not me. I actually think I know what your dealio is now and I don't think you're bad.
Not necessarily. I'll admit, I expected you to have this sorted already, it is part of why I've suspected your going after me isn't genuine. So, could it be that you did already have it sorted and this is a good way to get me to back off? Yes. It could also be exactly as you say that you have actually just put it together now. I don't see this particular statement as being particularly persuasive one way or the other.
Lol what am I supposed to be a telepath? It was only posts on the very last page that made me put 2 and 2 together.

Linki: I don't believe that at all.

If I thought you were civ at the time you called me out, trust me when I say you would not have gotten an OMGUS.

That's the difference between my reaction to you in Dune and in this game.

Posts on the last page?

of my iso or the game thread?

#2283

bcornett24 wrote:
Golden wrote:I've actually felt the vibe is generally been ok in this game.

But, never mind the cute baby animals, my 'fun vibe' in this game will continue to be Star Wars memes.

Like this:

(No, thats not a role hint)
lol, love it

Hey Matt. Check out who made bcornett lol with a weird meme.

Golden, you're caught.

#2284

Golden sayeth my reasons for suspecting enrique were bullshit. Turns out you bussed bcornett.

#2285

WTF? Two seconds ago you said you worked out what my dealio was and that I wasn't bad.

#2286

Docotr mode. That was supposed to say I like Mac

#2287

Golden wrote:WTF? Two seconds ago you said you worked out what my dealio was and that I wasn't bad.

That's your defense?

#2288

MacDougall wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:
Golden wrote:I've actually felt the vibe is generally been ok in this game.

But, never mind the cute baby animals, my 'fun vibe' in this game will continue to be Star Wars memes.

Like this:

(No, thats not a role hint)
lol, love it
Hey Matt. Check out who made bcornett lol with a weird meme.

Golden, you're caught.

Hahaha, what a funny story Mac

But really, even Matt who pointed this out didn't think the lol thing wasn't anywhere near a guarantee. Maybe if Golden had already pinged me a thousand times it would raise an eyebrow but on its own it ain't shit IMO

#2289

You used to call me on your memephone

#2290

*was anywhere

#2291

Let's summarise.

Jabba's court jester is required to amuse him every day to activate some secrets...

Golden on two separate occasions acquired a "lol" from Brian. One with a mightly unusual from Golden meme post.

Golden identified Brian as scum with a very unusual line of thought.

Looks pretty bad for you right?

Zebra is your other teammate.

#2292

MacDougall wrote:Golden sayeth my reasons for suspecting enrique were bullshit. Turns out you bussed bcornett.

Sure.

Then I bussed enrique too. And when people said Simon was the more obvious choice, and defended Enrique's vote timing, I was the one explaining why I found Enrique MORE suspicious.

At a time when there was really no need to bus either of them.

Great teammate I am

@Mac - you see why I have trouble believing your views on me are civ motivated? You change your mind at the drop of a pin. You go back and forth faster than a pendulum with parkinsons.

If you want to push for my lynch tomorrow, I'm actually fine with it. I really only wanted to play this game for the fun of the theme - the memes etc. I've made lots of memes and lots of jokes and lots of people have laughed at them... including, apparently, BC. You lynching me would not be the end of the world, for me.

But if you do lynch me tomorrow, you have to come sign up for RYM 91 as penance for being wrong, ok?

#2293

MacDougall wrote:One with a mightly unusual from Golden meme post.

Anyone feel like isoing all the memes I've done this game? Including after brian died...

#2294

Lol@Zebra descending from the clouds like Golden's angel the minute something legit makes him look bad with a complete denial of something that's very very revealing.

#2295

MacDougall wrote:Let's summarise.

Jabba's court jester is required to amuse him every day to activate some secrets...

Golden on two separate occasions acquired a "lol" from Brian. One with a mightly unusual from Golden meme post.

Golden identified Brian as scum with a very unusual line of thought.

Looks pretty bad for you right?

Zebra is your other teammate.

You're high.

#2296

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Golden sayeth my reasons for suspecting enrique were bullshit. Turns out you bussed bcornett.
Sure.

Then I bussed enrique too. And when people said Simon was the more obvious choice, and defended Enrique's vote timing, I was the one explaining why I found Enrique MORE suspicious.

At a time when there was really no need to bus either of them.

Great teammate I am

@Mac - you see why I have trouble believing your views on me are civ motivated? You change your mind at the drop of a pin. You go back and forth faster than a pendulum with parkinsons.

If you want to push for my lynch tomorrow, I'm actually fine with it. I really only wanted to play this game for the fun of the theme - the memes etc. I've made lots of memes and lots of jokes and lots of people have laughed at them... including, apparently, BC. You lynching me would not be the end of the world, for me.

But if you do lynch me tomorrow, you have to come sign up for RYM 91 as penance for being wrong, ok?

LMAO you just squashed every typical caught scum reaction into one post.

#2297

Wilgy can you please analyse this recent turn of events.

#2298

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Let's summarise.

Jabba's court jester is required to amuse him every day to activate some secrets...

Golden on two separate occasions acquired a "lol" from Brian. One with a mightly unusual from Golden meme post.

Golden identified Brian as scum with a very unusual line of thought.

Looks pretty bad for you right?

Zebra is your other teammate.
You're high.

I'm high? I notice how you don't call me bad or wrong, just high. Sick answer.

I actually have you on the same team without this, your defense of him is cool.

#2299

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Golden sayeth my reasons for suspecting enrique were bullshit. Turns out you bussed bcornett.
Sure.

Then I bussed enrique too. And when people said Simon was the more obvious choice, and defended Enrique's vote timing, I was the one explaining why I found Enrique MORE suspicious.

At a time when there was really no need to bus either of them.

Great teammate I am

@Mac - you see why I have trouble believing your views on me are civ motivated? You change your mind at the drop of a pin. You go back and forth faster than a pendulum with parkinsons.

If you want to push for my lynch tomorrow, I'm actually fine with it. I really only wanted to play this game for the fun of the theme - the memes etc. I've made lots of memes and lots of jokes and lots of people have laughed at them... including, apparently, BC. You lynching me would not be the end of the world, for me.

But if you do lynch me tomorrow, you have to come sign up for RYM 91 as penance for being wrong, ok?

No, because I think this point is scathing against you and your "who me?" reaction and Zebra appearing from the aethyr to defend you makes you both look very bad.

#2300

MacDougall wrote:Wilgy can you please analyse this recent turn of events.

Mac im drunk as fuck thats a bad idea

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