Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Nah. I was pretty wishy washy on wanting to lynch Vomps, actually.rabbit8 wrote:Canucklehead wrote:Why?rabbit8 wrote:Canucklehead wrote:WOT= wall of text
I'm starting to wonder about you.
Because you have been wishy washy about everything all game and not really invested in finding baddies. Then out of no where you really want to lynch Vomps.
golden 
Epignosis wrote:Enrique. Turnip Head
Daddy's back.
So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
I hate being one-upped. Unless I'm Mario.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
Canucklehead wrote:Nah. I was pretty wishy washy on wanting to lynch Vomps, actually.rabbit8 wrote:Canucklehead wrote:Why?rabbit8 wrote:Canucklehead wrote:WOT= wall of text
I'm starting to wonder about you.
Because you have been wishy washy about everything all game and not really invested in finding baddies. Then out of no where you really want to lynch Vomps.
Canucklehead wrote:I didn't say I didn't find it suspicious, I said the case didn't stick in my head. Which is true. Nothing is sticking in me head right now, because my entire brain is utterly saturated with crippling anxiety and fear of failure because I have a career-defining series of examinations beginning in two weeks.Long Con wrote:You don't find it suspicious that Epignosis would ignore what he knows about MM and BR and instead go for the easy lynch of Metalmarsh? What he knew should have led him to believe Metalmarsh was being framed, except the thing is, Epig was doing the framing. Not to mention, the italicized portion sounds suspiciously like what LizKeen heard through the ear tubes, AND it sounds like something Epig would say. Cocky and believing people can be easily led.Canucklehead wrote:Yes, that is all I have to say about Epi right now. None of the cases brought against him have stuck in my mind enough for me to comment on them.Long Con wrote:That's all you have to say about Epig? What about other cases that have been made against him?Canucklehead wrote:I thought Epi's case on LK was....not convincing, but I'm not sure why a bad Epi would push so hard against a player so early....considering a vote there.
LC is LC and I have no particular reason to think he's bad right now, but I don't know if I've ever read LC correctly. I'm not voting there unless something really compelling comes up.
I want to understand why no one else can see this. Is it that they don't believe that Epig knew that it was VERY unlikely that Metalmarsh would kill BR on Night one for the third or fourth time in recent history? I did quote something in my original case that clearly indicated that Epig was involved - Donner Mafia, Epig tells MM that he killed him for BR. And believe me when I say that I know every detail of this subject due to BR being my wife. I know what happened, what Epig knows, how MM felt about it. This is the truth, I just need enough people to see it and understand what it means.
But now that you've very kindly reiterated your points: I mean, I guess what you're seeing as damning isn't quite as evocative to me. I'll take your word for it that the whole MM/BR rivalry is something that Epi is aware of, even acutely so. I guess where I don't quite buy your argument is that knowing that MM would be very unlikely to kill BR does not mean that other people on MM's team might have overruled him. I mean, obviously this WASN'T the case (since MM was good), but prior to that revelation I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for someone to simultaneously believe that MM would not personally vote to kill BR, but could still be a member of a team that would do so.
I guess maybe because I'm not as intimately involved with the details and intricacies of the BR/MM/Epi triangle that his willingness to vote MM just didn't set off alarms bells like it does for you. But I'm not discounting your assertion here, it's just not one I would have come to on my own. I actually also feel uneasy about Epi, so your insights are interesting.
Mostly, though, I want to lynch Vomps.
S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, You remind me of a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow into a pot of gold, with a fucking unicorn. You are that awesome!
You make me want to be a better person. Youmake arrogant look like a positive thing
I know this is a joke. But you lay it out there nicely. I think you're trying to persuade a few people.Canucklehead wrote:Yes. Being Vomps is a serious crime.Long Con wrote:Vomps' crime is being Vomps, right? Not contributing much, acting weird? Low posting?
This is not a 180 after you have already declared you want to lynch him and that being him is a serious crime. You throw in the I think there's a 50/50 chance he's a civ. I makes you look wishy washy like you have been trying to portray this game. But your posts before this one prove this one is complete bullshit.Canucklehead wrote:I'm going to do (another) 180 and vote for Vomps.
I reread Epi's case on LK, and while I still didn't find it convincing, I can't come up with a scenario where it would be beneficial for baddie Epi to go hard against a player that (until he and Golden mentioned her) didn't seem to be on anyone's radar.
I'm not sure that I'm un-suspicious of Epi, but I'd rather not vote for him today since I can't really ask him to clarify some things about his LK case and LC's comments on the MM lynch while he's cursed.
I'll vote Vomps, though I think it's a 50/50 chance he's a civ.
Bye AP and welcome back MM! 
Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.
I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
I had no idea thhat this would happen.Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?
juliets wrote:So I guess SVS is under a spell where she has to praise Epi profusely. I wonder how many times she has to do this. Hopefully not many.
Indeed. I wonder if she's allowed to comment on other things though?rabbit8 wrote:juliets wrote:So I guess SVS is under a spell where she has to praise Epi profusely. I wonder how many times she has to do this. Hopefully not many.
Convenient.
bwt have you put a case forth on her? I looked but all I found was you questioning her about her vomps vote. Are you looking to vote for her today because she voted vomps? I just want to make sure I am not missing anything.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Indeed. I wonder if she's allowed to comment on other things though?rabbit8 wrote:juliets wrote:So I guess SVS is under a spell where she has to praise Epi profusely. I wonder how many times she has to do this. Hopefully not many.
Convenient.
Still looking at voting for her today anyway.
That's part of it. I think her 180 on going from Zomba to Vomps the way she did is very insincere. I think she was trying to save a teammate. There's also the quote (can't remember where) where she said something along the lines of Zomba being bad means that Vomps is neither bad nor good (I'd go find the quote for better context). And I feel like she won't give a direct answer when I questioned her on what that means. Especially considering she voted for Vomps.juliets wrote:bwt have you put a case forth on her? I looked but all I found was you questioning her about her vomps vote. Are you looking to vote for her today because she voted vomps? I just want to make sure I am not missing anything.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Indeed. I wonder if she's allowed to comment on other things though?rabbit8 wrote:juliets wrote:So I guess SVS is under a spell where she has to praise Epi profusely. I wonder how many times she has to do this. Hopefully not many.
Convenient.
Still looking at voting for her today anyway.
I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?
Are you calling me gay?S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, You remind me of a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow into a pot of gold, with a fucking unicorn.
How?Epignosis wrote:I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?
"Amazeballs" isn't really a word.S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, you are a Mafia God. Everyone, especially me, is in awe of you. I am humbled by the total amazeballs that is you. Very seriously, no orange involved.
Do you really want me to answer that? You've been quite obvious.Elohcin wrote:How?Epignosis wrote:I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?
RIP Golden. I was excited to actually get to rejoin the action with you only to see you die.Golden wrote:I'm not surprised to have died, in fact I kind of expected it tbh. Good luck civs!
I don't think you should out me if that's what you mean. But I have no clue how I have been "obvious" or how you could know my role.Epignosis wrote:Do you really want me to answer that? You've been quite obvious.Elohcin wrote:How?Epignosis wrote:I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Who used to be a sockface.Epignosis wrote:So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.
For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?
No. I don't want to do that. But you've been obvious.Elohcin wrote:I don't think you should out me if that's what you mean. But I have no clue how I have been "obvious" or how you could know my role.
Lol. This is becoming a thing!Metalmarsh89 wrote:RIP Golden. I was excited to actually get to rejoin the action with you only to see you die.Golden wrote:I'm not surprised to have died, in fact I kind of expected it tbh. Good luck civs!
I honestly don't know why we would want to or why we wouldn't. I am on the fence about him.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey Eloh, why don't we lynch Epignosis today?
No, but I'm pretty sure he works nights so he probably hasn't been home since this day phase started.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Has LC post at all this day phase?
*Relieved* I also hate all those things. Except I'm not a big beer drinker.Epignosis wrote:There are lots of things I hate. Government. Being out of beer. The media obsession with asses (literal and otherwise). Beets.
You, my dear, would have a hard time making that list.
Because I thought Golden was trying to twist my words. But you're right, I could calm down some.Dom wrote:Why are you being so defensive?
Deflection from voting Epi. Maybe avoidance is a better word.Dom wrote:I usually say it as a funny way to spell "what".LizKeen wrote:Can someone tell me what "WOT" means? Way Off Topic? post WithOut Teeth?
Defection onto what?LizKeen wrote: Epi, do you hate me? I hope not, I'm really not a terrible person but this is a game and players gotta play. But I'm seeing a lot of "well Epi might be bad but I'm not sure yet". Feels like deflection from voting him.
Thank you!Canucklehead wrote:WOT= wall of text
I do agree with LC that this is an odd thing to say after MM said it was he who caused Epi's affirmative answers. And your explanations aren't really making sense to me.juliets wrote:LC, I just noticed that one of your issues with Epi is he looks as if he had a curse on him to answer questions with a "yes" which you think is possible he made up. I think I can prove he didn't make it up. I chose a rare book as an item and the book had the power to make people say "yes" to questions asked of them. I really didn't see how that was useful because I thought people would see through it but anyway it got stolen from me. I believe it was used on Epi.
So it wouldn't work for you when you had it but it gets stolen and works?juliets wrote:You're right LC, I didn't think of it that way. I double checked my spreadsheet and it was stolen night one. I double checked the pm on the item and it was definitely that the receiver has to say yes to every action. But maybe this is relevant - when I asked about it I was told it didn't do anything right now (back then). I don't understand really what that meant, not that I wanted to use it then. Maybe it had to be stolen to activate? Anyway, the fact that it left me night one appears to be a stumbling block to it having been used on Epi. Which I guess means its still out there to be used by someone else.
He had no reason to lie. You "guess" he was? Sounds like you're trying to cover up your own slips.juliets wrote:I read that he said that and I read that you repeated it. I didn't think he was telling the truth when he said it but since he was good I guess he was. I'm not sure why you are saying I didn't. This post was to close out our discussion on the rare book.Long Con wrote:Juliets, I don't think you're reading the thread closely enough. I just told you that MEtalmarsh claimed responsibility for Epig's Affirmative Curse on Day Two. Your rare book is not directly relevant to Epig's curse, as far as I can see.juliets wrote:You're right LC, I didn't think of it that way. I double checked my spreadsheet and it was stolen night one. I double checked the pm on the item and it was definitely that the receiver has to say yes to every action. But maybe this is relevant - when I asked about it I was told it didn't do anything right now (back then). I don't understand really what that meant, not that I wanted to use it then. Maybe it had to be stolen to activate? Anyway, the fact that it left me night one appears to be a stumbling block to it having been used on Epi. Which I guess means its still out there to be used by someone else.
Aren't you contradicting yourself here? I don't think LC is twisting your words, I think you are.juliets wrote:I thought it was likely one of his jokey posts, especially since i thought I knew that the rare book was the item that caused the "yes" curse, not a bottle.Long Con wrote:Why didn't you think Metalmarsh was telling the truth? He explained Epig's weird responses and claimed responsibility for it with his Item, the Bottle. I thought it was pretty cut-and-dry.juliets wrote:I didn't think [Metalmarsh] was telling the truth when he said [he used the Bottle on Epig and caused the Affirmative Curse] but since he was good I guess he was. I'm not sure why you are saying I didn't. This post was to close out our discussion on the rare book.
Epignosis wrote:Are you calling me gay?S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, You remind me of a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow into a pot of gold, with a fucking unicorn.
Elohcin wrote:I honestly don't know why we would want to or why we wouldn't. I am on the fence about him.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey Eloh, why don't we lynch Epignosis today?
But it is an interesting observation and something to keep in mind. DP, who are your suspects?
