The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:40 pm I’d be happy killing drago too tbh I forgot he was ostensibly playing

Think we should wait a day on g-man, feels bad to kill him while he can’t really talk properly since he hasn’t really been overtly scummy imo

Why drago?

Pretty sure there’s two scum in the day one non-entities, i.e. tranq drago Colin and g-man

I’d kill any of them, mac, or SVS right now

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:09 am What's the deal with you and SVS?
I don't see a reason to vote for her.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:11 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:40 pm I’d be happy killing drago too tbh I forgot he was ostensibly playing

Think we should wait a day on g-man, feels bad to kill him while he can’t really talk properly since he hasn’t really been overtly scummy imo

Why drago?

Pretty sure there’s two scum in the day one non-entities, i.e. tranq drago Colin and g-man

I’d kill any of them, mac, or SVS right now

Okay but what makes you think that?
Ditto dom’s question about SVS. I maintain a town read on her, but I’m open to differing opinions.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:11 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:40 pm I’d be happy killing drago too tbh I forgot he was ostensibly playing

Think we should wait a day on g-man, feels bad to kill him while he can’t really talk properly since he hasn’t really been overtly scummy imo

Why drago?

Pretty sure there’s two scum in the day one non-entities, i.e. tranq drago Colin and g-man

I’d kill any of them, mac, or SVS right now

Okay but what makes you think that?
Ditto dom’s question about SVS. I maintain a town read on her, but I’m open to differing opinions.

Scum have incentive not to draw attention/not play much D1 in this setup

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:20 am Cross kills

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:23 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:20 am Cross kills

Makes sense.

But if we’re talking about “keeping a low profile”, I feel like Drago and Tranq don’t really fit; they’ve simply been absent (I think). G-man and speedchuck would be the names that better fit the model of “coasting”.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:23 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:20 am Cross kills

Makes sense.

But if we’re talking about “keeping a low profile”, I feel like Drago and Tranq don’t really fit; they’ve simply been absent (I think). G-man and speedchuck would be the names that better fit the model of “coasting”.

I agree on one of those names, lol

Very few people here are going to kill a lurker D1 or NK them, yeah?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:36 am I mean in the 4 games I’ve played here every time a lurker TK is brought up it gets some serious side eye and a healthy dose of “must be lazy scum not wanting to push an active player,” lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:47 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:36 am I mean in the 4 games I’ve played here every time a lurker TK is brought up it gets some serious side eye and a healthy dose of “must be lazy scum not wanting to push an active player,” lol

Well I wasn’t town in any of those games, and I’m the best and and most open minded civilian player on the site, objectively and officially speaking. I accept your proposal of lynching a low poster as a viable strategy for this game moving forward. :signofthecross emoji:

Now whether or not it’s the best strategy at any given moment is a different story. I still think we have a good amount of legitimately suspicious content in this thread.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:49 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:47 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:36 am I mean in the 4 games I’ve played here every time a lurker TK is brought up it gets some serious side eye and a healthy dose of “must be lazy scum not wanting to push an active player,” lol

Well I wasn’t town in any of those games, and I’m the best and and most open minded civilian player on the site, objectively and officially speaking. I accept your proposal of lynching a low poster as a viable strategy for this game moving forward. :signofthecross emoji:

Now whether or not it’s the best strategy at any given moment is a different story. I still think we have a good amount of legitimately suspicious content in this thread.

I mean I’m voting for mac, so obviously I don’t disagree with you

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:49 am Anyone around?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Mac is town, this quote is exhibit A

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:57 am What's up?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:43 pm Stuff in Sabie's ISO:

I know it's a lot, but I would appreciate it if someone took a look. Only need to follow my comments and what I highlight.

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Her very first two posts are "I'll catch up later"-posts. I especially don't like the putting off things when she also mentions she's excited for this game in the first post. And there's a lot of what reads like excuses in her ISO, highlighted in cyan:

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:28 pm Hey guys I didn't realize we started yet sorry about that. Looks like I have a lot to catch up on already. I'm excited for this game!

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:41 am I finally had a chance to actually read through the champion game set up and the past few pages before going back to sleep.phone is dying so I'll check back in in the morning with some thoughts so far.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:05 am Hey svs! it's been awhile since we've been in a game together.
I see the votes on jack and I'm not sure. I thought i had a good idea of Jack's gameplay but I've been wrong a couple times. I feel like he tries really hard to blend in and look civ when he's bad and has been a more aggressive and jokey player when civ. He accused nutella in another game and ended up getting mislynched early on and was right about her. Nutella can be difficult to read at times but I have been able to read her correctly before. When I have more time later I'll have to read through their ISOs

Nanook was bad last game I played in and he was good at seeming like a civilian for awhile. I actually only started suspecting him towards the end. I haven't had a chance to look over his civ gameplay style to see if it is similar.
I saw JJJ put me in the bottom part of the reads when I haven't even done anything yet or is it because I haven't done anything yet? I didn't even know the game had started and it's a lot to catch up on. I'm not super talkative in the beginning of games sometimes but I'm trying to get better at it.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:32 pm Oh right yeah sorry it was tony who also suspected nutella that game that got mislynched. Then I told everyone hey maybe they were right about nutella and she ended up being bad. Point is this seemed like a similar situation.


I'm heading home from work now and I'll catch up on what's been happening the last 8 hours. Haven't had a chance to read everything yet.

Here's the posts that Sabie talks about Radish.
Sabie talks a lot about Jack/Nut, but very little about Radish. These two posts are the only on I can find that she even mentions Radish.
And what she says is Belgian waffle. Highlighted in pink:

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:17 pm I finally just got through everything I missed.
Sorry ever since my surgery my processing speed is a little slow so it does take me some time to read and process and understand everything. I'm not ATEing or whatever just letting people who aren't super familiar with me know that's why I'm not as quick to respond sometimes. I am trying to keep up as best as I can and respond to things as they come up.
I saw that dizzy was questioning me because of my slow start but I'm just not as talkative in the beginning of games.

I'm not sure what to think about the jack and nutella dynamic. I know Jack always jokes around about being unlynchable. If jack is bad I wonder what would be his motivation to go after nutella so intensely because if she flips town then that just makes him look bad. Nutella does also bring up a good point that jack sometimes will change his mind at the last minute and say he was just trying to see how people respond to it. I'll have to look back at that other game because it does remind me of that and jack had been right. Jack claims he has been right about nutella multiple times does anyone know of another example besides the Australian game?

Nanook almost had me fooled in all my circuits. He is good at seeming like town when he's not. I feel like he has been kind of aggressive in some points I am never a fan of calling people idiots or anything like that.
I don't know master radishes I'm not familiar with them and I missed where the case began on them. I saw some people saying it had to do with their usage of certain terms?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:44 am I feel bad for colin in that I feel like people often don't get me either but his ISO doesn't make me feel good about him. He doesn't seem to be interested in keeping up with what's going on and trying to figure things out. He asked about jack and then didn't give any further thoughts on it.

Does TH always have short responses and ask other people to make reads for him? I know I've played with him before but I don't remember. I feel like he's been kind of providing reads without much explanation and asking others to tell him why someone is scummy.

Nanook has had a big change in his tone since coming back so he must be excited about the role he got. I don't know if that's a good thing or not because he seems like he was hoping to be mafia but could just be a more exciting role. I find it weird he made it a point to point out he didn't get a mafia role.

I don't know if I've seen a bad jay before? I thought he looked like his usual self and getting discussion going and making reads. Is he different when he's bad?

Good to see sloonei seems back to his usual self. Just has to start asking more questions and have more long ISO posts and we got the old sloonei back. (Glad you're feeling better) good post on radishes I'm not familiar with them and they don't seem to be familiar with a lot of people here either so that's a good point.

Like, what does these posts about Radish say?
sabie12 What is your opinion on Radish? Should he be lynched or no?


Other posts I don't like, and why:

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:14 pmYou played one game with me that I can recall and you were mafia and I told everyone you were but no one believed me and then you killed me night one.

I'm terrible at day 1 reads and usually take a little while to get momentum going and be more involved. My playstyle doesn't make sense to some people but I still win games so I must be doing something right.

^Here she's referencing a game where she read me correctly as scum on D1 and says that she's terrible at D1 reads.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:16 pmSure so I'm not always as good at reading nutella as you claim to be. I thought she seemed similar this game to how she was in the Australian game with her responses to being suspected. I recall she strongly defended herself and threw suspicions in all other directions to see if it would stick. I thought that was kind of how she was reacting here. I think I've mostly seen nutella be mafia or indie in the last few games I've played with her though so that's what I'm used to seeing.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:10 pm @sabie12 I see a lot of things about nutella in your posts, but it's not clear why you voted her. Gimme the scoop.

Ive explained that I thought her playstyle was similar to what I've been seeing when she was mafia before. I'm also not the only one who suspected her. I also thought I had time to delve further into it before end of day.

^When she talks about Nut and votes her it reads both waffly and like she's distancing herself from the read or like she's trying to not be responsible for it.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:02 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:57 am What's up?

We're rescuing Mac from getting wreckt

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Mac is town, this quote is exhibit A

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:54 am I will explain it after someone attempts to interpret what I mean

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:17 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

idgi

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:20 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:17 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

idgi

you said essentially the same thing one post before mine (I got caught in linki), so I think you do get it...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:24 am I'm not ignoring you dude I just already explained what I meant and you still don't get it so idk how to help you...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Why would baddie Mac express a strong townread on nutella and then flip flop just as soon? Why would a bad guy do that? It's a townie maneuever, just like your exact opposite flip flop was (I assume) townie.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:31 amYou bad

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:31 amYou bad

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:34 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:31 amYou bad

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:34 am Turnip-- Colin is suddenly out of the game, who do you lynch and why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:36 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:34 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:31 amYou bad

Read on Turbup, go

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle