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Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am
by TonyStarkPrime
We may have to pull the trigger now.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:37 am
by Quin
beep beep lol [VOTE:
marmot] aubergine
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:58 am
by Hyena
Okay, I just had another thought (sorry that keep making posts like this, lol):
What if Quin was the MAIN mafia and TSP was the LW with a bulletproof vest. In this case, it doesn't matter TSP was roleblocked twice in a row because maybe Quin was the one who could nightkill.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:02 am
by Hyena
Also, I realized why I'm having so much trouble feeling confident about everything. Because you guys yeeted two wolves before the punk gang came into the thread, they didn't get a chance to interact with any of the punks, which would have given us more to make reads off on after they flipped scum.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
by Marmot
You should all be concerned about the lack of resistance to my votes today, as well as after the explosion of discussion we had at the beginning of the day, that things have fallen off to a lazy wimper.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am
We may have to pull the trigger now.
Why would you have to pull the trigger now?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am
by Marmot
Don't pull the trigger yet, I still have things to say.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:42 pm
by Marmot
Seriously, don't hammer yet. I'm in the middle of a TSP Day 1 iso, but I have to run out for a couple hours.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:49 pm
by nutella
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:58 am
Okay, I just had another thought (sorry that keep making posts like this, lol):
What if Quin was the MAIN mafia and TSP was the LW with a bulletproof vest. In this case, it doesn't matter TSP was roleblocked twice in a row because maybe Quin was the one who could nightkill.
hmmm
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:50 pm
by nutella
I do feel weird with the votes on marmot tbh, like I think he's pretty likely mafia with TL bc I townread most everyone except maybe quin??? (and confused on tsp mechanically) but quin and tl both pushing for the easy marmot vote feels sketchy and i think tl is the better choice today
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:57 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:50 pm
I do feel weird with the votes on marmot tbh, like I think he's pretty likely mafia with TL bc I townread most everyone except maybe quin??? (and confused on tsp mechanically) but quin and tl both pushing for the easy marmot vote feels sketchy and i think tl is the better choice today
You keep ignoring the fact i have been pushing Quinn and Marmot since i got here now am just going for an easy vote?
This would have been alot easyier if you just voted Quinn out yesterday instead of the last second swithc to TH.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:58 pm
by Alison
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
You should all be concerned about the lack of resistance to my votes today, as well as after the explosion of discussion we had at the beginning of the day, that things have fallen off to a lazy wimper.
Can't speak for others but US election handling has affected the amount of free time I have to spend playing mafia, and I might not be the only one.
I'm not voting you today.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:01 pm
by nutella
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:50 pm
I do feel weird with the votes on marmot tbh, like I think he's pretty likely mafia with TL bc I townread most everyone except maybe quin??? (and confused on tsp mechanically) but quin and tl both pushing for the easy marmot vote feels sketchy and i think tl is the better choice today
You keep ignoring the fact i have been pushing Quinn and Marmot since i got here now am just going for an easy vote?
This would have been alot easyier if you just voted Quinn out yesterday instead of the last second swithc to TH.
I feel like Quin/Marmot is not a probable world based on today. It's either you and Quin or you and Marmot fmpov, obviously you have to argue against worlds with you but the votes don't make sense in a quin/marmot world unless he's really trying to bus and go deep instead of get to an easy lylo
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:02 pm
by nutella
Ugh but I keep having to remind myself that it's still possible the lost wolf doesn't know their teammate, but that seems dumb at this stage I think they prob would have been brought together when the punks got in thread?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:03 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:01 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:50 pm
I do feel weird with the votes on marmot tbh, like I think he's pretty likely mafia with TL bc I townread most everyone except maybe quin??? (and confused on tsp mechanically) but quin and tl both pushing for the easy marmot vote feels sketchy and i think tl is the better choice today
You keep ignoring the fact i have been pushing Quinn and Marmot since i got here now am just going for an easy vote?
This would have been alot easyier if you just voted Quinn out yesterday instead of the last second swithc to TH.
I feel like Quin/Marmot is not a probable world based on today. It's either you and Quin or you and Marmot fmpov, obviously you have to argue against worlds with you but the votes don't make sense in a quin/marmot world unless he's really trying to bus and go deep instead of get to an easy lylo
fine kill me know and know that one of you or alison is mafia i gave the info and went through it all but no one really gave reason to why it would be 2 mafia in the 5 neibourhood which i have said sine the begining was unlikley at best.
I also came in clearing TH and Hyena and you yeeted one.
And then you will yeet me into another town kill and we will lose tomorow.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:04 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Like i just don't have time right now since i have no phone to post on and have to leave for work in 20mins and will be unable to post while out.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:20 pm
by Alison
[unvote][/unvote]
Thinking about where to place my vote. Currently leaning Marmot. I think this exchange spews TL town.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by Alison
I'm actually legitimately going to black out from sleep deprivation soon so I'll just vote Marmot.
[VOTE:
Marmot] aubergine
Good night.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 pm
by Marmot
Wait wtf?!?! I asked you not to hammer!
Can I still post?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:30 pm
by Marmot
I don't have time to finish iso, but look at TSP please. I'm concerned he's mafia based on his Day 1 behavior. He exhibited some suspicion of Vulgard and Long Con, but didn't commit to the Vulgard vote when it mattered (his vote was on Poison at the end of the lynch), and I think that's in part because Long Con was vigged that day.
Alison and nutella are town. They look far too clean on Day 1 not to be.
Hyena is likely town.
I don't like some of Quin's actions today. In particular, I don't like his driveby vote.
TL is my other suspicion for the second wolf. It's either TL or Quin, but I lean TL.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:32 pm
by Alison
Just go ahead, I won't end the day early. I voted you before remembering the hammering rule but unvoted soon after. Not my intention to hammer, and I'm sure the others in the game can push the wagon through anyway.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:35 pm
by Alison
Sorry if I accidentally hammered, it's late. You'll probably still have time to do a full legacy anyway so it won't make a difference.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:36 pm
by Marmot
Omg, I should pay more attention, I thought it was 4 to hammer.

Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:12 pm
by nutella
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:20 pm
[unvote][/unvote]
Thinking about where to place my vote. Currently leaning Marmot. I think this exchange spews TL town.
how so?? i feel like marmot is more likely the spewed town in this gamestate with how the votes piled up
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:13 pm
by nutella
but..... that doesn't really make sense unless tsp is a wolf bc i don't think quin/tl is a world, if there are two punk wolves marmot is one
hm
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:30 pm
by Marmot
So I deleted my iso post like an idiot thinking I was hammered.
But hey, we can still win this.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:31 pm
by Marmot
By deleted, I mean I closed the tab and couldn't recapture it
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:33 pm
by Marmot
[VOTE:
Trustworthy Libido] aubergine
This is the best option for me right now, and fortunately aligns with one of my lynch options for the day.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am
We may have to pull the trigger now.
Why would you have to pull the trigger now?
the "shoot alison" thing. It's a dangerous power for nutella to have going into F5 and we get info on if it's true. If one of nutella/alison is a wolf as hyena has suggested then it is necessary to shoot alison today or else nutella can just do it in f5 and win
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:55 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:02 pm
Ugh but I keep having to remind myself that it's still possible the lost wolf doesn't know their teammate, but that seems dumb at this stage I think they prob would have been brought together when the punks got in thread?
I agree that this seems likely.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
The lost wolf info then becomes key: we know that there's a wolf in the punk game, eliminate punk gang til find wolf.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Wait does that work?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:57 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:03 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:01 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:50 pm
I do feel weird with the votes on marmot tbh, like I think he's pretty likely mafia with TL bc I townread most everyone except maybe quin??? (and confused on tsp mechanically) but quin and tl both pushing for the easy marmot vote feels sketchy and i think tl is the better choice today
You keep ignoring the fact i have been pushing Quinn and Marmot since i got here now am just going for an easy vote?
This would have been alot easyier if you just voted Quinn out yesterday instead of the last second swithc to TH.
I feel like Quin/Marmot is not a probable world based on today. It's either you and Quin or you and Marmot fmpov, obviously you have to argue against worlds with you but the votes don't make sense in a quin/marmot world unless he's really trying to bus and go deep instead of get to an easy lylo
fine kill me know and know that one of you or alison is mafia i gave the info and went through it all but no one really gave reason to why it would be 2 mafia in the 5 neibourhood which i have said sine the begining was unlikley at best.
I also came in clearing TH and Hyena and you yeeted one.
And then you will yeet me into another town kill and we will lose tomorow.
hang on
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TL, your role is just the same as the others?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
As in your role is the same as TH's flipped role?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
[mention]nutella[/mention]
have you considered that there's another person in punk chat?
if TL/Quin doesn't work...
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:16 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm
The lost wolf info then becomes key: we know that there's a wolf in the punk game, eliminate punk gang til find wolf.
Why is this necessarily true?
It's a reasonable assumption based on probability, but we don't "know" this.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:18 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am
We may have to pull the trigger now.
Why would you have to pull the trigger now?
the "shoot alison" thing. It's a dangerous power for nutella to have going into F5 and we get info on if it's true. If one of nutella/alison is a wolf as hyena has suggested then it is necessary to shoot alison today or else nutella can just do it in f5 and win
Meh, I'm willing to assume that nutella is town rather than make a last ditch effort in these final minutes of Day 4 to be certain about hitting mafia.
I also don't think Alison is a wolf, another reason I'd prefer not to do that.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:20 pm
by Marmot
I mean, I agree that it's better to have that info now in a scenario where nutella is mafia, I just don't think she's mafia.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:24 pm
by Marmot
Also, where's [mention]Hyena[/mention]? We need your vote.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:26 pm
by Marmot
Also [mention]Quin[/mention], do you have anything more to add other than a drive-by vote?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm
The lost wolf info then becomes key: we know that there's a wolf in the punk game, eliminate punk gang til find wolf.
Why is this necessarily true?
It's a reasonable assumption based on probability, but we don't "know" this.
On the assumption that the lost wolf mechanic is related to the punk chat mechanic
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am
We may have to pull the trigger now.
Why would you have to pull the trigger now?
the "shoot alison" thing. It's a dangerous power for nutella to have going into F5 and we get info on if it's true. If one of nutella/alison is a wolf as hyena has suggested then it is necessary to shoot alison today or else nutella can just do it in f5 and win
Meh, I'm willing to assume that nutella is town rather than make a last ditch effort in these final minutes of Day 4 to be certain about hitting mafia.
I also don't think Alison is a wolf, another reason I'd prefer not to do that.
Yeah it's probably too late now.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:28 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hyena not having voted makes me a little leery. Alison and I have declared, more or less, just avoiding hammers. No clue where Hyena's at.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
note to self:
it's
probably
just
tl
marmot
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:30 pm
by Marmot
but it's not
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:31 pm
by Marmot
Remember that one time i sealed the deal on vulgard?
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:32 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:31 pm
Remember that one time i sealed the deal on vulgard?
he was already dead you couldn't have unsealed the deal
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:33 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:31 pm
Remember that one time i sealed the deal on vulgard?
he was already dead you couldn't have unsealed the deal
He wasn't dead when I voted for him silly.
Re: It's a Mysterious Universe (D4)
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:36 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
He was leading by two with two undeclared votes or something, you and FG, and I had expressed my intention to switch if both landed on poison