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good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

Sloonei is town. Just planting that flag now.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm @Tangrowth

This is your last readlist

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 84#p795384

Wanna explain why all low posters and LHFs are in your PoE, do you have preference towards active players?

I would say that your characterization is a bit reductive, but sure, those players were at the time in my POE because I didn't have a reason to townread them at the time, which on D1 especially is heavily informed by having posts to make that assessment on. There's also a comfort level I have more quickly reading players I know, and as we've talked about in the thread already, those players also happened to be heavily from TS in terms of post volume so far.

Dana is spewed wolf by Nutella here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 96#p792596

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

I don't figure we're meant to know. Could be someone that can make a kill untraceable or unblockable or something. Not a bad role to destroy first if so.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm Dana is spewed wolf by Nutella here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 96#p792596

how so?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

I don't figure we're meant to know. Could be someone that can make a kill untraceable or unblockable or something. Not a bad role to destroy first if so.

I don't think I've really seen the term much either.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm Dana is spewed wolf by Nutella here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 96#p792596

I think that's the opposite kind of spew. I appreciate your digging though.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm This was very shady from Hawk.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 04#p795404

Sloonie picked up the same scummy vibes from Hawk from this post. That looks good for Sloonie.

yeah I will not argue you on this, although I will argue you saying 'picked up vibes' because let's be real it was very explicitly shady xD

I can provide self-meta on my EoD voting tendencies but tbh I don't remember when it's from or who might remember it or when my last scum game was and I know people hate self-meta so that will be available on request xD

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

I don't figure we're meant to know. Could be someone that can make a kill untraceable or unblockable or something. Not a bad role to destroy first if so.

ah okay that makes sense. I just didn't know if that was a term that was often used just by itself like that

I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

Feel free to throw some at me and I can give it a try, of course my analyses will probably be different and I'm feeling pretty rusty, but I want to!

I still need to catch a few pages up before eod1 but I want to look more into Alison's belief yesterday that Nutella and owner were wolf partners

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

presumably things like strongman or ninja or whatever? wow this is some real 2015 brain I'm digging through here

I'll probably be multitasking until the evening though, so I think I'll work on digging then.

Are role madness closed setup games common on PerC?

Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm Guillo's whole exchange with nutella around 1319 is hella dodge but also he was around at EoD and on her wagon so big shrug

I'm spewed town by Nutella big time, i pushed and campaigned for Nutella's yeet. Look elsewhere, scum can't kill me at night and I won't get yeeted, I'm scum's biggest nightmare. In your face!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

No, there was definitely a tie, I saw it too.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

The fact that you're still alive should tell you that I'm not teamed with anyone. That's like 22 pairs done already. You're welcome.

I actually also believe it could have been w/w, but it's hard to say. Made just doesn't have much content to judge.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm Guillo's whole exchange with nutella around 1319 is hella dodge but also he was around at EoD and on her wagon so big shrug

I'm spewed town by Nutella big time, i pushed and campaigned for Nutella's yeet. Look elsewhere, scum can't kill me at night and I won't get yeeted, I'm scum's biggest nightmare. In your face!

bud I literally said I'm town reading you in the next bullet point that you cut out

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

omg yes excitement.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

I have literally never seen a human do that who isn't me (that exact kind of colored matrix). Please carry on hawkwataine. Please carry on.

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Are role madness closed setup games common on PerC?

they used to be when I was playing a lot but not anymore so much

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:22 pm I actually also believe it could have been w/w, but it's hard to say. Made just doesn't have much content to judge.

But could it have been w/w/w

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

Feel free to throw some at me and I can give it a try, of course my analyses will probably be different and I'm feeling pretty rusty, but I want to!

Rust is fine; you bring a fresh perspective. You could grab a couple of lower post count names or one bigger one. Belzy is a name that interests me.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:24 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:22 pm I actually also believe it could have been w/w, but it's hard to say. Made just doesn't have much content to judge.

But could it have been w/w/w

Brain explode.

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:17 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm Dana is spewed wolf by Nutella here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 96#p792596

how so?

Because she came to your defense after Act and I casting suspicion on you for your nervous comment.
Seems like we actually picked up something, it was magical!

Also your readlist is very hedgy, which I need you to answer to my questions about that readlist by the way.
ISO me to find them.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:24 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

Feel free to throw some at me and I can give it a try, of course my analyses will probably be different and I'm feeling pretty rusty, but I want to!

Rust is fine; you bring a fresh perspective. You could grab a couple of lower post count names or one bigger one. Belzy is a name that interests me.

That sounds good! I could try Belzy unless you want to know the results of that one more urgently, in which case I can take a higher post count person that doesn't seem as urgent.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

yeah I agree it's not impossible they're both scum, the thing that's bugging me is why the owner wagon failed to take off where the made wagon soared up to 8 votes if made is scum too

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:22 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm Guillo's whole exchange with nutella around 1319 is hella dodge but also he was around at EoD and on her wagon so big shrug

I'm spewed town by Nutella big time, i pushed and campaigned for Nutella's yeet. Look elsewhere, scum can't kill me at night and I won't get yeeted, I'm scum's biggest nightmare. In your face!

bud I literally said I'm town reading you in the next bullet point that you cut out

Nutella also townread me. I dont get pocketed that easily.

I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

Me and Mac are masons now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:23 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

I have literally never seen a human do that who isn't me (that exact kind of colored matrix). Please carry on hawkwataine. Please carry on.

omg amazing news

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:26 pm I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

It's a good question, you'd think if Made and/or Owner were also scum, they'd prefer one of them to go than nutella from a thread presence perspective.

Owner is still a prime suspect. I have no reason off-hand to change that view.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:23 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

I have literally never seen a human do that who isn't me (that exact kind of colored matrix). Please carry on hawkwataine. Please carry on.

omg amazing news

omg I'm so excited right now.

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

Its not a specific role--it could be something like a janitor (no flip), a strongman (pierces protection), a ninja (can't be watched/tracked), anything like that

My guess would be its some kind of joat-type role where they have x shots of different modifiers to use, probably

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm Owner is still a prime suspect. I have no reason off-hand to change that view.

I don't really know what to make of her, I think the most suspect thing she's done is shade various people without really... seeming like solving or anything? I need to see how she's trying to contribute to that, you know. At least, that's what I think offhand.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:25 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:17 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:16 pm Dana is spewed wolf by Nutella here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 96#p792596

how so?

Because she came to your defense after Act and I casting suspicion on you for your nervous comment.
Seems like we actually picked up something, it was magical!

Also your readlist is very hedgy, which I need you to answer to my questions about that readlist by the way.
ISO me to find them.

yes I was working on them a little overnight, I will get them done soon but tbh I feel like you might not like my answers a whole lot lol, I think maybe I am just a hedgy person in general

Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:26 pm I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

It's a good question, you'd think if Made and/or Owner were also scum, they'd prefer one of them to go than nutella from a thread presence perspective.

The notion of role strength also applies -- and nutella's role at least seems like it could be a strong one. The dynamic of Day 1 dictates a lot of decision making given that nutella was a runaway wagon for a while. If Made is mafia, then I suspect teammates of both were keen to chop him instead when he became the counterwagon. There's a lot of wifom in this so I will grain of salt it until I can review things more carefully.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm Owner is still a prime suspect. I have no reason off-hand to change that view.

Naw i kinda don't think they're partners

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:26 pm I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

It's a good question, you'd think if Made and/or Owner were also scum, they'd prefer one of them to go than nutella from a thread presence perspective.

The notion of role strength also applies -- and nutella's role at least seems like it could be a strong one. The dynamic of Day 1 dictates a lot of decision making given that nutella was a runaway wagon for a while. If Made is mafia, then I suspect teammates of both were keen to chop him instead when he became the counterwagon. There's a lot of wifom in this so I will grain of salt it until I can review things more carefully.

Yeah, that's a really good point.

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:26 pm I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

It's a good question, you'd think if Made and/or Owner were also scum, they'd prefer one of them to go than nutella from a thread presence perspective.

I think so yeah but I'm not taking roles into account which I actually should be in a game like this, it has big mash energy.

My PoE today

Belzy
Owner
Hawk
LongCon
Dana

Someone from this list must be yeeted today.

@Owner of a Lonely Heart I gave you a second chance yesterday. Town up and show me it was the right decision.

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm Owner is still a prime suspect. I have no reason off-hand to change that view.

I don't really know what to make of her, I think the most suspect thing she's done is shade various people without really... seeming like solving or anything? I need to see how she's trying to contribute to that, you know. At least, that's what I think offhand.

This doubles as a good paraphrase of how nutella was pushing owner

Before nutella wagon took off

So

Probably not partners imo

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

I didn't see the tie but I definitely agree it would be interesting to know who that was. on the one hand I feel like if made was town and Nutella's partners were bussing her, would they not want to switch to him to save her? or would that have been too obvious? the last in-thread vote for made I can see is hawk's, but I have a copy of the poll from a lil before eod where hawk is already voting made but he only has 6 votes on him