Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:37 pm
Who did you block again LC? I take it that you blocked Jack?
I mean he did nearly 0 post on Day 1 which was what he did during Batman Mafia when he WAS mafia so the possibility is still there.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:36 pm
I guess my concern is that you're accusing him of gamethrowing and being town, rather than scumreading him. Could he not be scum in this scenario?
Why is the RB a role that's exclusive to Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.
I believe mafia can either share the same role with a town or another mafia member therefore someone’s role cannot determine someone’s alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:35 pmSo you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pmYes absolutely.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pmWait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?
And you think they're both town?
Roles are not AI.
It’s not, it’s just that Lime Coke and Dolby are likely town and there is absolutely no reason they can’t still both be town.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pmWhy is the RB a role that's exclusive to Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.
There are 9 roles, based on the classes from the game. Each role has two copies, a Red and a Blue copy. The two copies are identical and have the same abilities.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pmI believe mafia can either share the same role with a town or another mafia member therefore someone’s role cannot determine someone’s alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:35 pmSo you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pmYes absolutely.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pmWait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?
And you think they're both town?
Roles are not AI.
It actually makes a lot of sense for Maf to have a RB, as there are a lot of roles for Town that would sers hamper Maf's chances if they didn't at least have 1 blockerGavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:46 pmIt’s not, it’s just that Lime Coke and Dolby are likely town and there is absolutely no reason they can’t still both be town.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pmWhy is the RB a role that's exclusive to Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.
LOLfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:48 pmIt actually makes a lot of sense for Maf to have a RB, as there are a lot of roles for Town that would sers hamper Maf's chances if they didn't at least have 1 blockerGavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:46 pmIt’s not, it’s just that Lime Coke and Dolby are likely town and there is absolutely no reason they can’t still both be town.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pmWhy is the RB a role that's exclusive to Town?Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.
Where does it say that?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
It says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:50 pmLOL
No man you can’t justify roles that’s wolfy.
Everything is randomized, the host didn’t choose what roles the mafia got that would be illegal.
Are you going crazy?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:51 pm Oh Gav....I've only ever played with 1 other player who would contradict themselves so quickly, and with so little regard or insight into how it sounds
Generally, you have to PM questions to the host, not ask them in thread.
Actually, it does...4 copies means that they are all copies. That would heavily imply that they are 4 separate roles
Well let’s see what the hosts says.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pmActually, it does...4 copies means that they are all copies. That would heavily imply that they are 4 separate roles
I mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
Because I’m Gavial, people probably won’t care if I’m shoot and TSP can just say he wolf read me as the Mafia Sniper.
OK, it's a possibility...tho I can't say I've ever played a game where Maf have duplicate power roles...have you? Especially with only 4Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
Thanks you Marmot!Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
You've thrown in several other games as well. I'm not the only one saying this. Quit being delusional.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pmI mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
Dude it’s literally randomize, how is that hard to understand?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 pmOK, it's a possibility...tho I can't say I've ever played a game where Maf have duplicate power roles...have you? Especially with only 4Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pmI mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
Dude Lime.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmYou've thrown in several other games as well. I'm not the only one saying this. Quit being delusional.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pmI mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
You're not, but you're also claiming I game threw in a game where I only voted scum and you're calling me delusionalLime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmYou've thrown in several other games as well. I'm not the only one saying this. Quit being delusional.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pmI mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
Quick hammering in LyLo isn't game throwing, it's just bad play if you're wrong.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:58 pmNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pmI mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And only pushed mafia at EOD. I mean, you know because you were in that game and my Poe was almost entirely correct. Lime coke is just trolling himself over that game where I couldn't hit a vigi shot. Being wrong is game throwing.
I'm specifically talking about the other two games where you quick-hammered in LYLO :P
But I can't really interact with LC's argument, because it's based solely on LC's alignment, of which only the mafia team knows, and even then, he's calling you town.
I'm engaging with him, because I'd rather have something I can actually converse about, not shrug my shoulders at.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 pmOK, it's a possibility...tho I can't say I've ever played a game where Maf have duplicate power roles...have you? Especially with only 4Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
I find it more likely that the 9 roles were randomized. I've also played a ton of games where a Host would select which roles are given to Maf, and that the randomization occurred amongst the Maf team, not totally randomized amongst the whole game.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:58 pmDude it’s literally randomize, how is that hard to understand?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 pmOK, it's a possibility...tho I can't say I've ever played a game where Maf have duplicate power roles...have you? Especially with only 4Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
Yes and their RB’s make sense and the way they came out with their RB’s also make sense.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 pmI find it more likely that the 9 roles were randomized. I've also played a ton of games where a Host would select which roles are given to Maf, and that the randomization occurred amongst the Maf team, not totally randomized amongst the whole game.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:58 pmDude it’s literally randomize, how is that hard to understand?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 pmOK, it's a possibility...tho I can't say I've ever played a game where Maf have duplicate power roles...have you? Especially with only 4Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pmIt says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, though it can be inferred. I'm just not sure which is correct.
This isn't something we'll actually know until the game's over tho, so I'm not gonna waste a bunch of energy on it. I do know that you seem to be reading role alignments based off your player reads, which is...interesting.
Like, for you the RB have to both be town cuz you're TR the players who've claimed.