Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:16 pmWhat?
JJJ / Thunal / Scotty + 1
if I have to remove cape. Id still rather cape but I get why Robyn wants it removed.
That leaves on in SVs/DM/TS
then vote☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:25 pm Hey hey hey hey hey
Umm
Hey
We should really REALLY kill michelle here
I'm on MichelleRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pmthen vote☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:25 pm Hey hey hey hey hey
Umm
Hey
We should really REALLY kill michelle here
[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine
Was there something in particular that triggered your confidence?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pm Michele is a wolf I'd bet big dollars on it in fact you can kill me if I'm wrong
Call it the vibes
game theory + counter wagon etc etc yeahRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:35 pm Objectively it is correct to kill Michelle here. Because Michelle is the counter wagon. We get the most information from voters. JJJ is going for NOT the counter wagon and another low poster. Lorab could be wolf. But I read them as town. So I can only see the push as another attempt to get one closer to lylo
YesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:27 pmWas there something in particular that triggered your confidence?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pm Michele is a wolf I'd bet big dollars on it in fact you can kill me if I'm wrong
Call it the vibes
well...
Thanks. I'll let you decide if you want to expand further. I know you're headed out.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:28 pmYesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:27 pmWas there something in particular that triggered your confidence?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pm Michele is a wolf I'd bet big dollars on it in fact you can kill me if I'm wrong
Call it the vibes
Did you wolfcase me correctly in the game where shadow bussed me D1? Like, I don't get correctly wolfcased ever.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:02 pmrobyn is probably technically the towniest person here, I have liked their solving and they have not pinged me, I was kinda offput day 1 by them just playing differently in general, but they are playing in the best interest of town today IMOJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:52 pmI am sure you've indicated before, but I am kind of workshopping things in my head. Could you tell me your current impressions of Bereft and robyn?
Being a person who has wolfcased Bereft correctly Bereft once, doesn't feel like his wolf game and I also think...
this sort of self-righteousness is towny to me
I think Bereft's dynamic with robyn is probably towny unless w/w which I honestly highly doubt because of how on the nose they have been supporting each other
Wilgy reads none of my posts, Scotty's just pushing agenda. Or at least my confbiased gut tells me thats how to look at it.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:13 pmflip the poe whatever which way, but i'm explicitly telling you that cape and bereft are town, otherwise i'm amendableJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:29 pm However, if there's mafia deep in my town reads, Bereft might be more logical. I've liked his posts for vaguer reasons, and he is so easy to attach to certain suspects like S~V~S. robyn could just be wrong about him. God reads are junk.
scotty and wigly suspecting bereft gives me goosebumps
Why tf are you dissing my wolfgame again.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:14 pmfucker can't postJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:12 pmWhat's the typical dynamic (or describe one instance) when you're town and Bereft is not?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Test-Game
me scum bereft (schweppes) town
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10
i fake claimed pr for an entire cycle and d2 chop was a 0 poster essentially, he was gonna reevaluate me but yano pr claim and all, and we weren't nearly as close in tacky matrix game, approx 40k dms between that game and this oneJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pmI did some quick CTRL+Fs of both of these.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:14 pm fucker can't post
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Test-Game
me scum bereft (schweppes) town
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10
robyn town/Bereft mafia --> robyn's initial read was backwards before eventually (and abruptly) shifting to correct. Did not die until cycle 6, Bereft until cycle 7
Bereft town/robyn mafia --> Bereft's read wrong for first three cycles at least. robyn eliminated day 4 (no Bereft vote) and Bereft day 6
How do each of you reconcile this? It doesn't exactly suggest reliable reads.
Yes, they are both deep in my POE. Let there be no doubt that I have had a hand in both wagons.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:33 pm See the thing I hate most about the poll right now. Is the fact that lowrab only exists in counter to michelle because JJJ drummed it up. Same with Seanzie yesterday
Okay thanks. I will think about it.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:36 pm i fake claimed pr for an entire cycle and d2 chop was a 0 poster essentially, he was gonna reevaluate me but yano pr claim and all, and we weren't nearly as close in tacky matrix game, approx 40k dms between that game and this one
at the start of this game i told him to solve without actually saying it explicitly, so he'd be the only person who understood me, smth smth not for cred but it's relevant now
no, read his d1 posts, take a few minutesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:37 pmOkay thanks. I will think about it.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:36 pm i fake claimed pr for an entire cycle and d2 chop was a 0 poster essentially, he was gonna reevaluate me but yano pr claim and all, and we weren't nearly as close in tacky matrix game, approx 40k dms between that game and this one
at the start of this game i told him to solve without actually saying it explicitly, so he'd be the only person who understood me, smth smth not for cred but it's relevant now
BTW, Bereft posted over 300 times in that wolf game. That was over seven cycles, granted, but he certainly posted.
Both of us knew the other wasn't playing well.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:26 pmI did some quick CTRL+Fs of both of these.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:14 pm fucker can't post
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Test-Game
me scum bereft (schweppes) town
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10
robyn town/Bereft mafia --> robyn's initial read was backwards before eventually (and abruptly) shifting to correct. Did not die until cycle 6, Bereft until cycle 7
Bereft town/robyn mafia --> Bereft's read wrong for first three cycles at least. robyn eliminated day 4 (no Bereft vote) and Bereft day 6
How do each of you reconcile this? It doesn't exactly suggest reliable reads.
The fun thing (maybe not right now for you, but in due time when we're all flipped and jolly and Christmaslike) is that this vintage Jay town. I tend to get my way. As mafia, "my way" is far more subtle and dictated by thread momentum around me. I don't create as mafia as much as I manipulate. As town, I mold the clay to form and live or die by the results.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:36 pm Maybe I am just looking too much into that. Maybe it doesnt matter, a counter wagon is a counter wagon. the choices are still worth reading.
Thanks and duly noted. I've been monitoring that tit-for-tat all game long and generally I have vibed with it. I am just trying to be responsible about my town reads.Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:41 pm Both of us knew the other wasn't playing well.
Not that we cared in the moment.
The key to good wolfplay is having good vibes and no substance, and while I'm not going to lie and say robyn has so much substantive, its way way qualitatively better than the wolfrands Ive seen from them.
And we actually both knew each other was town early EoD1 simply because of mutual interactions. Im not going to go into details but there's a subtle tit-for-tat that just neither of us pulls off as wolf.
Well there are too many low posters and no voters for me to ever get you over and it be +ev. If Michelle is wolf here I will just ride and die you town. But game is over already if you're wolf imhoJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:42 pmThe fun thing (maybe not right now for you, but in due time when we're all flipped and jolly and Christmaslike) is that this vintage Jay town. I tend to get my way. As mafia, "my way" is far more subtle and dictated by thread momentum around me. I don't create as mafia as much as I manipulate. As town, I mold the clay to form and live or die by the results.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:36 pm Maybe I am just looking too much into that. Maybe it doesnt matter, a counter wagon is a counter wagon. the choices are still worth reading.
This is likely meaningless to you, so ignore me if you like (I would understand). It's just the first time in a while a game has been like this for me, and I am arrogantly amused. I've been mafia too damned much lately.
A big reason I have left cape alone is because I vibe with bereft and Robyn from d1 and again today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:44 pmThanks and duly noted. I've been monitoring that tit-for-tat all game long and generally I have vibed with it. I am just trying to be responsible about my town reads.Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:41 pm Both of us knew the other wasn't playing well.
Not that we cared in the moment.
The key to good wolfplay is having good vibes and no substance, and while I'm not going to lie and say robyn has so much substantive, its way way qualitatively better than the wolfrands Ive seen from them.
And we actually both knew each other was town early EoD1 simply because of mutual interactions. Im not going to go into details but there's a subtle tit-for-tat that just neither of us pulls off as wolf.
That's probably the right decision. I think I town read Cape more than those two.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:46 pm A big reason I have left cape alone is because I vibe with bereft and Robyn from d1 and again today.
Ts/scotty/abigail but the thread would revolt.
Any reason LoRab can't be X?Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:48 pmTs/scotty/abigail but the thread would revolt.
I dont even know what I mean by thread would revolt.
But it would require coordination on town's end, ergo, the game's actually difficult because its impossible to get good wagons.
Like I don't mind voting LoRab, but as I said, they're completely inactive and its been exactly a dayphase.
If I had to entertain the alternative viewpoint, that is, the Mich/SVS/X/ts worldview, ehhhh. I don't know who the X would be, and that worries me.
Oh right, yeah it would have to be exactly that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:50 pmAny reason LoRab can't be X?Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:48 pmTs/scotty/abigail but the thread would revolt.
I dont even know what I mean by thread would revolt.
But it would require coordination on town's end, ergo, the game's actually difficult because its impossible to get good wagons.
Like I don't mind voting LoRab, but as I said, they're completely inactive and its been exactly a dayphase.
If I had to entertain the alternative viewpoint, that is, the Mich/SVS/X/ts worldview, ehhhh. I don't know who the X would be, and that worries me.
if michelle town thenRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:54 pm Actually, what would be really helpful to the game. Please everyone here do it:
If Michelle wolf:
who team? x3
If Michelle town:
who team x4?
Of those teams who is most likely to be playing as which are most likely to be which wolf?
A) [Michelle, S~V~S, LoRab, ts account]RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:54 pm Actually, what would be really helpful to the game. Please everyone here do it:
If Michelle wolf:
who team? x3
If Michelle town:
who team x4?
Of those teams who is most likely to be playing as which are most likely to be which wolf?
