The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:16 am Golden if you think that putting up candidates like Marmot and Glorfindel poll after poll is in the best interests of the town I just totally have to disagree. It is in the best interests of Golden and Golden feels that what is good for Golden is good for town. I appreciate that is how you feel. But my feelings about the alignment of one of the people you are protecting means I cannot agree with you this time.

I know that’s what you meant. But it’s not what you said.

Take the captaincy mac. I think you may be on fire.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:16 am Golden if you think that putting up candidates like Marmot and Glorfindel poll after poll is in the best interests of the town I just totally have to disagree. It is in the best interests of Golden and Golden feels that what is good for Golden is good for town. I appreciate that is how you feel. But my feelings about the alignment of one of the people you are protecting means I cannot agree with you this time.

I know that’s what you meant. But it’s not what you said.

Take the captaincy mac. I think you may be on fire.

There is no point. I am going to be night killed tonight without doubt.

If everybody would have just talked about my DFaraday investigation, things would be golden.

I mean things would not be ABOUT Golden.

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

I'm not taking your ship.

You were being democratic and fair to your team sure. Us on the outside disagreed with the fact that you have a guy with "I am scum" painted on his forehead on your ship and you objected to the idea of putting him on the poll tomorrow instead of Glorfindel.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am If everybody would have just talked about my DFaraday investigation, things would be golden.

Since Marmot has been kicked off Golden's ship I'll change my vote back to Faraday.

[mention]Golden[/mention] why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am @MacDougall please approach the loading bay of the Yun Qui and take off all your clothes, new clothes will perhaps be provided

DharmaHelper invited me onto his ship twice and gave me a cool shirt. I'm not leaving him on a ship full of villains by himself.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

I'm not taking your ship.

You were being democratic and fair to your team sure. Us on the outside disagreed with the fact that you have a guy with "I am scum" painted on his forehead on your ship and you objected to the idea of putting him on the poll tomorrow instead of Glorfindel.

I almost certainly would have put him on the poll tomorrow.

If I thought someone was scum I’d have just fired them.

Let’s see if you can do a better job.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

I'm not taking your ship.

You were being democratic and fair to your team sure. Us on the outside disagreed with the fact that you have a guy with "I am scum" painted on his forehead on your ship and you objected to the idea of putting him on the poll tomorrow instead of Glorfindel.

I almost certainly would have put him on the poll tomorrow.

If I thought someone was scum I’d have just fired them.

Let’s see if you can do a better job.

I'm not taking your ship Golden.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am @MacDougall please approach the loading bay of the Yun Qui and take off all your clothes, new clothes will perhaps be provided

DharmaHelper invited me onto his ship twice and gave me a cool shirt. I'm not leaving him on a ship full of villains by himself.

Noice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

I'm not taking your ship.

You were being democratic and fair to your team sure. Us on the outside disagreed with the fact that you have a guy with "I am scum" painted on his forehead on your ship and you objected to the idea of putting him on the poll tomorrow instead of Glorfindel.

I almost certainly would have put him on the poll tomorrow.

If I thought someone was scum I’d have just fired them.

Let’s see if you can do a better job.

I'm not taking your ship Golden.

Don’t be all noble. I fired everyone. There’s nothing left for me anyway.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am @MacDougall please approach the loading bay of the Yun Qui and take off all your clothes, new clothes will perhaps be provided

DharmaHelper invited me onto his ship twice and gave me a cool shirt. I'm not leaving him on a ship full of villains by himself.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: DharmaHelper and Turnip Head you are captains. Golden is not using his captaincy abilities properly. You guys can.

This is what I objected to.

I was using my abilities as well as I could. I was democratic and fair to all.

I hope you can do better.

I'm not taking your ship.

You were being democratic and fair to your team sure. Us on the outside disagreed with the fact that you have a guy with "I am scum" painted on his forehead on your ship and you objected to the idea of putting him on the poll tomorrow instead of Glorfindel.

I almost certainly would have put him on the poll tomorrow.

If I thought someone was scum I’d have just fired them.

Let’s see if you can do a better job.

I'm not taking your ship Golden.

Don’t be all noble. I fired everyone. There’s nothing left for me anyway.

If I take your ship I am:

1. Leaving DharmaHelper on a ship of scum
2. Taking an empty vessel
3. Will be shipless at the next cull

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am @MacDougall please approach the loading bay of the Yun Qui and take off all your clothes, new clothes will perhaps be provided

DharmaHelper invited me onto his ship twice and gave me a cool shirt. I'm not leaving him on a ship full of villains by himself.

I love the idea of Danaerys having a spaceship along with her dragons, Dothraki and Unsullied.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

When I read yesterday it looked like an Enrique save.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:20 am @MacDougall please approach the loading bay of the Yun Qui and take off all your clothes, new clothes will perhaps be provided

DharmaHelper invited me onto his ship twice and gave me a cool shirt. I'm not leaving him on a ship full of villains by himself.

I love the idea of Danaerys having a spaceship along with her dragons, Dothraki and Unsullied.

HODOR

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

When I read yesterday it looked like an Enrique save.

The votes were settled at 8 TH Wilgy 7. Then suddenly nova calls for an Enrique CFD and once it’s all over Wilgy is somehow ahead of TH.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

I'm so tired of hearing how someone was "saved" just because votes don't go your way. DDL said that said shit when Sokoth was lynched.

Anyway at some point tomorrow I will observe:

1. Who did Sokamehameha Suspect and Trust
2. Who Suspected and Trusted Sammy DAvis Jr
3. When The above two events took place
4. who is 100% mafia.

DDL could be culpable too, it’s possible. Enrique was never at any risk in my opinion. He had no votes until like 25 minutes to go.

If people were saving Turnip Head, who saved him?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

I'm so tired of hearing how someone was "saved" just because votes don't go your way. DDL said that said shit when Sokoth was lynched.

For example having played several games with Epignosis this is not his civ game he is either the third party or a mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

I'm so tired of hearing how someone was "saved" just because votes don't go your way. DDL said that said shit when Sokoth was lynched.

I’m tired of all my thoughts being dismissed all game but hey, we all have our burdens to bear.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

When I read yesterday it looked like an Enrique save.

The votes were settled at 8 TH Wilgy 7. Then suddenly nova calls for an Enrique CFD and once it’s all over Wilgy is somehow ahead of TH.

I was the one who called for an Enrique CFD. I outlined this in my reads I posted moments ago. When I did there were several people keen for it. DDL was the first to vote for Enrique. Immediately it turned people off Enrique. DDL then switched to Wilgy and I outlined his progression from wanting to lynch Enrique, his soul enemy, to using a Wilgy vote for reverse psychology, to just outright reading Wilgy scum. I should have not been involved as I hadn't even read most of the game and I fucked up and helped him drive it. This is one of the main reasons I want DDL lynched. Based on what you are saying it is a point against TH sure.

But how did you read all of that and feel good about DDL if you think it was a save. If it was a save it was DDL that did it?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:34 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

I'm so tired of hearing how someone was "saved" just because votes don't go your way. DDL said that said shit when Sokoth was lynched.

I’m tired of all my thoughts being dismissed all game but hey, we all have our burdens to bear.

Well, you had a whole crew who apparently worshiped your thoughts.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:34 am
For example having played several games with Epignosis this is not his civ game he is either the third party or a mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:36 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 am @Golden why is your vote on Turbup alongside scumrique?

Because I think TH is bad.

I’m now disinvesting in this game.

Okay do you have a case on TH that I haven't seen?

Yes. I made it yesterday.

Why not look at how yesterday was a TH save?

When I read yesterday it looked like an Enrique save.

The votes were settled at 8 TH Wilgy 7. Then suddenly nova calls for an Enrique CFD and once it’s all over Wilgy is somehow ahead of TH.

I was the one who called for an Enrique CFD. I outlined this in my reads I posted moments ago. When I did there were several people keen for it. DDL was the first to vote for Enrique. Immediately it turned people off Enrique. DDL then switched to Wilgy and I outlined his progression from wanting to lynch Enrique, his soul enemy, to using a Wilgy vote for reverse psychology, to just outright reading Wilgy scum. I should have not been involved as I hadn't even read most of the game and I fucked up and helped him drive it. This is one of the main reasons I want DDL lynched. Based on what you are saying it is a point against TH sure.

But how did you read all of that and feel good about DDL if you think it was a save. If it was a save it was DDL that did it?

I already had a strong read on DDL. I already told you I was beginning to consider whether I was wrong eg using my affiliation check on him.

I find a lot of what he’s said very genuine. I tone read a lot.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:33 am DDL could be culpable too, it’s possible. Enrique was never at any risk in my opinion. He had no votes until like 25 minutes to go.

Here's my understanding.

TH and Wilgy were neck and neck.

Mac enters the fray chaos posting and wants to lynch Enrique.

Nova, Luna, TH and DDL all agree. At this point an Enrique CFD was very much on the cards based on the way the thread sentiment was.

DDL voted Enrique.

Because Nova, Luna and I already all had doubts about DDL we didn't push ahead with the CFD.

DDL then immediately switched to Wilgy, initially under the guise of reverse psychology, but very quickly rationalised an actual scum read and then started very forcefully pushing people to vote for Wilgy.

It is possible that DDL saved his scum teammate TH. I feel like he never really wanted to lynch Enrique though. I'm sure he didn't expect us all to just nope him when he voted Enrique but I believe that had we voted Enrique he still would have flipped to Wilgy and pushed Wilgy. It is almost the same thing he did on my wagon on day 1. He flipped to me despite saying he didn't like my wagon on day 1.

I am so sure DDL is Mafia.

I’m voting

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

Why the fuck not.

I don’t think epi is bad and I’m sure I’ll move it tomorrow. Please allow me this catharsis.

Maybe I am wrong about Enrique and Turnip Head...

Anyway I have adequately blown up the thread I want to hear from everyone else. Especially those that I have listed as town reads.

I’ll admit me reading nova as more bad for it than DDL is probably confirmation bias.

Mac, maybe you saved TH?

If so we are fucked lol

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:44 am I’ll admit me reading nova as more bad for it than DDL is probably confirmation bias.

If you look at Nova without tinfoil from day 0 he's probably the most civilian looking player left in the game.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:41 am I don’t think epi is bad and I’m sure I’ll move it tomorrow. Please allow me this catharsis.

I don't think you're bad either. I've said so early and often.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:45 am Mac, maybe you saved TH?

If so we are fucked lol

If TH flips Mafia I expect to have something to answer for because I can appreciate that it looks like that. I was just chaos posting and had a random intuition that Enrique was scum and a cavalcade of randomness came as a result of it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:50 am Changed my mind. I'll take your ship Golden.

Good

If I’m going to make a rash emotional decision, at least allow me to make it worthwhile.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:45 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:44 am I’ll admit me reading nova as more bad for it than DDL is probably confirmation bias.

If you look at Nova without tinfoil from day 0 he's probably the most civilian looking player left in the game.

I don’t necessarily agree, but from day 3 on I’ve felt much better about him.

Sorry DH. I didn't want to leave you but I didn't want to stare this gift horse in the mouth especially given that Golden now has me doubting Turnip Head.