AIM Mafia [Town Wins!]

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah but Marmots above the red dotted line, he’s just not showing up

[falcon45ca]

Yeah but Marmots above the red dotted line, he’s just not showing up

Who's in your POE right now?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ted Sean and then unknown people above the dotted line who slowly become below the dotted line

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think it’s probably exactly one of the people who targeted me and exactly one of the people who didn’t and all Sean’s done so far is play chess with me despite promising me some networking work so i guess it can be him idk

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE SEAN] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Ted Sean and then unknown people above the dotted line who slowly become below the dotted line

What are you holding your vote back for?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don’t feel good enough to vote

[falcon45ca]

We have four kills

Falcon is one

Sean and jpic probably

Nobody else really inspires me, we'll figure it out

Why are you voting Ted?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We have four kills

Falcon is one

Sean and jpic probably

Nobody else really inspires me, we'll figure it out

Why are you voting Ted?

My magic eight ball told me to

[falcon45ca]

We have four kills

Falcon is one

Sean and jpic probably

Nobody else really inspires me, we'll figure it out

Why are you voting Ted?

My magic eight ball told me to

Magic 8 ball...cocaine?


That's so 80's of you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

No a literal magic eight ball

[TonyStarkPrime]

i think it's unreasonable to throw out the poe given on day 1 we chopped the no poster and on day 2 we policy chopped the policy chop tbh. game shouldn't feel bad.

[TonyStarkPrime]

now, game /shouldn't/ feel bad is different from game /doesn't/ feel bad but like ok

[TonyStarkPrime]

don't derive an is from an ought I got it hume

[Marmot]

Can't a marmot go on an impromptu camping trip without getting yeeted?

[Marmot]

Too tired to catch up now, will do so in the morn.

[MacDougall]

Whoever the wolves are are playing well. I've got no idea.

ok this is the kind of post that makes me scumread mac just a little bit

Why? it's just true. Do you not feel the same way?

Of course I believe it but I didn’t say it.

So saying things that you believe is scummy, but keeping things you believe to yourself is not?

Good chat.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Whoever the wolves are are playing well. I've got no idea.

ok this is the kind of post that makes me scumread mac just a little bit

Why? it's just true. Do you not feel the same way?

Of course I believe it but I didn’t say it.

So saying things that you believe is scummy, but keeping things you believe to yourself is not?

Good chat.

I think that you and I are /both/ the kind of person who would be far more likely to write “wolves are doing a great job” in the thread as a wolf than a town and therefore I don’t think you don’t understand this

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also I was about to accuse you of responding and then dipping but I just hit my head against on the wall and I’m going to fall asleep now

[TonyStarkPrime]

I can’t sleep but I came up with an ordered Poe

the line

Dana
Falcon
Nanook
———
Mac
JPIC
Marmot
____
Sean
Ted

[TonyStarkPrime]

Here’s what’s gonna happen now: we’re gonna chop marmot and then we’re gonna chop Mac and then it’s gonna be F5 with the standard F5 crew and we’re gonna screw our heads in right and realize it was the obvious team the whole time and I’m going to eschew that nonsense Nd vote for Ted now

[TonyStarkPrime]

You may ask: why are you voting for Ted and the answer is I feel like it

[tedxtr]

great day 3 case you got there

[tedxtr]

i’ve looked over marmot’s iso and i believe it’s fine

i’m wrong somewhere

[MacDougall]

Whoever the wolves are are playing well. I've got no idea.

ok this is the kind of post that makes me scumread mac just a little bit

Why? it's just true. Do you not feel the same way?

Of course I believe it but I didn’t say it.

So saying things that you believe is scummy, but keeping things you believe to yourself is not?

Good chat.

I think that you and I are /both/ the kind of person who would be far more likely to write “wolves are doing a great job” in the thread as a wolf than a town and therefore I don’t think you don’t understand this

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: tsp ] aubergine

i felt like it

[tedxtr]

Ted Sean and then unknown people above the dotted line who slowly become below the dotted line

I can’t sleep but I came up with an ordered Poe

the line

Dana
Falcon
Nanook
———
Mac
JPIC
Marmot
____
Sean
Ted

Here’s what’s gonna happen now: we’re gonna chop marmot and then we’re gonna chop Mac and then it’s gonna be F5 with the standard F5 crew and we’re gonna screw our heads in right and realize it was the obvious team the whole time and I’m going to eschew that nonsense Nd vote for Ted now

this progression feels iffy

you have almost next to no reason afaict for voting me, yet you act like both me and sean are outed wolves for you and go to a scenario like this even though you've described mac and marmot are also becoming PoE

[TonyStarkPrime]

In the assumption that wolves don’t target the same person, several Poe teams are removed from contention. The result is that it’s likely either roughly one wolf in Sean/Marmot/jpic and one in the others. Of the others, on my kinda withering assumption that Mac and Nanook are town, I think Ted is the best candidate. I think this is reasonable logic tbh. Ted will say “no, it’s Mac” and I will find this unconvincing

[tedxtr]

guess we got that sorted out then

[Marmot]

Nanook's POE is Falcon, JPIC, Seanzie (1 wolf at most) + TSP OR Marmot.

I personally find Seanzie townie from our chat, and so too JPIC.

Falcon being everyone's favourite punching bag is making me wonder whether he's not a mischop.

Nanook appears to have been coordinating all his night chats to engage with town exclusively, which I also find odd. He feels like the orchestrator.

And if he is then he is probably not with Falcon. Or Dana.

I'm interested to hear what @Marmot has to say about the game atm.

Ted is defending falcon, and that's the only person you need for a full wolf team.

[Marmot]

I want to yeet falcon or ted today.


Looking at ted's ISO, he gave falcon a Day 1 TR for his "spelling mistake read" of seanzie.

Is falcon itt rn?

if not, then can somebody explain if they got what was the spelling error that falcon referred to in seanzie’s post about a mislunch or something

dana reasons have been mentioned. i think it's pretty tough to pull the paranoid angle on strong players as well as she does here.

falcon had a post that was reading into SPELLING FOR JOKES. wolves don't really care for that / it's hard to come up with stuff like that, since you already have all the answers.

Also, ted didn't seem to understand the read at first, but then went on to townread him for it anyway.

Ted retained that read on Day 2 (albeit there seem to be other added pieces of evidence)

oh, you're asking for my read on them

i honestly have no clue, my legacy was this



v
dana - obvious
falcon - a few things that are a bit hard to fake imo
seanzie - my meta read + his recents posts are good

jay - just posting it for cred when / if he dies n1

gavial - responded well imo

Then here we are on Day 3, falcon's opening read list is the following

dana
falcon

still seem like villagers to me, got quite a bit to build from

Sean has disappeared from the list, Dana remains a TR, and so does falcon. Falcon doesn't seem to belong on such a small list with Dana imo.


Anyway, reading through falcon's posts today, he doesn't seem to have any interest in reversing his stance on falcon. We have this interaction:

Without a flip, all this glad handing is a bit premature I'd say

i think i like this post in the context of the thread

wolf getting...mad at people voting for a town without a counterwagon? doesn’t make much sense. of course you could read it as laughing in people’s faces, but it doesn’t have that vibe

Every post is made in the context of the thread, that caveat is unnecessary. But it's that ted hasn't reconsidered this read since D1, and I see this as ted trying to maintain his TR and defense of falcon.

That's followed by this question to Mac.

someone get mac to talk about falcon cuz i’m not seeing it

Additionally, ted and falcon both picked me for aim chats Day 2, and neither of them engaged me there. Sadge.

[falcon45ca]

I want to yeet falcon or ted today.


Looking at ted's ISO, he gave falcon a Day 1 TR for his "spelling mistake read" of seanzie.

Is falcon itt rn?

if not, then can somebody explain if they got what was the spelling error that falcon referred to in seanzie’s post about a mislunch or something

dana reasons have been mentioned. i think it's pretty tough to pull the paranoid angle on strong players as well as she does here.

falcon had a post that was reading into SPELLING FOR JOKES. wolves don't really care for that / it's hard to come up with stuff like that, since you already have all the answers.

Also, ted didn't seem to understand the read at first, but then went on to townread him for it anyway.

Ted retained that read on Day 2 (albeit there seem to be other added pieces of evidence)

oh, you're asking for my read on them

i honestly have no clue, my legacy was this



v
dana - obvious
falcon - a few things that are a bit hard to fake imo
seanzie - my meta read + his recents posts are good

jay - just posting it for cred when / if he dies n1

gavial - responded well imo

Then here we are on Day 3, falcon's opening read list is the following

dana
falcon

still seem like villagers to me, got quite a bit to build from

Sean has disappeared from the list, Dana remains a TR, and so does falcon. Falcon doesn't seem to belong on such a small list with Dana imo.


Anyway, reading through falcon's posts today, he doesn't seem to have any interest in reversing his stance on falcon. We have this interaction:

Without a flip, all this glad handing is a bit premature I'd say

i think i like this post in the context of the thread

wolf getting...mad at people voting for a town without a counterwagon? doesn’t make much sense. of course you could read it as laughing in people’s faces, but it doesn’t have that vibe

Every post is made in the context of the thread, that caveat is unnecessary. But it's that ted hasn't reconsidered this read since D1, and I see this as ted trying to maintain his TR and defense of falcon.

That's followed by this question to Mac.

someone get mac to talk about falcon cuz i’m not seeing it

Additionally, ted and falcon both picked me for aim chats Day 2, and neither of them engaged me there. Sadge.

You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

[Marmot]

Looking at this from falcon's side:

Gotta admit, Ted is doing a mighty fine job of pocketing me.

Ted and Mac are wolves. I'mma go finish my beer now.

You had ted as town for awhile prior to this, what changed?

Ted Sean and then unknown people above the dotted line who slowly become below the dotted line

What are you holding your vote back for?

We have four kills

Falcon is one

Sean and jpic probably

Nobody else really inspires me, we'll figure it out

Why are you voting Ted?

From falcon's POV, we have the following posts today. In his last 7 posts (as of this moment) falcon asked 3 separate people, in some capacity, about their votes or suspicion of ted. Falcon himself hasn't talked about ted aside from "pocketing" post today. I want to hear more from him on ted.

[Marmot]

You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?

Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

[tedxtr]

From falcon's POV, we have the following posts today. In his last 7 posts (as of this moment) falcon asked 3 separate people, in some capacity, about their votes or suspicion of ted. Falcon himself hasn't talked about ted aside from "pocketing" post today. I want to hear more from him on ted.

and what makes you believe he couldn't be a wolf asking about why people are playing poorly and going for the most obv town target of all time?

it happened with jpic on me, MtG

[tedxtr]

building teams without a wolf flip is gonna win us the game

Spoiler: show

it didn't

[Marmot]

From falcon's POV, we have the following posts today. In his last 7 posts (as of this moment) falcon asked 3 separate people, in some capacity, about their votes or suspicion of ted. Falcon himself hasn't talked about ted aside from "pocketing" post today. I want to hear more from him on ted.

and what makes you believe he couldn't be a wolf asking about why people are playing poorly and going for the most obv town target of all time?

it happened with jpic on me, MtG

That could still be true and we catch a wolf. I'm not sure I understand your concern here, unless it's the association with you?

[tedxtr]

you're voting for me though, and not for him

so how does your logic play out?

[tedxtr]

you're seemingly voting for me because falcon has bad posts on me

how is it logical to flip me before him, fypov? idgi

[Marmot]

you're voting for me though, and not for him

so how does your logic play out?

I responded to your hypothetical with a hypothetical, why would I simply move my vote to falcon based on that?

[tedxtr]

because i've just explained a scenario where bad posts on me spew me town fypov

and it isn't exclusive that falcon having bad posts on me = i must be a wolf, whereas him having posts about anybody makes it more likely that he is one

[falcon45ca]

TSP has told me that part of the reason he suspects Ted is Ted's TR on me, and that having me at the top of his town list, not saying much about it, then taking credit when I get chopped and in turn chopping Mac.

TBH, this has me sus of TSP...his read on ted is based off TSP knowing both my alignment & Mac's

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine

[Marmot]

you're seemingly voting for me because falcon has bad posts on me

how is it logical to flip me before him, fypov? idgi

I believe I've made it clear that you have each made posts about each other that suggest to me that you are not interested in progressing a read or allowing the other to be yeeted. That to me looks teammate indicative. Yes the posts he's made about you is a small part of it, but I've also brought up your progression of your read on falcon.

Could you explain why you townread him rn?

[falcon45ca]

you're seemingly voting for me because falcon has bad posts on me

how is it logical to flip me before him, fypov? idgi

What bad posts do i have on you?

[Marmot]

I would rather vote falcon yes, but ted is the one with the wagon right now.

[falcon45ca]

I would rather vote falcon yes, but ted is the one with the wagon right now.

Based off what?

[falcon45ca]

It seems like your read on me (lately) is based off the idea that Ted & I are teammates, based off early TR's that Ted gave me...so why do you now think I'm a higher scum likelihood?