Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I got that impression from him. I didn't get it from you. Either because you're mafia or because I'm not picking up your tone properly. Dunno which. Its not a reason to SR you, but yeah, im not getting that same vibe from you so it doesn't factor into my read.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 amit feeels like u tr'd transcend for something that i also did, so i was just asking where you got the impression that i havent been trying to work with people/have not been frustrated for the same thing transcend was frustrated at.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 amI don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 amthats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pmI didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -
Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring thatNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pmIdk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town
Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.
He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.
what kinda vibe do i give you?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 amI got that impression from him. I didn't get it from you. Either because you're mafia or because I'm not picking up your tone properly. Dunno which. Its not a reason to SR you, but yeah, im not getting that same vibe from you so it doesn't factor into my read.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 amit feeels like u tr'd transcend for something that i also did, so i was just asking where you got the impression that i havent been trying to work with people/have not been frustrated for the same thing transcend was frustrated at.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 amI don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 amthats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pmI didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -
Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring thatNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pm
Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town
Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.
He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.
ok this is valid but why did u hide this explanation under the term "self-based"EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 am All the energy I have for it is that a lot of people's self-based play is town-centred. What I'm considering is where people are caring more about how they are perceived over other information.
cause i'm trying to solve the game? everyone's thoughts matter to me...
It's what I've always called it?Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:06 amok this is valid but why did u hide this explanation under the term "self-based"EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 am All the energy I have for it is that a lot of people's self-based play is town-centred. What I'm considering is where people are caring more about how they are perceived over other information.
perhaps i just misinterpreted how u define self-based but whatever now that i'm done being a dumbfuckEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:07 amIt's what I've always called it?Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:06 amok this is valid but why did u hide this explanation under the term "self-based"EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 am All the energy I have for it is that a lot of people's self-based play is town-centred. What I'm considering is where people are caring more about how they are perceived over other information.
Hehilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:05 amwhat kinda vibe do i give you?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 amI got that impression from him. I didn't get it from you. Either because you're mafia or because I'm not picking up your tone properly. Dunno which. Its not a reason to SR you, but yeah, im not getting that same vibe from you so it doesn't factor into my read.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 amit feeels like u tr'd transcend for something that i also did, so i was just asking where you got the impression that i havent been trying to work with people/have not been frustrated for the same thing transcend was frustrated at.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 amI don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 amthats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pmI didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -
Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that
Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.
He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.
can't forget that this initial poe reeked of suckEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:05 am Currently in Esooa/Wiml/TSP/Nanook right now.
Pending stuff from Wiml.
I don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die
this exchange also slightly gives me the feeling that ender was more concerned about my team read on him rather than my independent sr on himEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:31 amWe've been actively trying to get each other flipped at multiple points today.
Or at least I have. Can't actually tell if Mac is being fully serious or not.
who is another wolf besides ilarioNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 amI don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die
Pick one out of mac wiml Alison limeTranscend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 amwho is another wolf besides ilarioNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 amI don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die
do work on my slot, show your work, and maybe you can be town againEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:27 am If "Being scumread" = "Not answering all the questions exactly as people want me to answer them." then I guess I'll be scumread.
For the record, it takes a lot of wim for me to actually be townread no matter how many questions I answer on things, for some fucking reason, and I just do not have the energy for it today.
If me being townread requires me to follow specific steps like a mannequin.Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 amdo work on my slot, show your work, and maybe you can be town againEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:27 am If "Being scumread" = "Not answering all the questions exactly as people want me to answer them." then I guess I'll be scumread.
For the record, it takes a lot of wim for me to actually be townread no matter how many questions I answer on things, for some fucking reason, and I just do not have the energy for it today.
until then i'm going to be tunneled on u being scum
You have a point.
lol, i dont hate this post tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means
I'm thread spewed town baby
Cause i sr u for not having a solid stance on me
Yeah I make a pretty compelling argumentilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 amlol, i dont hate this post tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means
I'm thread spewed town baby
I'm still in the house...NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:38 am I'm going to bed, my kid is out of the house most of the day tomorrow so I will very likely be asleep for eod