Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]

[staypositivefriend]

all of my posts are convincing

[staypositivefriend]

the bulk of the reasoning i have to townread lime coke ultimately boils down to: "meta", and while i feel strongly about it, there's only so many times i can jump up and down and declare that LC is town based off of highly specific meta reasons before it becomes redundant

[Gira]

counterpoint: you're not being convincing right now

lmao

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.

[Gira]

i reread crichard, i forgot he had posted as much as he did

still think probably town though i admittedly have no idea how to judge his analysis because the conclusions he draws are so simplistic

[Gira]

ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.

i mean nominally at least one of them should be mafia fypov so

[staypositivefriend]

every post that TSP makes toward gira feels like it was explicitly made with the intent to pocket him

[Gira]

i'm mostly going on emotional stuff from him which is maybe not the best process but he's a weird dude and his particular salt at times in this game didn't seem fake

[alexa]

im not willing to lose to LC but i have enough reason to believe he's town that this is something i wouldn't deal with before F3

[staypositivefriend]

i'm mostly going on emotional stuff from him which is maybe not the best process but he's a weird dude and his particular salt at times in this game didn't seem fake

fwiw i think that his salt regarding the stuff with esooa was very real regardless of his alignment. i wrestled back and forth on whether or not that made him town but i don't personally find it to be a compelling reason

[Lime Coke]

but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO

yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise

Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.

[alexa]

but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO

yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise

Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.

so you're lock on SPF wolf?

[Lime Coke]

Actually you and Alexa doesn't make sense either because she took my scumcase on you and ran with it so maybe not?

[Lime Coke]

but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO

yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise

Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.

so you're lock on SPF wolf?

I'm about 65% there.

[alexa]

a trigger-happy part of me wants to vote SPF to avoid a gira/LC cross but lol i'm
kind of in a mental state tonight that makes it better-off i vote tomorrow

[staypositivefriend]

lol well we probably just lose this game then

[staypositivefriend]

lime coke do you even have any reasons to wolfread me or does it just boil down to: "everyone else is townier"?

[Lime Coke]

lime coke do you even have any reasons to wolfread me or does it just boil down to: "everyone else is townier"?

Early game stuff and "zomg everyone else is townier."

God dammit that's probably wrong too...

[staypositivefriend]

honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt

[Lime Coke]

Is Gira mafia that thinks he can get me ML'd? He wouldn't be that foolish to leave SPF and Alexa alive with me if we are all town, right?

[Lime Coke]

honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt

Valid but it would be wrong to do so.

[Lime Coke]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

[staypositivefriend]

honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt

Valid but it would be wrong to do so.

all i can say is that if i was in this position as a wolf right now i would either be pushing on your or subtly trying to get gira to vote for you instead of calling you town and explicitly telling gira that i think you're a bad vote. if you/gira don't end up crossing today then it looks increasingly likely that i will get voted and killed, so in any world i would be playing completely unstrategically as a wolf right now

the only world where this strategy would make sense if is me/gira are teamed with each other

[Lime Coke]

honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt

Valid but it would be wrong to do so.

all i can say is that if i was in this position as a wolf right now i would either be pushing on your or subtly trying to get gira to vote for you instead of calling you town and explicitly telling gira that i think you're a bad vote. if you/gira don't end up crossing today then it looks increasingly likely that i will get voted and killed, so in any world i would be playing completely unstrategically as a wolf right now

the only world where this strategy would make sense if is me/gira are teamed with each other

You're right, good point.

[Gira]

wow game went dead huh

[staypositivefriend]

i'm still here unfortunately

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.

i mean nominally at least one of them should be mafia fypov so

Yes but then ones town and if they’re both mafia then LC is town

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

[staypositivefriend]

if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours

[Lime Coke]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

Maybe you're just mafia and the other 4 are town?

Marmot accidentally created a setup with 2 mafia members and no one had the heart to tell him.

[Gira]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m pretty focussed as mafia I find my kill and go for it smh


Though maybe LC’s suggestion would explain why CRich raged

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed

Ok teammate

[Lime Coke]

Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed

But why is TSP trying to get you ML'ed?

[TonyStarkPrime]

(The fourth person was myself)

[Lime Coke]

God dammit TSP you didn't read the script. Where the fuck did they hire you from?

[Gira]

if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours

voting LC in 30 minutes

if you strongly object to this possibility then vote before then

[Lime Coke]

I was the last person I expected to be voted but, fair enough?

[Gira]

if you weren't expecting that you haven't been reading my posts

[Lime Coke]

Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

[Gira]

Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

why would i do that

[Lime Coke]

Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

why would i do that

Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.

[Lime Coke]

You're probably expecting me to explode but not really gonna happen.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Genuinely at a loss in the gamestate

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh right try to make LC explode, an old favorite

[TonyStarkPrime]

But like voting for LC is suicidal in this position, right?

[Gira]

Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

why would i do that

Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.

i don't get why you assume that's how i play this

[staypositivefriend]

if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours

voting LC in 30 minutes

if you strongly object to this possibility then vote before then

there's a 99% chance that we lose the game if i vote first even if i somehow manage to vote correctly so im not going to

[Lime Coke]

Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

why would i do that

Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.

i don't get why you assume that's how i play this

Well you're doing it so...

[Gira]

But like voting for LC is suicidal in this position, right?

possibly, or just a throw

but i'm different from you in that i don't base my decisions off assumed win probability, i just play for the moral victory and trying to be right and if people misread me, well i get annoyed but it's on the ultimately