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Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:02 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:09 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:08 pm Raskol's in hiding today, 9 people are dead and only 1 was mafia

that's terrible odds for having 24 people
flip side: town killed one mafia, and, our 2nd wagon was 3p.

so, its just night actions that have fucked us
That was @ColinIsCool stealing creature role
What?

We believe you stole creatures role and alignment on account of you claiming 3p, and, creature dying flipping a role that was 3p.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm**

IBA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:58 pm Honestly a lot of upside to killing Daughter even if she is town

Like mainly in reducing the amount of reading I have to do

Well, that and then we don't have to worry about a slank vig on autopilot

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it

You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it
You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:00 pm @WindwardAway

who did you target last night

Nutella
And I believe I got redirected to someone else on account of her ability

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:06 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it
You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win

How is it possible that I imagined that entire thread discussion wtf

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:07 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it
You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win

I get a point for each time someone in chat tells me their role. 3 points = victory

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:08 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:07 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it
You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win
I get a point for each time someone in chat tells me their role. 3 points = victory

Like in thread or do you have hoods n stuff

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:08 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:00 pm @WindwardAway

who did you target last night
Nutella
And I believe I got redirected to someone else on account of her ability

@WindwardAway I dont think so.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:09 pm**

[8] Guillotine: Schiavetto, Sabiplz, Valentine, LordQuas, Manny, Chelsea, Le petit poussin, nutella
[3] Cape90: risiinq-, Creature, WindwardAway
[3] Creature: Mungbean, DeeZees, falcon45ca
[2] Valentine: IBA, ColinIsCool
[1] Chelsea: Guillotine
[1] DeeZees: DaughterOfOmega
[1] Le petit poussin: TheFloyd73
[1] LordQuas: Inawordyes
[1] Mungbean: Cape90

nice.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:10 pm**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:25 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:24 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:23 pm nvm no it's still 9 v 3 v 1 v 1
how?

if creature's alignment is taken by Colin?
so when creature's alignment was taken, that means that they basically switched alignments which is why creature flipped colin's initial role and died (so 3 initial 3p -> 2 initial 3p)

that doesn't change the amount of wolves or town

I don't understand any of this. Doesn't Creature's flip say that Creature took someone else's alignment who dies at end of D1? How did I get Creature's alignment if I'm still alive?

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:10 pm**

Ok so I just skimmed some old posts around pg 20 and also Colin's ISO, he's right, he did NOT say he steals someone's role, but I couldve sworn someone said they did because I don't believe that I was so drunk in the thread that I imagined someone saying it and then that exact role flipped.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:11 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:08 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:00 pm @WindwardAway

who did you target last night
Nutella
And I believe I got redirected to someone else on account of her ability
@WindwardAway I dont think so.

Well then, how did she die?

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:11 pm**

Ummm i'm overwhelmed like i said so i just say i'm confirmable role if someone votes me but since it was colin who is dying i can't confirm it yet >.>

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:31 pm you two are wrong.

Colin has taken Creatures role and alignment

Creature dies flipping Colins role

Is how I interpret it

Not gonna mince words ... are you still drunk?

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm**

Valentine wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:11 pm Ummm i'm overwhelmed like i said so i just say i'm confirmable role if someone votes me but since it was colin who is dying i can't confirm it yet >.>

not really good enough

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm**

mac literally lied to me and told me this was a simple game. Skipping day phase omega wolfsided bs role lol. 6 town deaths for free

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:57 pm just vote collin

One L please

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm**

the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:08 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:07 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?
This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?
Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it
You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win
I get a point for each time someone in chat tells me their role. 3 points = victory
Like in thread or do you have hoods n stuff

Neighborhoods

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm**

Colin, I still dont understand how your role works.

What do you mean tells you in chat? idgi

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm mac literally lied to me and told me this was a simple game. Skipping day phase omega wolfsided bs role lol. 6 town deaths for free

Same thought here lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm
Valentine wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:11 pm Ummm i'm overwhelmed like i said so i just say i'm confirmable role if someone votes me but since it was colin who is dying i can't confirm it yet >.>
not really good enough

:c

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm mac literally lied to me and told me this was a simple game. Skipping day phase omega wolfsided bs role lol. 6 town deaths for free
Same thought here lol

AND we killed wolf kp d1 too

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role

I didn't take it that way at all. That would be devious if true and I guess I can see where the leap is to accusing me since I'm openly 3p, but if so, it would be a different person.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm**

lol Colin who did you hood each night

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:10 pm Ok so I just skimmed some old posts around pg 20 and also Colin's ISO, he's right, he did NOT say he steals someone's role, but I couldve sworn someone said they did because I don't believe that I was so drunk in the thread that I imagined someone saying it and then that exact role flipped.

Someone else theorized that but as I pointed out, the narrator in Kate Bush's song can't actually switch places with her partner (it's the point of the song ...) and neither can I. I know this isn't a defense, but ... I really can't. And if I could, I probably wouldn't have announced the possibility to the thread, lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:17 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:12 pm mac literally lied to me and told me this was a simple game. Skipping day phase omega wolfsided bs role lol. 6 town deaths for free
Same thought here lol
AND we killed wolf kp d1 too

my ego really needs creature to be scum too

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm**

this game is a thesis in Holstering powers being better than ever using

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm**

14 players
8v3v1v1 +1 mystery
Mystery = One of whatever Creature was. Either an extra town, mafia, or we do actually have 9 town and there's only 2 3ps

@ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm Colin, I still dont understand how your role works.

What do you mean tells you in chat? idgi

So I target someone at night and I get to neighborhood with them. If I can get them to tell me their role truthfully, I get a point. If I learn someone's role some other way — for example through a flip or, for some unrelated reason, I learned someone else's night 1 — I don't get anything. If I get 3 points, I fulfill my wincon.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role
I didn't take it that way at all. That would be devious if true and I guess I can see where the leap is to accusing me since I'm openly 3p, but if so, it would be a different person.

I don't see how Creature would have died otherwise. What seemed to have happen seems perfectly in line with the roles mechanics

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm Colin, I still dont understand how your role works.

What do you mean tells you in chat? idgi
So I target someone at night and I get to neighborhood with them. If I can get them to tell me their role truthfully, I get a point. If I learn someone's role some other way — for example through a flip or, for some unrelated reason, I learned someone else's night 1 — I don't get anything. If I get 3 points, I fulfill my wincon.

who did you target

it should be confirming

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm**

Who the heck swapped with creature?? This is going to drive me insane now

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night

I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm Who the heck swapped with creature?? This is going to drive me insane now

And also, who in their right mind would swap with Creature

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

Windy is now in my lock town or the greatest actress in the wiorld

still missing my long meandering posts though I might have to go get conq's meta read on you

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night
I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be

that is very interesting

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night
I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be

and you didnt think she would die

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm @ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud

I think I've covered it.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm**

@Chelsea you in a hood with Colin

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm Who the heck swapped with creature?? This is going to drive me insane now
And also, who in their right mind would swap with Creature

i would assume someone who had a 3p/mafia read on him. Creature actually seems like a decent target for that reason because you either become 3p/mafia or you clear out a town from the POE you're joining

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm @ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud
I think I've covered it.

yeah posted at same time my b

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night
I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be
and you didnt think she would die

Nutella or Chelsea? Well, either way, no. I'm not aware of any negative effects on people who I target/who choose to trust me. If they did die, then nutella would have been killed earlier, I think?

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:22 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm @ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud
I think I've covered it.
yeah posted at same time my b

No worries ... I just want to be clear that this is pretty much all it is. If there's more to it it's because I've misunderstood something from the mods LOL

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:22 pm**

no I mean more

nutella was the only confirmed town player in the game (Mod confirmed), and, voted guillo.

you tried, two times in a row, to get in to a hood with them despite this. did you not think mafia would kill her?

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:23 pm**

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role
I didn't take it that way at all. That would be devious if true and I guess I can see where the leap is to accusing me since I'm openly 3p, but if so, it would be a different person.
I don't see how Creature would have died otherwise. What seemed to have happen seems perfectly in line with the roles mechanics

This is interesting. I took Creature's death as him dying before he could use that power, I think, but your reading could be the correct one

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:23 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm Windy is now in my lock town or the greatest actress in the wiorld

still missing my long meandering posts though I might have to go get conq's meta read on you

You're also in my townreads
I just realized I forgot to write that in my readlist earlier but yeah

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:25 pm**

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:22 pm no I mean more

nutella was the only confirmed town player in the game (Mod confirmed), and, voted guillo.

you tried, two times in a row, to get in to a hood with them despite this. did you not think mafia would kill her?

Oh gotcha. Well I figured she'd be an obvious protection candidate so I felt good about my chances, better than if I were asking someone I have never talked to in my life.

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:25 pm**

I believe Colin's claim
And I'm sorry for the complete mixup, I'm gonna have to keep backreading to figure out why I thought someone claimed a role thief

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