Battlestar Galactica Mafia - GAME OVER

[Silverwolf]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

I mean... That's what I do.

I'm sure you are not the only one...........

[DrWilgy]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

I mean... That's what I do.

I'm sure you are not the only one...........

No, I definitely am.

[Spacedaisy]

Ok, popping off for a bit. I'll be back.


May 11, 5:49 pm EST - juliets
May 11, 11:49 pm EST - Scotty
May 12, 5:49 am EST - SVS
May 12, 11:49 am EST - G-Man
May 12, 5:49 pm EST - juliets
May 12, 11:49 pm EST - Bea
May 13, 5:49 am EST - SVS
May 13, 11:49 am EST -
May 13, 5:49 pm EST -
May 13, 11:49 pm EST -


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Linki - Ok, bea, how about May 12, 11:49 pm? (And yes, your time calculation is accurate!) I'll tentatively add you to that slot.

Linki - Matt, Logic, FTW!

Linki - ok, got you too juliets!

I was going to say I could do 5:49 tomorrow, because I realized that I
could, but I see it's already taken. I feel bad that I haven't been able to volunteer, but tomorrow is my day off, and I am free at that time. Anyway, Juliets, I'm happy to take it off your hands if you want. None of the other times work on my schedule.

I can take both or either of the 11:49 slots on May 13. I'm off that day and my husband is going away to spend time with the good DrWilgy And see The Cure.

[bea]

To be perfectly honest I think I might be part cylon part bicycle.

Ado you have any feels good or bad toward any other player? Why or why not?

That's a bit of a personal question. *blushes*

yes - it really is - I know...

but life is expensive in Finland - and I'd like to know how much money I should float your way. Ya dig?

linki- silver - I get where you are coming from. I really really do. FWIW Day 4 is my cut off point. I feel like low posters are fair game at about day 4.

By then - I've seen what I need to see of people like DF or BR to have *some* sort of opinion. They are players who are NEVER going to post as much as you do. But when they are civ - their small posts contain meat in them. See my discussion with svs re: BR. I didn't ask for a break because of RL - but enough people here know what RL is for me being the GM of a pizza place in a big city and holiday weekend is holiday weekend. For any of that you could have lead a lynch against me and it would have been low poster justified. I'm only very lucky that I had these two days to catch up.

Who of the people who have been vocal do you have suspish on? Cuz something tells me Cavil is around here. And he's a talky SOB.


linki again with daisy - WAIT WOT??? YOUR HUBBY AND WILGY ARE GOING TO SEE THE HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT ME???

[bea]

THE CURE - NOT JUST THE. OMG I'M SO FRACKING JELLY RIGHT NOW.

[Matt]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.

Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!

[bea]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.

Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!

Cuz our civ BTS was so much fun in Epi's Dune game. "matt stfu!!!!" lol

[Silverwolf]

linki- silver - I get where you are coming from. I really really do. FWIW Day 4 is my cut off point. I feel like low posters are fair game at about day 4.

By then - I've seen what I need to see of people like DF or BR to have *some* sort of opinion. They are players who are NEVER going to post as much as you do. But when they are civ - their small posts contain meat in them. See my discussion with svs re: BR. I didn't ask for a break because of RL - but enough people here know what RL is for me being the GM of a pizza place in a big city and holiday weekend is holiday weekend. For any of that you could have lead a lynch against me and it would have been low poster justified. I'm only very lucky that I had these two days to catch up.

Who of the people who have been vocal do you have suspish on? Cuz something tells me Cavil is around here. And he's a talky SOB.

I don't mind if people are low quantiy, high quality posters. It's when they post next to nothing for days that makes me want to get rid of them.

I don't know, the most vocal people seem townish enough. I still think Epi is scum. He's not contributing much of anything of merit and it sucks he's getting a pass because of the character in the show but this could be because we haven't gotten the res ship yet. I want to hear more from LC like he said he's gonna do and then I'm voting nutella for now. Juliets is surprisingly null and that worries me also. D'Farady would be a fine lynch as far as I'm concerned. Vompatti would be a PL for me right now tbh. IAWY bothered me but I am willing to give Wilgy a chance here. Nerolunar could be scum. Sok.....however you spell that, could be as well. Some of Spacedaisy's posts have content but she's posted a whole lot of nothing also.

Everyone I haven't mentioned in that paragraph is a light to moderate townread for me.

[Silverwolf]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.

Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!

That would of been so much fun!!

[Matt]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.

Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!

Cuz our civ BTS was so much fun in Epi's Dune game. "matt stfu!!!!" lol

Haha omg I was so hilariously wrong in that game (it's a pattern). Still won, tho.

I'm going to throw out my only full civ read as of now...

Marmy!!!

(a close second would be Epi...maybe...)

[LoRab]

I went ahead and

voted Long Con

Sorry, dude, but your posts are just reading more bad to me than good. It's more gut than anything.

And I'm under the weather and really tired, and don't trust that I won't fall asleep at the computer, so wanted to vote now rather than forget or sleep through it.

[Matt]

I'm going to attempt a save of LC and put a second vote on...

Zebra

Let's all follow the Marmot!

[Ricochet]

Reviewed nutella based on her activity and the cases against her - actually I'd call only JJJ's case a proper one, because G-Man just brought up and then stuck to a single idea (the "Deborah" angle, which, admittedly is a more notorious case of a lurker excusing himself at every step intentionally; still quite rare, though). [It actually makes me ponder a bit on G-Man's ultimately contribution and decision, tbh.]

-- stuff that doesn't hold as much weight for me: her seemingly perspective on ika, in spite of all meta assurances (I don't think it's that uncommon or even the only case in which a player imposed his own perspective on how these two players interact, read each other and have resolute faith in perfect alignment discerning i.e. didn't LoRab also have a long contradictory talk with ika?); the downgrade of her views on ika from suss to annoyance (lingering vexation, especially in the context of that event that happened, can't say that surprises me or that it would be alignment indicative); her post-flip conflicting views on getting rid of Epig eventually and yet admonishing those who insisted the traditional perspective of the game design (not conflicting if an agenda is at stake no wait, her rebuttal is that she reconsidered the lore impact afterwards)
[/strike]

-- stuff that does: her drive-by "I'm listening" to Matt's (rather nitpicky) suss on JJJ (this coming after she questioned Matt, instead, on why he suspects LC); her unbuild claim that Epig would have reached top choice that Day, had she not missed the vote; the dynamic of potentially sliding off ika to open new picks (this is only slightly, because I said above that the downgrade itself doesn't look so problematic)

Hard to say, overall. Yes, her dynamic is looking shaky and inconsistent, plus right now she seems stuck in rebuttals, whereas I would feel the need, being already Day Two, to see more leads and reads (even slightly more than just GMan and Zebra, which she did bring up). Some of her "that's how I play / that's how I do thing" is what I'd expect to hear, on a basic level of defending. My inclination is to rule for a further phase of scrutiny.

[Ricochet]

I'm going to attempt a save of LC and put a second vote on...

Zebra

Let's all follow the Marmot!

I want anything to do but that, if that's how you put it.

[Glorfindel]

So Say We All!

Sorry, posting between interviews today is going to be tricky...

Linki - Thanks everyone. Glorf, what of IAWY... or mine would you describe as erratic compared to his normal behavior? I should probably check the player list and past votes now...

IAWY and I haven't played a lot together but I like and respect him enormously. From past experience I think he is only too well aware that I would almost never vote to lynch him - in fact, in previous games I've gone out of my way to defend him. That combined with his earlier post about me just struck me as really random. It's a personal thing I guess

[bea]

talk to me matt - why are you trying to save LC?

[sig]

hello!

I'm done my paper for the time.
If anyone has any questions let me know and I'll answer.

Welcome Wilgy.

[bea]

why do you really think zeeb is the best option? I'm torn because I can see the potential good and bad in both of them and the two people I trust most (you and indi) have voted opposite.

linki -sig - where is your vote leaning and why?

[S~V~S]

My vote is Nutella. LC sounds more sincere to me in his defenses, although that whole evil glee thing still nags at me. I think Rico v. Zeeb may be civ/civ, so I prefer not to vote there. But the tip point for me was her feint at Zebra. It did not feel to me like Nutella believed it. I also thnk her posts re ika/Epi did not feel sincere to me.

*Voting Nutella*

linki @ bea, I feel similarly re trust, but trusting someone =/= following their suspicions.

[Ricochet]

Matt, are you supporting LC simply because you happen to agree with his pull-a-random-move tactics within the sector check? Cause that's all I'm reading from past posts in his favor. In the post preceding this one in which you mention or address LC, he actually stood at "ping" level.

Also, what are your thoughts on Zebra? Glossing over the posts I noticed you used her vote post to get in touch with her and ask her a completely different question. I'm not picking anything you said on her except a call for chat, banter and talking about past forum / mafia identities.\

[Ricochet]

Matt, are you supporting LC simply because you happen to agree with his pull-a-random-move tactics within the sector check? Cause that's all I'm reading from past posts in his favor. In the post preceding this one in which you mention or address LC, he actually stood at "ping" level.

Also, what are your thoughts on Zebra? Glossing over the posts I noticed you used her vote post to get in touch with her and ask her a completely different question. I'm not picking anything you said on her except a call for chat, banter and talking about past forum / mafia identities.\

Oh silly me, you voted Zebra!

[sig]

Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.

[sig]

Also why did Vomp self vote?

[nutella]

-- stuff that does: her drive-by "I'm listening" to Matt's (rather nitpicky) suss on JJJ (this coming after she questioned Matt, instead, on why he suspects LC); her unbuild claim that Epig would have reached top choice that Day, had she not missed the vote; the dynamic of potentially sliding off ika to open new picks (this is only slightly, because I said above that the downgrade itself doesn't look so problematic)

1) was that about the "PLAN" thing? idk, it was a zany Matt theory, but I could have potentially seen it as something real -- we already know Golden is using keyword/trigger mechanics. I also just wanted to hear more from JJJ at that point in general because he wasn't posting as much as he usually does.

2) I'm a little confused about your wording here but I think you mean when I said I would have voted for Epi. I would have. On Day 1 I vote for whoever my strongest ping is at the time for whatever reason, and the last time I had been in thread that top ping was Epi.

3) Again confused by your wording. Don't really know what you're saying there. On day 1 I follow wherever whichever slight pings may take me, and am likely to drop early pings in favor of stronger ones.

Linki @ SVS: I wouldn't say something if I didn't believe it, at least at the time. My opinions can change between posts and when presented with new defenses or information, but my suspicion/thoughts on zebra have all been genuine.

[S~V~S]

@sig~ this is the best case. I feel that her subsequent responses & reactions to suspicion feels insincere to me.

Golden has replaced this quote with a link to the post that was quoted.

[Polo]

Oops, something weird happened.

[S~V~S]

Wow, I did not spoiler it, I just quoted it :O

[Ricochet]

Zebra's tally seriously has carp votes on it.

[S~V~S]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... la#p274912

Here's a link, sig, sorry. Not sure how that happened.

[bea]

@ svs - I know - and I do get what you are saying re: LA.

I really do.


frack. this is always hard

@ sig - I'd only lynch epi to hope that in the reveal it would say Athena was civ aligned.

And no - the rez ships are very much in tune with the lore of the show. I'm willing to bet dollars to dougnuts that we have to kill x number of rez ships before we find the hub. Less Rosland's powers kick in.

[Polo]

I think I'll abstain from voting tonight. There's a lot of stuff going on and I don't think I can isolate everyone in time for the vote, but I'll give it a try.

[S~V~S]

I think I'll abstain from voting tonight. There's a lot of stuff going on and I don't think I can isolate everyone in time for the vote, but I'll give it a try.

[nutella]

I think I'll abstain from voting tonight. There's a lot of stuff going on and I don't think I can isolate everyone in time for the vote, but I'll give it a try.

It's pretty frowned upon here to skip votes and you can get punished for missing votes, jsyk

[Ricochet]

-- stuff that does: her drive-by "I'm listening" to Matt's (rather nitpicky) suss on JJJ (this coming after she questioned Matt, instead, on why he suspects LC); her unbuild claim that Epig would have reached top choice that Day, had she not missed the vote; the dynamic of potentially sliding off ika to open new picks (this is only slightly, because I said above that the downgrade itself doesn't look so problematic)

1) was that about the "PLAN" thing? idk, it was a zany Matt theory, but I could have potentially seen it as something real -- we already know Golden is using keyword/trigger mechanics. I also just wanted to hear more from JJJ at that point in general because he wasn't posting as much as he usually does.

2) I'm a little confused about your wording here but I think you mean when I said I would have voted for Epi. I would have. On Day 1 I vote for whoever my strongest ping is at the time for whatever reason, and the last time I had been in thread that top ping was Epi.

3) Again confused by your wording. Don't really know what you're saying there. On day 1 I follow wherever whichever slight pings may take me, and am likely to drop early pings in favor of stronger ones.

Linki @ SVS: I wouldn't say something if I didn't believe it, at least at the time. My opinions can change between posts and when presented with new defenses or information, but my suspicion/thoughts on zebra have all been genuine.

1) yes, that. especially in relation with resolutely questioning another suss Matt just threw at someone ("LC might be bad"), here you were swiftly indulging in an even more wacky suss

2) by unbuild I meant that nothing in your ISO strongly illustrates how Epig became a valid choice for you; your only thought was picking up someone else's view on him

3) I think JJJ expressed it better, then. Same post as above, basically. It could be read as "Ok, I'm dropping this now and trying to find new names."

[LoRab]

LA's latest posts are not feeling so good to me. She is starting to feel cornered baddie.

[Ricochet]

I think I'll abstain from voting tonight. There's a lot of stuff going on and I don't think I can isolate everyone in time for the vote, but I'll give it a try.

My advice is giving it a try.

[Epignosis]

I'm sorry- we had unexpected company.

Scanning...

Complete.

Mafia team: DrWilgy, Vompatti, MetalMarsh89

Calculating...

Chance of civilian success: 0%

Epi, do you not think Metalmarsh is showing any baddie tendencies? He's on my list for a potential vote tonight. Who do you see as a viable candidate for today (color me embarrassed if you just said it somewhere).

MM always shows mafia tendencies. That's his game. I respect that. If you want to lynch him, I won't oppose it, but at this stage, I'm not personally convinced.

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

I think Mothers Day weekend is a logical time to give people the benefit of the doubt.

And the strategy you name is used from time to time, but actually only works for some people and for a limited time. That is why I don't begrudge people who want to lynch low-posters Day 1. I think that's a legitimate strategy, even thought the ones supporting the idea get shouted down.

Some people here are even immune to the Day 1 lynch too! Try lynching, for example, juliets on Day 1. It will never happen. I got her Day 2 once though.

[Epignosis]

I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.

Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.

Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!

Cuz our civ BTS was so much fun in Epi's Dune game. "matt stfu!!!!" lol

Haha omg I was so hilariously wrong in that game (it's a pattern). Still won, tho.

I'm going to throw out my only full civ read as of now...

Marmy!!!

(a close second would be Epi...maybe...)

You're welcome.

[Golden]

Wow, I did not spoiler it, I just quoted it :O

It's something to do with the fact that Jay had already stuffed up the tags in the post that people keep quoting.

[Long Con]

Spoiler: show

Also, can we look into one of my earliest in-game points, which was about MetalMarsh89 locking a vote early on with zero argumentation, to which he has thus far added nothing but fluff and banter?

My favorite was his explanation akin to "I wanted to vote you in another game so here it is" and even more lol-able is Epi's lay down of "oh, no problem then!" Epi even labels Mm as town after that, if I recall. What the frak, Helo!

Epi is bad and MM is not.

Rico is probably Civ.

Long Con, certified taker of stances.

Yeah, I've been really stancey this game. My unsupported stances, I'd say, are indicative of gut reads. Who even knows how to find baddies in this game? General Win Conditions are not displayed, we only have racial groups and show lore. I'm doing what I can with guesses to fill in the rest.

Spoiler: show

I just went into my other game and that is the one that ends before I get home not this one. I should be home in more than enough time for this poll.

Epi is bad and MM is not.

Rico is probably Civ.

Tell me what I am missing. I feel fairly good about both Epi & MM, but not Rico.

I dunnno, just gut reads. Feel great about the Epi one for some reason.

ika, when I play with Black Rock, I specifically avoid discussing her for at least a few days, because she's my wife. I suggest you and Silverwolf give it a try, I'm so over seeing 100 posts between the two of you on Day 1 frankly.

He called them gut reads, which on Day 1 isn't necessarily a bad thing. I still have no idea what inspired them though, or why he felt great about his Epignosis read.

Some things Epi said made me think he had the goals that I would imagine a certain role that I'd like to eliminate would have. I wasn't right about that. My lack of sharing specific reasons isn't alignment-indicative.

Spoiler: show

The above posts has lots of emoticons.

Are you thinking that might be indicative of scumminess? Or are you, for some reason, implying that a concern for 'how your post looks' is something that is worth looking at, something that's a bit of a baddie tell? That's the read I got off this post.

Linki: and now you are overdoing it to make it seem like just a cool thing you're doing, not a baddie tell at all.

Linki2: Well, if that's all it is, it just cost you cred points with me, sorry.

sig got a little shit for his self-admission of emoticon abuse, something I read as good-natured joking from him and not something that means much of anything. If sig is town, then this is an example of a post that could be capitalizing on sig's tendency to get himself into trouble.

It could very well be that sig blundered into an innocent bit of trouble there. I'm not denying that he's pretty adept at it. I didn't read it the same as you, I see undercurrents of hastily-covered guilt.

Spoiler: show

My lists...

GOOD:
ika
Silverwolf
S~V~S

BAD:
Epignosis
Matt
sig

Reiterating the same Day 1 reads. Only putting this here to reference later if necessary.

Spoiler: show

God it was a joke.

Since my post had so many faces. Like I usually don't put so many. I think LC might be mafia, he is setting me up like mafia LC will do sometimes and that isn't very nice. :P

I didn't set you up, sig, you set yourself up.

Ehh. The highlighted portion is a rather candid admission of what I just said, but without the implied "town sig sets himself up inadvertently in every game he plays" angle.

Yup, could be. I thought it looked more like "baddie sig had a slippish moment".

Spoiler: show

Yes! Let's go off on some diagonal after reaching the other corner.

Also, I want to lynch ika, he is protesting way too much, and I think he's a Cylon himself. How better to hide than to act like a huge anti-Cylon bigot?

Ika, are you a cylon and do you want us to try to lynch Epi again without destroying a Ress ship so that you can Nightkill in peace and we waste our time not discovering any other Cylons?

I agree with this, very strongly.

Regarding the highlighted portion: allow me to ask you the same question, Long Con. You've sworn repeatedly to destroy Epignosis because he's a cylon without regard for any possibility that he might not a bad one.

The only good Cylon is a dead Cylon, yes. I'm sure it's a fantastic way to hide. I invite Gaius to check me tonight, because I am human.

Also, the conviction you convey in your suspicion of ika strikes me as fake. ika was a very easy target at that point because his screaming and spamming was driving people crazy, but I don't think he was remotely suspicious and I doubt you really did either.

Spoiler: show

Yeah, skip the sad song option.

@Indi, I can take the 5:47 AM one tomorrow.

Linki, you got that, cool. If the square changes, colorfully bold it in the thread to me, OK?

You got it, dude!

Actually, this goes for anyone really. I'm not "in charge" of the sorties, I'm just keeping a record. So anyone, if you feel it prudent to change our plan, please feel free to do so. Just make it ultra clear in the thread (especially for our early morning pilots, they are still sleepy). I'm open to beginning a diagonal, or switching to random too.

Also, I was wrong about my sortie time. I still have 6 minutes to wait.

Maybe I'll try to cut in and send us to a random square for fun.

I'm not really qualified to say much about the resurrection ship chase and people's coordinated effort to locate it, but I have caught rumblings that Long Con goofed at some point in the process? He projected that goof in this post.

"for fun"

This kind of reminds me of the 2015 champs game when MacDougall and DrWilgy among others were obsessed with forcing tied tallies "for fun", even though it was clearly not in town's best interests. They were mafia naturally.

Not even close to the same. I stole a single sortie, that's all. If D5 had been a Rez Ship, it would have been awesome. It's not like I'm the Unibomber.

Spoiler: show

I am 0% in agreement of switching to random picks. It has to be a clear pattern.

I think you are a human.

Long Con, certified taker of stances.

I have the certification on my wall right by my desk here. Don't make me take a photo of it and post it.

Ok, holy crap, JJJ's post is way too long.

[S~V~S]

LA's latest posts are not feeling so good to me. She is starting to feel cornered baddie.

She is putting me in mind of her game in Recruitment. That same "Anyone but me" thing.

@Golden, I will not quote it again, sorry

[bea]

la - you are here -

who to vote for and why?

svs says you are her most likely vote.

I'm guessing you don't feel the same way as svs - who would you vote for and why?

srrsly so much linki

x 1000 and a host warning. wtf.

[Long Con]

Seriously, this JJJ thing justy goes on and on. Back to it in a bit.

[nutella]

LA's latest posts are not feeling so good to me. She is starting to feel cornered baddie.

I am neither cornered nor a baddie I'm afraid I'll get lynched for basically the same reasons I do in almost every game, it's really frustrating at this point but I don't know what to do since no matter how or what I post people seem to read it as suspicious.

linki @ SVS I have no memory of how I played in recruitment (I assume you're talking about the latest one) and I don't know what you mean by "anyone but me" but I swear I'm just innocent and clueless this game.

linki @ bea: I might still vote for zebra even though I feel less strongly about her, but I kind of think I'll be voting more out of self preservation at this point and she has some votes to compete with those on me anyway. I'd rather not vote LC but if it ends up being a choice between voting him and getting lynched myself I'll do it. I'll wait as close to the end as I can though (without missing it this time )

[Epignosis]

Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.

"the" ship.

And I've already "flipped." What makes you think you're going to get anything new the second time around?

[Silverwolf]

I felt like zebra vs Rico was civ v civ. I won't be voting for Zebra today.

LC's defense seemed genuine in his latest posts and I feel like he's probably human.

nutella I've had an FoS on for awhile and I haven't seen anything in her defense posts to make me change my mind. Her overall tone is pingy plus I laid out how I didn't like some of her though process in regards to ika and Epi earlier. She was just going with the flow and then chimed in more when under pressure but really mostly to just defend herself. Of the choices today, she's the one that I'm most comfortable with. There's some low quality posters I would also consider lynching but I don't think that would be too popular and a waste of a vote. I feel best about a vote for nutella right now.

Also, I'm going to bed early tonight because I have a minor surgical procedure tomorrow so might not be around much before EoD or tomorrow either.

Vote: nutella

[Epignosis]

The only good Cylon is a dead Cylon, yes. I'm sure it's a fantastic way to hide. I invite Gaius to check me tonight, because I am human.

I want to help you, but you aren't making this easy.

[S~V~S]

I already voted, bea.

LA's latest posts are not feeling so good to me. She is starting to feel cornered baddie.

I am neither cornered nor a baddie I'm afraid I'll get lynched for basically the same reasons I do in almost every game, it's really frustrating at this point but I don't know what to do since no matter how or what I post people seem to read it as suspicious.

linki @ SVS I have no memory of how I played in recruitment (I assume you're talking about the latest one) and I don't know what you mean by "anyone but me" but I swear I'm just innocent and clueless this game.

linki @ bea: I might still vote for zebra even though I feel less strongly about her, but I kind of think I'll be voting more out of self preservation at this point and she has some votes to compete with those on me anyway. I'd rather not vote LC but if it ends up being a choice between voting him and getting lynched myself I'll do it. I'll wait as close to the end as I can though (without missing it this time )

Yes, the most recent recruitment where you were bad.

[Long Con]

The only good Cylon is a dead Cylon, yes. I'm sure it's a fantastic way to hide. I invite Gaius to check me tonight, because I am human.

I want to help you, but you aren't making this easy.

Ok, what do you want in return for your help?

[Long Con]

Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.

"the" ship.

And I've already "flipped." What makes you think you're going to get anything new the second time around?

Yeah, let's lynch someone else... truly, we need a test subject - a control group. We need to see someone's alignment so that we know that "alignment" even exists in this game!