The Syndicate

And has Sloonei been around? They are the only vote missing.

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:MM moved his vote from JJJ to BWT of all people, when he could have moved it to me to force a tie. Does this have anything to do with him saying he wanted to be lynched earlier? Does he have a protect or similar power?

The toothy bird is evil. His life should be taken before that of any marmot (especially the innocent Rosa). He's in league with the evil JagBear!

Why do you think BWT waited for others to vote you?

He doesn't care about marmots, only his own well-being. He should be eliminated before another poor marmot takes the brunt.

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:I think JJJ killing Vomps N1 fits because he would be most prone to wanting to eliminate wild cards. For what it's worth.

There's a good chance Vompatti was scum. What does that mean to you?

??? Wait I must have missed this. Isn't there only 1 mafia team? Do you think it was the SK?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not following the Moya stuff right now, but tbh I'm not that concerned with it. Someone can explain it to me later.

It's pretty simple I think. Sleep was one of the roles that killed Golden. Sleep doesn't have a kill until it has inherited the kill from Moya, who had it first. That doesn't happen until Moya is dead according to what we can see in the role descriptions. This suggests that Moya has died already, and the only player it can really be if so is Vompatti. The Motherfucker = Redeemer role provides an explanation for how a baddie Vompatti could have died on Night 1.

Oh wow. Ok, I can't even see on my phone where sleep killed him. I think the picture cuts off. But I'll take your word for it.

If that's the case, then never mind. I need to go back to the drawing board

I feel better about Scotty now with this response. If he was Vomps' teammate, I can't see him making this kind of post.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spoiler: show

MovingPictures07 wrote:MP's End of Day 3 Rainbow - GY!BE Rainbow #9

Strong Town:
timmer

Moderate Town:
Epignosis
Sloonei
Boomslang

Weak Town:
JaggedJimmyJay
triceratopzeuhl
birdwithteeth11
nijuukyugou
sig

Weak Mafia:
LoRab

Moderate Mafia:
Dom
Metalmarsh89

Strong Mafia:
Scotty

This should say Day 4. Holy shit, it's Day 4.

Oops, I forgot BWT. Sorry dude. I'll add him in the weak town.

Didn't you say I was a potential teammate of JJJ's early? What made you move me back to weak town?

Fine, here's your answers

Dom wrote: Patterns of what?

I've explained pretty thoroughly, I don't see at all what you dont get. You appear in multiple leads from known civvies, more often than any other player. Hence why I'm looking at your posts to guess your teammate.

Dom wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Even if you lynch me today, remaining civvies can still easily win if they listen to me. I'm sort of resigned to the fact that I die every game I ever play (it's why all my victories are as mafia or indy, being alive isn't typically a win condition for them) and even if you don't lynch me, Dom or JJJ will nightkill me before the game is over.

This is setting me up both ways, which makes me feel worse about you. It shows that you don't care if I am civ at all.

This makes no sense and I don't understand how you extracted that conclusion from my post.

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MM for the drama, lol!

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, I messed up with BWT; I added him in later as a weak town.

You're not moving down; you were a moderate mafia last time (a full cycle previously) as well; I noted that I found timmer's points compelling.

No reassessment despite new evidence? Is that not exactly what you're condemning JJJ for?

A fair question. Two things though:

1) I haven't re-assessed you really at all since that last rainbow. You aren't the only one though... I'd say I'm not sure I feel any differently about LoRab or a few others since then either. All of my reads aren't as informed as I'd like them to be because I haven't had the time yet to dig into folks' ISOs. I'd like to still do that, but I'm not sure I'll have time before I leave on Thursday for Cincinnati. I didn't see anything in my catchup from you that compelled me to move you immediately, but I haven't really given it appropriate attention either.

2) I'm not condemning JJJ; I still am reading him weak town (though he was previously moderate town). It's just something that seems uncharacteristic of town!JJJ and I'm not sure what to make of it beyond finding it slightly suspicious at face value.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:if poll trickery kills me anyway, and I don't have the opportunity, somebody please check voting patterns of my mafia 3 shortlist, as posted earlier

I have been civ reading scotty most of the game but he could just be a good liar... he's one of the 3 people who appear multiple times in my lead lists

Well I feel better about Lorab right now. So I would lean either Scotty or Dom as the potential mafia person on your list.

How can you all treat a sad and depressed marmot so poorly?

timmer wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:MM moved his vote from JJJ to BWT of all people, when he could have moved it to me to force a tie. Does this have anything to do with him saying he wanted to be lynched earlier? Does he have a protect or similar power?

I'm assuming he will move it at the last second. MM doesn't just throw in the towel.

you were right

well, waiting to see if I'm dead

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spoiler: show

MovingPictures07 wrote:MP's End of Day 3 Rainbow - GY!BE Rainbow #9

Strong Town:
timmer

Moderate Town:
Epignosis
Sloonei
Boomslang

Weak Town:
JaggedJimmyJay
triceratopzeuhl
birdwithteeth11
nijuukyugou
sig

Weak Mafia:
LoRab

Moderate Mafia:
Dom
Metalmarsh89

Strong Mafia:
Scotty

This should say Day 4. Holy shit, it's Day 4.

Oops, I forgot BWT. Sorry dude. I'll add him in the weak town.

Didn't you say I was a potential teammate of JJJ's early? What made you move me back to weak town?

I have never mafia read you or JJJ all game really, except maybe the very very beginning of the game when I wasn't sure what to make of JJJ, but even then he was more null than anything.

You're my tinfoil teammates -- tinfoil specifically because you're the two folks in the game I'm town reading that I would currently be least surprised about flipping mafia, and specifically, together.

I have to go spend time on Lost Again now... haven't been in that game at all either. I'll be back to see the flip, and then after that TBD.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:MM moved his vote from JJJ to BWT of all people, when he could have moved it to me to force a tie. Does this have anything to do with him saying he wanted to be lynched earlier? Does he have a protect or similar power?

The toothy bird is evil. His life should be taken before that of any marmot (especially the innocent Rosa). He's in league with the evil JagBear!

I'm in league with JJJ to the extent that we're both civs!

watch for mafia 3, dom and vompatti's teammate, to be among the people voting me. I read all the marmot voters as good even if I also thought marmot was good

timmer wrote:And has Sloonei been around? They are the only vote missing.

Actually, that reminds me. Can we pretty much confirm that Vomps is bad now? Because unless I'm mistaken, everyone posted during this phase.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:How can you all treat a sad and depressed marmot so poorly?

Maybe it will be okay, you've got a 50/50 chance

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Dom wrote: Maybe I don't respond to you because your replies to me are rather brash and rude.

you started it days ago

And now for some more bullshit.

Apparently I've ben at this for "days".

I will link to the only two times we have interacted this game beyond Day 4.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 11#p315711
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p314414

Substantiate this claim or face destruction.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Fine, here's your answers

Dom wrote: Patterns of what?

I've explained pretty thoroughly, I don't see at all what you dont get. You appear in multiple leads from known civvies, more often than any other player. Hence why I'm looking at your posts to guess your teammate.

Dom wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Even if you lynch me today, remaining civvies can still easily win if they listen to me. I'm sort of resigned to the fact that I die every game I ever play (it's why all my victories are as mafia or indy, being alive isn't typically a win condition for them) and even if you don't lynch me, Dom or JJJ will nightkill me before the game is over.

This is setting me up both ways, which makes me feel worse about you. It shows that you don't care if I am civ at all.

This makes no sense and I don't understand how you extracted that conclusion from my post.

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So... shouldn't you be lobbying for my lynch, by that logic??? Not Jays?

It makes sense to me. Let me explain further:
By saying that I will nightkill you, you are setting me up for a lynch whether you live or die. If you live, you're around to push my lynch. If you die, then you've set me up for a lynch. You don't seem to care about the consequences of your actions.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spoiler: show

MovingPictures07 wrote:MP's End of Day 3 Rainbow - GY!BE Rainbow #9

Strong Town:
timmer

Moderate Town:
Epignosis
Sloonei
Boomslang

Weak Town:
JaggedJimmyJay
triceratopzeuhl
birdwithteeth11
nijuukyugou
sig

Weak Mafia:
LoRab

Moderate Mafia:
Dom
Metalmarsh89

Strong Mafia:
Scotty

This should say Day 4. Holy shit, it's Day 4.

Oops, I forgot BWT. Sorry dude. I'll add him in the weak town.

Didn't you say I was a potential teammate of JJJ's early? What made you move me back to weak town?

I have never mafia read you or JJJ all game really, except maybe the very very beginning of the game when I wasn't sure what to make of JJJ, but even then he was more null than anything.

You're my tinfoil teammates -- tinfoil specifically because you're the two folks in the game I'm town reading that I would currently be least surprised about flipping mafia, and specifically, together.

Okay fair enough then.

hey

Ricochet wrote:

Spoiler: show

Is this supposed to ahve something in it?

So...a tie means no lynch then?

Also, bye Sloonei ( ) and welcome Quin ( )!

Linki: Not unless the host equates a tie with no lynch.

rule 4 makes me think something is afoot here

Well that is thoroughly unproductive.

The rules state that a tie results in a coin flip, which suggests to me there was an immunity or save or some shit in play here.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:So...a tie means no lynch then?

That's not usually how it works. Rule 4 "surrender to the faith of the coin" should mean it was random. I think coin toss and/or Piss Crowns power made the lynch land on marmot and he has some kind of protection, which is why he was joking about wanting to be lynched earlier.

Or the same thing with me, you never know.

Any other theories?

hi quin

Welcome Quin, hope you like heavy reading

I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

I'm sick right now and haven't been keeping up with the thread, so I'm not in the best state to look through 60 pages of content and actually get anything out of it. So, if there's anything I should or need to know then let me know, otherwise I'm just going to start from here. But by all means if you want to direct me to anything specific in previous posts then kick my butt and I'll do it.

Hi Quin.

I'll be going to see a movie shortly.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:So...a tie means no lynch then?

That's not usually how it works. Rule 4 "surrender to the faith of the coin" should mean it was random. I think coin toss and/or Piss Crowns power made the lynch land on marmot and he has some kind of protection, which is why he was joking about wanting to be lynched earlier.

Or the same thing with me, you never know.

Any other theories?

Nah. Looking at Rule 4, I definitely think something else is afoot here. The question is if it is with you or Marmot.

I'm leaning Marmot, because his style of play this game would certainly indicate some kind of immunity.

Linki: No u

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

Off topic: Why are the quotes in spoilers f'd up now?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

same tbh

BWT what exactly do you think "faith of the coin" means?

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

Off topic: Why are the quotes in spoilers f'd up now?

You gotta put something inside the quotes I think.

I'm going to spend this night doing some heavy revision and rereading.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

same tbh

BWT what exactly do you think "faith of the coin" means?

I think it meant the host flipped a coin to determine the lynch. And whoever's side the coin landed on has some tomfoolery or shenanigans going on that kept them alive.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

Off topic: Why are the quotes in spoilers f'd up now?

You gotta put something inside the quotes I think.

Yeah. It only works if you put the text inside the quotes I believe.

Well, that's not an illuminating result.

Welcome, Quin! I guess that means Sloonei asked to be replaced. Good luck subbing in.

Votes: -1 (stupid image won't load)

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

Off topic: Why are the quotes in spoilers f'd up now?

You gotta put something inside the quotes I think.

Yeah. It only works if you put the text inside the quotes I believe.

D'oh. Silly me. I forgot to put a victim, of course.





Just kidding.

Quin wrote:I'm sick right now and haven't been keeping up with the thread, so I'm not in the best state to look through 60 pages of content and actually get anything out of it. So, if there's anything I should or need to know then let me know, otherwise I'm just going to start from here. But by all means if you want to direct me to anything specific in previous posts then kick my butt and I'll do it.

here's my fast and dirty summary which I will leave my unproven theories from (even though they are true )

1. Vompatti was Moya, the killer from the mafia team, and was killed night 1 probably from the civvie role Motherfucker=Redeemer. It's unclear whether the M=R kill overrid his kill, or if vomps never submitted one

2. civvie role Rockets Fall On Rocket Falls blocked night powers night 2

3. both the "serial killer" (indy role) and 2nd mafia member, who has vompatti's kill power now that vompatti is dead, targetted the same person (Golden) night 3. I think most of us agree he was definitely civilian

4. We unfortunately haven't managed to lynch a baddie yet.

@everybody Are any of these points under dispute?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

same tbh

BWT what exactly do you think "faith of the coin" means?

I think it meant the host flipped a coin to determine the lynch. And whoever's side the coin landed on has some tomfoolery or shenanigans going on that kept them alive.

But that's exactly what I said and you disagreed with it

Trice, what exactly did I start days ago?

I said that given what Rule 4 said, that there was something else going on we aren't publicly aware of. I reiterated it with adding in that it happened after a coin was flipped. How did I disagree with you, trice?

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Quin wrote:I'm sick right now and haven't been keeping up with the thread, so I'm not in the best state to look through 60 pages of content and actually get anything out of it. So, if there's anything I should or need to know then let me know, otherwise I'm just going to start from here. But by all means if you want to direct me to anything specific in previous posts then kick my butt and I'll do it.

here's my fast and dirty summary which I will leave my unproven theories from (even though they are true )

1. Vompatti was Moya, the killer from the mafia team, and was killed night 1 probably from the civvie role Motherfucker=Redeemer. It's unclear whether the M=R kill overrid his kill, or if vomps never submitted one

2. civvie role Rockets Fall On Rocket Falls blocked night powers night 2

3. both the "serial killer" (indy role) and 2nd mafia member, who has vompatti's kill power now that vompatti is dead, targetted the same person (Golden) night 3. I think most of us agree he was definitely civilian

4. We unfortunately haven't managed to lynch a baddie yet.

@everybody Are any of these points under dispute?

Sounds about right to me.

Extra emphasis on #4; we've thoroughly sucked on that one.

The only thing I did to save myself was switch my vote at the last second.

I've gotta run. I've got some work to do. Be back later.

I can speak now. Too bad I'm a hundred pages behind.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Quin wrote:I'm sick right now and haven't been keeping up with the thread, so I'm not in the best state to look through 60 pages of content and actually get anything out of it. So, if there's anything I should or need to know then let me know, otherwise I'm just going to start from here. But by all means if you want to direct me to anything specific in previous posts then kick my butt and I'll do it.

here's my fast and dirty summary which I will leave my unproven theories from (even though they are true )

1. Vompatti was Moya, the killer from the mafia team, and was killed night 1 probably from the civvie role Motherfucker=Redeemer. It's unclear whether the M=R kill overrid his kill, or if vomps never submitted one

2. civvie role Rockets Fall On Rocket Falls blocked night powers night 2

3. both the "serial killer" (indy role) and 2nd mafia member, who has vompatti's kill power now that vompatti is dead, targetted the same person (Golden) night 3. I think most of us agree he was definitely civilian

4. We unfortunately haven't managed to lynch a baddie yet.

@everybody Are any of these points under dispute?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm currently still alive, and y'all are the worst.

same tbh

BWT what exactly do you think "faith of the coin" means?

I think it meant the host flipped a coin to determine the lynch. And whoever's side the coin landed on has some tomfoolery or shenanigans going on that kept them alive.

But that's exactly what I said and you disagreed with it

Thanks.

The rules/gameplay part of the OP doesn't mention the implications of declaring a location. How does that work?

Oh Shit.

I Can Speak Now. Too Bad I'm a Hundred Pages Behind.

What are historical odds of civvies VS mafia having a lynch protect power?

Dom wrote:Trice, what exactly did I start days ago?

I mean, you even linked it in your own reply to me?

Dom wrote: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p314414

Dom wrote: OK
But that isn't his current posting. Why are you still deeming him useless?

This is 100% as curt/rude as anything I've said to you (and also you immediately ignored my correction to this patently wrong post in favour of looking for more GOTCHA! moments which was the reason I originally started suspecting you)

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I said that given what Rule 4 said, that there was something else going on we aren't publicly aware of. I reiterated it with adding in that it happened after a coin was flipped. How did I disagree with you, trice?

I thought the combination of the word "Nah" and saying there was "also" something afoot meant you were disagreeing with me, my bad, I realize now the Nah was in response to "are there any other theories"

Quin wrote: Thanks.

The rules/gameplay part of the OP doesn't mention the implications of declaring a location. How does that work?

I haven't noticed any difference day to day, I can only assume some players have info on certain locations giving them bonuses. I haven't even seen anybody trying to encourage others to vote one way or another so who knows.