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Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:31 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:29 pm Sprityo's reactions to my wall post in Retrocausality were much tamer and more measured than here. That's worth noting.
That was my point when he reacted to you

He just like ripped into your rainbow list and shit

Seemed genuinely like a pissed off townie to me in the moment when I read that stuff more than not

He could be mad as scum but I don’t know now I’m starting to doubt lynching him again

He just *feels* sincere to me

I also remember how he told me he needed positive reinforcement and that just felt real

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:30 pm Pfffffft why should I vote for sprityo tho.
Do you truly care about any answer anyone is going to give you to this or any other question?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
by Tangrowth
I still think I want to lynch Alien the most

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
by DharmaHelper
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:31 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:30 pm Pfffffft why should I vote for sprityo tho.
Do you truly care about any answer anyone is going to give you to this or any other question?
Yes.

For example this answer tells me maybe I shouldn't vote for Sprityo.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
by MacDougall
CFD DharmaHelper?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
by Tangrowth
I also think I never should have given DH a town read because he really needs some fire up his ass

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:33 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm CFD DharmaHelper?
LOL MINDMELD

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:33 pm
by DharmaHelper
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I also think I never should have given DH a town read because he really needs some fire up his ass
:shrug:

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:31 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:30 pm Pfffffft why should I vote for sprityo tho.
Do you truly care about any answer anyone is going to give you to this or any other question?
Yes.

For example this answer tells me maybe I shouldn't vote for Sprityo.
Why does it tell you that?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:34 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
We're active enough right now for live GTH reads, and it'd leave enough space to situate for EOD.

Say aye if you're in. Don't say aye if you're scum.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:34 pm
by Tangrowth
Another thought I’ve had

Especially if Alien is town but regardless

I love Russ this game BUT

I do wonder if he’s been engaging in TMI

with me and Mac

And maybe he is using the suspicion of Alien as an excuse to avoid hunting other serious candidates idk

I still think he looks really town but this has crossed my mind admittedly

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:34 pm
by DharmaHelper
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:33 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:31 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:30 pm Pfffffft why should I vote for sprityo tho.
Do you truly care about any answer anyone is going to give you to this or any other question?
Yes.

For example this answer tells me maybe I shouldn't vote for Sprityo.
Why does it tell you that?
Cuz it doesn't answer my fuckin' question boss.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:34 pm We're active enough right now for live GTH reads, and it'd leave enough space to situate for EOD.

Say aye if you're in. Don't say aye if you're scum.
YES GTH READS ITS BEEN TOO LONG

AYE

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I still think I want to lynch Alien the most
Alien is a new voice on this site. When new players who are confident come here they always tend to get suspected for being themselves. On top of that he has offered a lot of content. I don't see how Alien is the best day 1 lynch.

Yet another about face but I feel that now, this close to ED, objectively the best person to lynch is Marmot. There is no overwhelming consensus person and Marmot has given us no ability to adequately read him. Plus we'd be doing him a favour. Marmot surviving day after day with no content is one of the worst case scenarios we would find ourselves in and it happens in so many games I've seen marmot play.

DharmaHelper would be the next best candidate imo.

The only reason my vote is on neither is because there has hardly ever been any genuine push to lynch either.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by Marmot
town
town
town
scum

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by MacDougall
I would love GTH. Someone explain it to the thread.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by abyssum
what do you mean by GTH reads. like. just stating your opinions on random players?

i think abyssum is town

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by Tangrowth
Or

Could Alien and Russ both be scum and distancing?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:34 pm Another thought I’ve had

Especially if Alien is town but regardless

I love Russ this game BUT

I do wonder if he’s been engaging in TMI

with me and Mac

And maybe he is using the suspicion of Alien as an excuse to avoid hunting other serious candidates idk

I still think he looks really town but this has crossed my mind admittedly
I just had a similar thought as I considered an alien lynch -- what next if he flips civilian? The most obvious name to look into is also the one who looks as golden as anyone with <40 posts has ever looked (Russtifinko). It'd feel like a dead end unless a real Russ case can be derived. There may be other insight that would be derived from mining that I don't recall right now.

If he flips civilian.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:37 pm
by Marmot
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I still think I want to lynch Alien the most
Alien is a new voice on this site. When new players who are confident come here they always tend to get suspected for being themselves. On top of that he has offered a lot of content. I don't see how Alien is the best day 1 lynch.

Yet another about face but I feel that now, this close to ED, objectively the best person to lynch is Marmot. There is no overwhelming consensus person and Marmot has given us no ability to adequately read him. Plus we'd be doing him a favour. Marmot surviving day after day with no content is one of the worst case scenarios we would find ourselves in and it happens in so many games I've seen marmot play.

DharmaHelper would be the next best candidate imo.

The only reason my vote is on neither is because there has hardly ever been any genuine push to lynch either.
How often do I play games where I don't give you content?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:37 pm
by Marmot
Mac and Robotnerd are both scum. Lynch them both now, then the contestants.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:37 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I still think I want to lynch Alien the most
Alien is a new voice on this site. When new players who are confident come here they always tend to get suspected for being themselves. On top of that he has offered a lot of content. I don't see how Alien is the best day 1 lynch.

Yet another about face but I feel that now, this close to ED, objectively the best person to lynch is Marmot. There is no overwhelming consensus person and Marmot has given us no ability to adequately read him. Plus we'd be doing him a favour. Marmot surviving day after day with no content is one of the worst case scenarios we would find ourselves in and it happens in so many games I've seen marmot play.

DharmaHelper would be the next best candidate imo.

The only reason my vote is on neither is because there has hardly ever been any genuine push to lynch either.
Yeah I mean I don’t even disagree

I just feel like I found some meaningful stuff there

I would feel really fucking awful it was an ML

It’s basically do you want the spicy lynch or the bland lynch

Spicy - Alien

Bland - DH, TH, Marmot

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
What are live GTH reads?

I will throw out a few player names at a time. Everyone will QUOTE that post and indicate whether the players included are GOOD or BAD (town or scum, civ or mafia, whatever). NO NEUTRAL OR NULL OR IDK IS ALLOWED.

A hard stance must be taken, even if you're not sure, as though a gun is being pointed at your head and you are being forced to make a choice.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:38 pm
by Tangrowth
I also think that’s somewhat a misrepresentation though Mac

Like

I had plenty of reasons Alien is scum other than he’s voicing his opinion

So did Russ and Jay for the matter

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:39 pm
by abyssum
oooooh GTH sounds fun

i wanna play

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:39 pm
by MacDougall
Marmot wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I still think I want to lynch Alien the most
Alien is a new voice on this site. When new players who are confident come here they always tend to get suspected for being themselves. On top of that he has offered a lot of content. I don't see how Alien is the best day 1 lynch.

Yet another about face but I feel that now, this close to ED, objectively the best person to lynch is Marmot. There is no overwhelming consensus person and Marmot has given us no ability to adequately read him. Plus we'd be doing him a favour. Marmot surviving day after day with no content is one of the worst case scenarios we would find ourselves in and it happens in so many games I've seen marmot play.

DharmaHelper would be the next best candidate imo.

The only reason my vote is on neither is because there has hardly ever been any genuine push to lynch either.
How often do I play games where I don't give you content?
Oh look he's reading the thread.

Sorry Marmot the question is more how often do you play games where you don't give content until well into the game when it's much harder to convince the thread to lynch the guy who hardly posted for the first several days and the answer is 4/5 games Marmot plays.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:39 pm
by sprityo
I need to ask this because it’s been scratching st the back of my head since jay asked me.

If mac, on the chance isn’t scum, then who is the next option?

I’ve see lots of stuff about alien, DH, colin, and Robot, but haven’t dived into them personally.

Colin is, like MP said, good at talking but I want to say I’ve looked at him the least thus far. DH is slowly and increasingly here. More so interested in what he could bring to the table. I’m oretty sure he’s the one the figured out I was cecil in GOC. Smart guy

Robot has been absent, aside from sitting a vote on me

Alien has continues to draw discussion over things that suggest he’s scum, yet I don’t see the big “oh he’s definitely scum” thing I’ve seen between mac and myself. Or jay to DharmaHelper earlier

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
If you're here in the thread right now, you are participating in the live GTH exercise. It isn't optional. I will begin shortly. Be sure to QUOTE the post containing the names. That is important.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:32 pm I still think I want to lynch Alien the most
Alien is a new voice on this site. When new players who are confident come here they always tend to get suspected for being themselves. On top of that he has offered a lot of content. I don't see how Alien is the best day 1 lynch.

Yet another about face but I feel that now, this close to ED, objectively the best person to lynch is Marmot. There is no overwhelming consensus person and Marmot has given us no ability to adequately read him. Plus we'd be doing him a favour. Marmot surviving day after day with no content is one of the worst case scenarios we would find ourselves in and it happens in so many games I've seen marmot play.

DharmaHelper would be the next best candidate imo.

The only reason my vote is on neither is because there has hardly ever been any genuine push to lynch either.
Yeah I mean I don’t even disagree

I just feel like I found some meaningful stuff there

I would feel really fucking awful it was an ML

It’s basically do you want the spicy lynch or the bland lynch

Spicy - Alien

Bland - DH, TH, Marmot
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] my dude. Swords down. Does this post ping the shit out of you? In the bolded.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm
by Tangrowth
Also yeah I mean Marmot can be inactive relatively but when he wants to be he is fucking clutch as fuck and I will hear no arguments to the contrary

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:41 pm
by abyssum
i feel like tsaiah and i are going to steal some of this site's meta a little bit

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by Tangrowth
sprityo wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:39 pm I need to ask this because it’s been scratching st the back of my head since jay asked me.

If mac, on the chance isn’t scum, then who is the next option?

I’ve see lots of stuff about alien, DH, colin, and Robot, but haven’t dived into them personally.

Colin is, like MP said, good at talking but I want to say I’ve looked at him the least thus far. DH is slowly and increasingly here. More so interested in what he could bring to the table. I’m oretty sure he’s the one the figured out I was cecil in GOC. Smart guy

Robot has been absent, aside from sitting a vote on me

Alien has continues to draw discussion over things that suggest he’s scum, yet I don’t see the big “oh he’s definitely scum” thing I’ve seen between mac and myself. Or jay to DharmaHelper earlier
Wait I said Colin is good at what now Lol

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:38 pm I also think that’s somewhat a misrepresentation though Mac

Like

I had plenty of reasons Alien is scum other than he’s voicing his opinion

So did Russ and Jay for the matter
So it's a misrepresentation but you don't disagree?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm If you're here in the thread right now, you are participating in the live GTH exercise. It isn't optional. I will begin shortly. Be sure to QUOTE the post containing the names. That is important.
FUCK YES HYPE

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by DharmaHelper
Nobody said why I should vote Sprityo so I won't be.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
THE EXERCISE BEGINS NOW.

ABYSSUM
MACDOUGALL

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by Tangrowth
Why the fuck would that ping you Mac

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm THE EXERCISE BEGINS NOW.

ABYSSUM
MACDOUGALL
TOWN
TOWN

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm THE EXERCISE BEGINS NOW.

ABYSSUM
MACDOUGALL
good
good

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm Also yeah I mean Marmot can be inactive relatively but when he wants to be he is fucking clutch as fuck and I will hear no arguments to the contrary
Yes I have seen more games in which marmot was town and somehow survived to the end than scum but I mean people are generally town and Marmot generally does this so it just means that him being quiet is not alignment indicative.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by MacDougall
Jay why did you put me in the first group?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by abyssum
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm THE EXERCISE BEGINS NOW.

ABYSSUM
MACDOUGALL
town, town

:3

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:38 pm I also think that’s somewhat a misrepresentation though Mac

Like

I had plenty of reasons Alien is scum other than he’s voicing his opinion

So did Russ and Jay for the matter
So it's a misrepresentation but you don't disagree?
I mean okay I’m on phone so I’m not explaining this well sorry

I mean I see where you’re coming from yes

But I also think that we have had some solid reason to suspect Alien and you didn’t really talk about that there

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by sprityo
abyssum wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:41 pm i feel like tsaiah and i are going to steal some of this site's meta a little bit
please indulge yourself in our other fine selections of Jobs and Burglaries, they offer the biggest variety in gameplay and fun times IMO

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:43 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:40 pm Also yeah I mean Marmot can be inactive relatively but when he wants to be he is fucking clutch as fuck and I will hear no arguments to the contrary
Yes I have seen more games in which marmot was town and somehow survived to the end than scum but I mean people are generally town and Marmot generally does this so it just means that him being quiet is not alignment indicative.
Oh yeah well that’s true

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm Why the fuck would that ping you Mac
Why is it that everytime I excercise some simple discretion and speculate on your alignment you respond with overreactive swearing?

It pings me because you straight up said that the lynch decision was between spicy Alien (your choice) and three players that are bland and my choices. It was a weird choice. You didn't even include sprityo on the list of three.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
by Tangrowth
abyssum wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:41 pm i feel like tsaiah and i are going to steal some of this site's meta a little bit
YESSSS

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Let's go people. There are more than two of you here.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
by MacDougall
abyssum and mac = town and me

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:45 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm Why the fuck would that ping you Mac
Why is it that everytime I excercise some simple discretion and speculate on your alignment you respond with overreactive swearing?

It pings me because you straight up said that the lynch decision was between spicy Alien (your choice) and three players that are bland and my choices. It was a weird choice. You didn't even include sprityo on the list of three.
Why would I include sprityo I don’t think I want to lynch him