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Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:56 pm**

Sorry yeah, stupid K and C sounds

Kyle lol

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:16 pm**

Three is a Magic Number

As a young lad, the director, speedchuck, always saw his life in three acts: Birth, Life, and Fame.

The first two went as planned, but when the executive producer said they had to cut off his funding, he didn't think she meant his head.

There was no encore.

speedchuck has been lynched.

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It is now Night 5. You have until 9pm EST to submit your PMs.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:18 pm**

Who?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:54 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

speedchuck
11
61%

Voters: S~V~S, Kylemii, sig, Long Con, Elohcin, colonialbob, juliets, novaselinenever, nutella, ColinIsCool, nijuukyugou

sprityo
0
No votes

Voters: None

Kylemii
2
11%

Voters: sprityo, speedchuck

Roger Daltrey (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
5
28%

Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Quin, Turnip Head, MacDougall, Epignosis

Total votes: 18

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:54 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:45 pm epi complained

That never happens.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:57 pm**

rip speedchuck

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:02 am**

dearest maria... rez plz

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:09 am**

i think it would be good to review our PoE's tonight

i mean... that's always a pretty good thing to do, and we've already been doing it a lot but... you know.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am**

so are you going to kill enri? or no

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:37 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am so are you going to kill enri? or no

i think it makes the most sense to hold off til night 6 to kill him in case a nightkill proves him innocent and allows us to use the kill for something else but if the consensus is that i'm probably gonna die before i get to use it for anything else, i don't see any harm in killing eko tonight

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:38 am**

especially if my using the kill on anyone else at any point would risk reducing our remaining number of lynches

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:29 am**

Rip speedchuck, I'm sorry it had to be you instead of JJJ (but I'm thankful for whoever killed Jay).

I'll look at my POE a little while later after I'm fully awake and eat.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:19 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:37 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am so are you going to kill enri? or no
i think it makes the most sense to hold off til night 6 to kill him in case a nightkill proves him innocent and allows us to use the kill for something else but if the consensus is that i'm probably gonna die before i get to use it for anything else, i don't see any harm in killing eko tonight

Why me if we can try to get a baddie or #P with your kill. Makes no sense.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:28 am**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:19 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:37 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am so are you going to kill enri? or no
i think it makes the most sense to hold off til night 6 to kill him in case a nightkill proves him innocent and allows us to use the kill for something else but if the consensus is that i'm probably gonna die before i get to use it for anything else, i don't see any harm in killing eko tonight
Why me if we can try to get a baddie or #P with your kill. Makes no sense.

He said eko, not Elo. Eko is what we sometimes call Enrique (in the old days).

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:19 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:37 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am so are you going to kill enri? or no
i think it makes the most sense to hold off til night 6 to kill him in case a nightkill proves him innocent and allows us to use the kill for something else but if the consensus is that i'm probably gonna die before i get to use it for anything else, i don't see any harm in killing eko tonight
Why me if we can try to get a baddie or #P with your kill. Makes no sense.

that post had nothing to do with you, it's about eko (Enrique)

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 am**

That does actually bring up something, I know Eloh has been basically cleared but can anybody remind me why? Unfortunately I've been a little less active between having my vote controlled and being crazy busy at work.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:33 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:28 am He said eko, not Elo. Eko is what we sometimes call Enrique (in the old days).

Why tho

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:42 am**

I’m guessing it’s a Lost reference.

Eloh claimed to be the poll manipulator, which I think is viewed as more likely to be town than mafia.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:59 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:33 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:28 am He said eko, not Elo. Eko is what we sometimes call Enrique (in the old days).
Why tho

Yes Colin is right, it's a Lost reference. I seem to vaguely recall he used it as a screen name maybe at Lostpedia or on IRC, can't remember exactly.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:05 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:42 am I’m guessing it’s a Lost reference.

Eloh claimed to be the poll manipulator, which I think is viewed as more likely to be town than mafia.

Is it? I haven't run into this role (except in the version where you remove someone from the poll) so I'm trying to figure it out. In mafia hands you could put up 3 or 4 civs and guarantee a civ lynch. In civ hands, like Elo is claiming, you can narrow it down to the top suspects and not give the mafia room to do a lot of off voting. I'm not saying I think Elo is bad, I'm just trying to understand why this role is more civvie. One thing in Elo's favor in my opinion is she said before the night, when the lynch was between she and Luna, she had a cool role that she had planned on using that night. She lived and she did.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:11 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:33 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:28 am He said eko, not Elo. Eko is what we sometimes call Enrique (in the old days).
Why tho

That was his screen name back in the day, on Lostpedia, where the original core of this community comes from, Mr Eko was a character on LOST.

And Elohs role has more civ utility than baddie utility imo, especially as she used it, to narrow it down to those many came to a consensus on.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:45 pm**

Yeah imo that ability in mafia hands would be a huge balance error. Absolutely a civ.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:53 pm**

Guaranteeing a civ lynch would be pretty severe. It’s not impossible but sounds unlikely.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:54 pm**

Ok thanks S~V~S, Nutella, ColinIsCool I understand much better now why it has to be a civ role.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm**

Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:14 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:11 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:33 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:28 am He said eko, not Elo. Eko is what we sometimes call Enrique (in the old days).
Why tho
That was his screen name back in the day, on Lostpedia, where the original core of this community comes from, Mr Eko was a character on LOST.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:33 pm**

lol throwback. I never got used to the "new" look of the forum even though it changed in like, what, 2010? also wow I haven't thought about BCEW in a long time I wonder what she's up to

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:06 pm**

I mean the counterargument is that the role specifies they have to include at least one mafia member.

But yeah I'm good calling it town and moving on.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:25 pm**

Oh the Rico Suave avatar, and the hed <3

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay

if you don't like it then tell me why you don't like it. it's not very constructive feedback.

unless you have an extremely pressing reason for why eko needs to die tonight specifically, I'm not doing that. if the mafia kills tonight then we'll know for certain whether or not eko is mafia without using any resources. if they don't kill at all then I'll kill eko the next night and then we can focus on taking out the assassin or w/e, but killing eko right now just because I can is redundant, and not an effective use of town resources.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:41 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:14 pm

oh jesus my 2011 avatar

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm**

that's not to say i won't kill someone tonight if everyone can agree on someone but I'm not killing eko when we can gain the same information about him by just waiting 5 hours.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:18 pm**

Kill sig

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:27 pm**

Sig bears more inspection. I had bad feelings about him a little while ago.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:54 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay
if you don't like it then tell me why you don't like it. it's not very constructive feedback.

unless you have an extremely pressing reason for why eko needs to die tonight specifically, I'm not doing that. if the mafia kills tonight then we'll know for certain whether or not eko is mafia without using any resources. if they don't kill at all then I'll kill eko the next night and then we can focus on taking out the assassin or w/e, but killing eko right now just because I can is redundant, and not an effective use of town resources.

kyle, if the mafia kills tonight how do we know for sure it's eko? I must have missed something.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:05 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay
if you don't like it then tell me why you don't like it. it's not very constructive feedback.

unless you have an extremely pressing reason for why eko needs to die tonight specifically, I'm not doing that. if the mafia kills tonight then we'll know for certain whether or not eko is mafia without using any resources. if they don't kill at all then I'll kill eko the next night and then we can focus on taking out the assassin or w/e, but killing eko right now just because I can is redundant, and not an effective use of town resources.
kyle, if the mafia kills tonight how do we know for sure it's eko? I must have missed something.

Most people are thinking if it's one team, there are 5 baddies on it. Four baddies are dead.

It isn't a *sure* thing, we could be wrong, there could be two teams, there could be a team of six, and so forth, but one team of five seems a good estimate. But yeah, no one knows for sure.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:06 pm**

edit, and if the Mafia kills tonight with only one person presumably left, that one person is unlikely to be Rico as he is AWOL.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:09 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay
if you don't like it then tell me why you don't like it. it's not very constructive feedback.

unless you have an extremely pressing reason for why eko needs to die tonight specifically, I'm not doing that. if the mafia kills tonight then we'll know for certain whether or not eko is mafia without using any resources. if they don't kill at all then I'll kill eko the next night and then we can focus on taking out the assassin or w/e, but killing eko right now just because I can is redundant, and not an effective use of town resources.
kyle, if the mafia kills tonight how do we know for sure it's eko? I must have missed something.
Most people are thinking if it's one team, there are 5 baddies on it. Four baddies are dead.

It isn't a *sure* thing, we could be wrong, there could be two teams, there could be a team of six, and so forth, but one team of five seems a good estimate. But yeah, no one knows for sure.

Oh ok I see, he's assuming if there are 5 eko is the fifth, which we would also be assuming if he killed eko tonight. So why not wait instead of potentially wasting a kill.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:12 pm**

yes! exactly

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:32 pm**

I just checked, and he isn't completely absent.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:46 pm**

how absent is he? on a scale from 1-10

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:50 pm**

He's had 11 posts, the last was a self vote on Day one. Three of four of them were literally "vote for me".

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:50 pm**

Not absent enough to not have been able to submit a kill.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:50 pm**

Otherwise pretty absent

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:56 pm**

he was online the other night a couple hours before we lynched speedchuck....

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:56 pm**

He was online recently to react to the endgame of Asunder but I don't know that he checked in on this game at all. Maybe he just forgot lol

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:57 pm**

i guess the big question is: would killing anyone other than epignosis, at any point reduce the number of lynches we can afford to mess up?

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:59 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:02 pm**

Jay's comment about DH's frustration with Enrique as a no-show scum buddy might have been him projecting his own irritations

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:04 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:02 pm Jay's comment about DH's frustration with Enrique as a no-show scum buddy might have been him projecting his own irritations

I don't think this is particularly compelling. Just as likely, if not more so, that he pointed to an easy mislynch target.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:04 pm**

I'm not sure what is your concern with the number of lynches you keep coming back to. We're in a decent position, and we're using this bullet as a lynch since we're all pitching in, so a mis-fire would have probably been mislynch anyway.

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