Re: AtLA D2
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:19 pm
I'm spewed town by Mac erry'one, check his ISO
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Weren't you floating the idea that this was a mechanical mixup, did you decide that was a dead end?Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:38 pmSorry, I'm not trying to be useful for you, I'm trying to be useful for townNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:35 pmAh, sad I was hoping you'd actually go for a defense that would be useful to me.Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:33 pmWhen I flip town you should all vote for axeNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:31 pmIf you could, try to include some spew in your red check defense, something we can use for tomorrow once I'm proven real.Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:28 pmYeah because it's not realNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:27 pmI should make a case to defend my res check?Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:27 pm
You really making arguments based on the online thing? I checked the nks a few hours ago, I wasn't reading the thread. I'm not making a play? I just checked to see what was up and saw I had a wagon. If you're gonna push me with a fake red check then you should make a case on something that's actually AI![]()
Hard cheese, buddyhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:27 pmdo I get any say in that? because like we could maybe not do that and I'd appreciate it.
Maybe a little, cuz I don't super understand how outing himself as 1shot vig is helpful for town but maybe I'm just not seeing something. If you're town, guillo, you do you, I'm just worried and probably a little paranoid that scum will use the soup kill on you and if they do and you are town then we're down 6 and that's a little scary. I was shading and pushing you a little but I'm not trying to throw you under any buses here. Just confusion in my brain.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:18 pmKinda seems like you're trying to shade GuilloFelicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:42 pmLol no I just don't really get your play here if you actually did shoot Mac. But it's cool, keep shading me I guess![]()
I feel like this is a thinly veiled threat to chop me if I don't do work. I don't wanna do work, I just wanna shitpost and also call the dana check fake
Nah I don't really imagine there's much work you could do that would change my mind honestly, the dayvig interaction with Mac was just too sus. Cute gambit tho.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:34 pmI feel like this is a thinly veiled threat to chop me if I don't do work. I don't wanna do work, I just wanna shitpost and also call the dana check fake
alternately, and here me out, kza jokes about being vigged, I fake vig, wolfMac decides that's a great way to make me look bad.IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:35 pmNah I don't really imagine there's much work you could do that would change my mind honestly, the dayvig interaction with Mac was just too sus. Cute gambit tho.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:34 pmI feel like this is a thinly veiled threat to chop me if I don't do work. I don't wanna do work, I just wanna shitpost and also call the dana check fake
I considered it and found it unlikely, less likely than the coordination being deliberate. The fact that you were both on together at the same time especially and that Mac made an effort to pin you to it himself and indicate it was townie makes me especially inclined to just murder you here.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:38 pmalternately, and here me out, kza jokes about being vigged, I fake vig, wolfMac decides that's a great way to make me look bad.IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:35 pmNah I don't really imagine there's much work you could do that would change my mind honestly, the dayvig interaction with Mac was just too sus. Cute gambit tho.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:34 pmI feel like this is a thinly veiled threat to chop me if I don't do work. I don't wanna do work, I just wanna shitpost and also call the dana check fake
Why isn't that a line of thought you're willing to consider?
Mac isn't someone that dodges night actions like ever. So if mac and I are wolves together and pull that kind of scheme it hinges entirely on mac not dying because as soon as he does town would get a 2 for 1. Seems boneheaded to me.
...How much FM experience do you have?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Why should we waste a day just because there is a redcheck? I don't get you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
People like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
I mean, ??? I think you value time too highly without knowing how to use it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmWhy should we waste a day just because there is a redcheck? I don't get you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
I mean, champs is that event where they take a bunch of players, put them in set ups that can't be lost, and then pump their tires for being good at town right?IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
I'll admit, even if the check is real, I have reasons to want to keep talking that boil down to "me not being in the game on day 1 and wanting to understand where people are coming from."IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Reiterating.Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pm...How much FM experience do you have?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
You have the least reason to talk because you have so much content to scrutinize with a new look.Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pmI'll admit, even if the check is real, I have reasons to want to keep talking that boil down to "me not being in the game on day 1 and wanting to understand where people are coming from."IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Would also be nice to read into Mac spew, considering his flip wasn't there on day 1, and doing it sooner than later lets us do other things later.
To be honest, it's as productive as anyone else is being.Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:48 pm I have the most reason to want to talk to people, because I've been in the game for the shortest amount of time.
This conversation isn't very productive and I don't feel like arguing is going to lead either of us anywhere, but yeah.
Please answer my earlier question and I will move on.
Huh? I didn't check this year but last time I was in it scum won like 11-1 or somethingNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pmI mean, champs is that event where they take a bunch of players, put them in set ups that can't be lost, and then pump their tires for being good at town right?IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
I think you don't value time enough and I don't get how trying to shutdown discussion not involving Dana is helpful to town at all. Also, a piece of advice, you really should wait a while into the day to out your check, and attempt to goad reactions from people regarding who you checked before outing it. This has much more utility to town than outing it right away and calling for a quickhammer.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:44 pmI mean, ??? I think you value time too highly without knowing how to use it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmWhy should we waste a day just because there is a redcheck? I don't get you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Weird, we played this year's champs set up on my forum, it's hard to see scum having a good win rate given that random.org would win almost every game.IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:50 pmHuh? I didn't check this year but last time I was in it scum won like 11-1 or somethingNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pmI mean, champs is that event where they take a bunch of players, put them in set ups that can't be lost, and then pump their tires for being good at town right?IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Advice taken, now let's kill Dana.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:52 pmI think you don't value time enough and I don't get how trying to shutdown discussion not involving Dana is helpful to town at all. Also, a piece of advice, you really should wait a while into the day to out your check, and attempt to goad reactions from people regarding who you checked before outing it. This has much more utility to town than outing it right away and calling for a quickhammer.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:44 pmI mean, ??? I think you value time too highly without knowing how to use it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmWhy should we waste a day just because there is a redcheck? I don't get you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Weird kill on ender I think.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:00 pm In the night! @EnderWiggin has died. They flip town:
In addition! @MacDougall has been burnt to a crisp and died. He was mafia!Monk Gyatso
Mischievous Meditation
You’re very zin. You’re also a bit mischievous! Each night you can throw a pie at someone. Will this have an effect? Yes, of course! If your target targets anyone that night they will be blinded and have their target randomized. This does not apply to the factional night kill. Fun!
You are town, good luck!
In addition, @Vulgard has replaced butterscotchsundae.Azula
Lightning Hands
You can shoot lightning out of your hands. That’s cool! Twice per game you can target someone with that lightning, during day or night (but not consecutive phases—i.e., if you target someone D1 you cannot target someone N1). If you target a non-bender, they will die. If you target a bender, they will be poisoned and will die at the end of the following phase if not healed. While they are poisoned they are roleblocked, if applicable. You may do this twice per game.
Eod is July 3, 1pm edt. Hammer is at 12.
Spoiler: show
Yeah, Mac's a noob. Too obvious after the flipsGrogu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:57 pmWeird kill on ender I think.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:00 pm In the night! @EnderWiggin has died. They flip town:
In addition! @MacDougall has been burnt to a crisp and died. He was mafia!Monk Gyatso
Mischievous Meditation
You’re very zin. You’re also a bit mischievous! Each night you can throw a pie at someone. Will this have an effect? Yes, of course! If your target targets anyone that night they will be blinded and have their target randomized. This does not apply to the factional night kill. Fun!
You are town, good luck!
In addition, @Vulgard has replaced butterscotchsundae.Azula
Lightning Hands
You can shoot lightning out of your hands. That’s cool! Twice per game you can target someone with that lightning, during day or night (but not consecutive phases—i.e., if you target someone D1 you cannot target someone N1). If you target a non-bender, they will die. If you target a bender, they will be poisoned and will die at the end of the following phase if not healed. While they are poisoned they are roleblocked, if applicable. You may do this twice per game.
Eod is July 3, 1pm edt. Hammer is at 12.
Spoiler: show
Yolo shot on Mac, that’s good one. He was ok in my books. Nicely done
Nice. Please don’t say it, let’s keep it on the low okNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.
I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.
WatGrogu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:00 pmNice. Please don’t say it, let’s keep it on the low okNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:24 pm I have a red check on Dana.
I also know who Aang is, so let me know if you want me to out that information at any point.
Well mine was the 2019 setup.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:52 pmWeird, we played this year's champs set up on my forum, it's hard to see scum having a good win rate given that random.org would win almost every game.IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:50 pmHuh? I didn't check this year but last time I was in it scum won like 11-1 or somethingNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pmI mean, champs is that event where they take a bunch of players, put them in set ups that can't be lost, and then pump their tires for being good at town right?IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Felicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:33 pmMaybe a little, cuz I don't super understand how outing himself as 1shot vig is helpful for town but maybe I'm just not seeing something. If you're town, guillo, you do you, I'm just worried and probably a little paranoid that scum will use the soup kill on you and if they do and you are town then we're down 6 and that's a little scary. I was shading and pushing you a little but I'm not trying to throw you under any buses here. Just confusion in my brain.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:18 pmKinda seems like you're trying to shade GuilloFelicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:42 pmLol no I just don't really get your play here if you actually did shoot Mac. But it's cool, keep shading me I guess![]()
Anyway I've put my vote back on Dana. I'm worried about wrongness but I want to believe in this red check. I'll try to be around here and there throughout the evening if I can.
Things wolves say for $200Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:33 pmWhen I flip town you should all vote for axeNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:31 pmIf you could, try to include some spew in your red check defense, something we can use for tomorrow once I'm proven real.Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:28 pmYeah because it's not realNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:27 pmI should make a case to defend my res check?Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:27 pmYou really making arguments based on the online thing? I checked the nks a few hours ago, I wasn't reading the thread. I'm not making a play? I just checked to see what was up and saw I had a wagon. If you're gonna push me with a fake red check then you should make a case on something that's actually AINotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:22 pmMy goodness, you were online at the time the red check was made and already had votes on you.
Nice claim, but you really should change your account settings if you want to make a play like this![]()
I believe this makes creature town. It wasn’t a soft defense just busy work by a wolf.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:57 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:17 am I find it difficult to say I'd give a d1 pass on the pretense that not giving reads or being pro town is town indicative of creature nut going on that iso being solvy and giving straight answers is wolfy for him so yeh I guess we can solve him later.
You think I am scum? WeirdMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:00 pmI swear the 4-reads-per-tier isn't intentional.Town:
IBA
Naviya
NotanAxeHole
TonyStarkPrime
Guillotine
Lean Town:
Hollowkatt
DaughterofOmega
Seanzie
Falcon
Null:
lost monkey
Felicis
Long con
Creature
Scum:
Vulgard/Butter
Grogu
JackofHearts2005
Dana
this is where I'm at roughly, probably wrong on at least one of my scum-reads but I doubt 2 or more.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:09 amI hate this list because it's mostly low-end posters.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:05 am Seanzie
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
would kill from this list
That being said Seanzie/TSP are fine lynches for me too.
Creature feels like they'll spew more town/scum later down the line when they start participating.
Lol yes, except that wolves win qualifiers much more often than town doesNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pmI mean, champs is that event where they take a bunch of players, put them in set ups that can't be lost, and then pump their tires for being good at town right?IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pmPeople like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played
I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.
Exhibit A:Grogu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:28 pmYou think I am scum? WeirdMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:00 pmI swear the 4-reads-per-tier isn't intentional.Town:
IBA
Naviya
NotanAxeHole
TonyStarkPrime
Guillotine
Lean Town:
Hollowkatt
DaughterofOmega
Seanzie
Falcon
Null:
lost monkey
Felicis
Long con
Creature
Scum:
Vulgard/Butter
Grogu
JackofHearts2005
Dana
this is where I'm at roughly, probably wrong on at least one of my scum-reads but I doubt 2 or more.
And more reasons.
Look at it this way: if he's faking the claim, he's kinda putting a target on his back for the real VigFelicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:33 pmMaybe a little, cuz I don't super understand how outing himself as 1shot vig is helpful for town but maybe I'm just not seeing something. If you're town, guillo, you do you, I'm just worried and probably a little paranoid that scum will use the soup kill on you and if they do and you are town then we're down 6 and that's a little scary. I was shading and pushing you a little but I'm not trying to throw you under any buses here. Just confusion in my brain.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:18 pmKinda seems like you're trying to shade GuilloFelicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:42 pmLol no I just don't really get your play here if you actually did shoot Mac. But it's cool, keep shading me I guess![]()
Anyway I've put my vote back on Dana. I'm worried about wrongness but I want to believe in this red check. I'll try to be around here and there throughout the evening if I can.
Well I don’t agree. I know he is a great player, much better than I’ll ever be. Someone just got lucky on him or he had a bad game.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:59 pmYeah, Mac's a noob. Too obvious after the flipsGrogu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:57 pmWeird kill on ender I think.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:00 pm In the night! @EnderWiggin has died. They flip town:
In addition! @MacDougall has been burnt to a crisp and died. He was mafia!Monk Gyatso
Mischievous Meditation
You’re very zin. You’re also a bit mischievous! Each night you can throw a pie at someone. Will this have an effect? Yes, of course! If your target targets anyone that night they will be blinded and have their target randomized. This does not apply to the factional night kill. Fun!
You are town, good luck!
In addition, @Vulgard has replaced butterscotchsundae.Azula
Lightning Hands
You can shoot lightning out of your hands. That’s cool! Twice per game you can target someone with that lightning, during day or night (but not consecutive phases—i.e., if you target someone D1 you cannot target someone N1). If you target a non-bender, they will die. If you target a bender, they will be poisoned and will die at the end of the following phase if not healed. While they are poisoned they are roleblocked, if applicable. You may do this twice per game.
Eod is July 3, 1pm edt. Hammer is at 12.
Spoiler: show
Yolo shot on Mac, that’s good one. He was ok in my books. Nicely done
no, I don't think its a dead end I just didn't have time to delve into itIBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:32 pmWeren't you floating the idea that this was a mechanical mixup, did you decide that was a dead end?Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:38 pmSorry, I'm not trying to be useful for you, I'm trying to be useful for townNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:35 pmAh, sad I was hoping you'd actually go for a defense that would be useful to me.Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:33 pmWhen I flip town you should all vote for axeNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:31 pmIf you could, try to include some spew in your red check defense, something we can use for tomorrow once I'm proven real.