The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:41 am Everyone, remember that my newly adopted son transcend is billboard town

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 am ts is prob like

esooa
alison
wiml
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alexa
ilario
brad
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nanook
tony
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mac
ender

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means

I'm thread spewed town baby

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:54 pm Wiml still a good target. Was misrepresenting me and implying he had good read on me until I called bullshit

my scumteam is literally wiml/transcend who is my partner exactly?

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:20 am i always townread drunkposting though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:23 am I have decided the wolves are alison and esooa

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:28 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:26 am Yeah I think wiml is just town here and this has nothing to do with the fact that he trs me. I think he would tr me regardless of his alignment this game. From reading his wolf games wiml responds poorly to pressure and people may disagree with me on this but I think he’s handled being in the poe in a towny way this game. He isn’t overly bothered by it, and his primary focus has been on game solving/interacting as opposed to trying to push himself out of the poe.

Can I point you to all his defensive posts on me when I POE'd him or do I have to provide a map?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:47 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:43 am @Alison @Esooa

How much experience do you both have with wolf!mac? It seems like ur both the best readers of him and the two he fears the most in here, are you both confident he’s well within scumrange?

What are ur current stances on him rn, town/null/scum?

If I miscleared someone he’s probably it, and I have another reason to ask this but I’ll get to it later closer to eod

Yes, I am confident he's well within scumrange. Every tactic he has employed in this game to seem townie has been a tactic I have personally witnessed him use as mafia.

I think he's scummy. I'm holding out judgement until we flip Transcend, since he has a point about being unlikely to bus there, so a Transcend red flip would go some way towards making him look better. (I also think Ender's latest "we're heading to a D1 misexe :/" stance is compatible with being partners with Transcend and would look there first if Transcend flips wolf.)

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:56 am Crackpot theory #2 - in a world where lime was just the push that Matt kept trying to push through to force a misyeet I actually think mac can potentially be Matt’s partners

Here’s why:

At the start of the day mac spent a good deal trying to push through a yeet on either wiml or myself. The wiml yeet picked up no traction and despite people being wary of him, wiml never got any significant amount of votes to look like he was going over d1. Similarly, I got some votes but they’re mostly from people who are barely reading the game, and I have enough slots strongly townreading me that I’m not ever at risk.

Whilst all this was happening, suspicion was building on transcend in the background from slots such as Alison, myself and a few others.

I think it’s possible that mac never really had a plan that he hoped to unveil at eod and was merely trying to push a misyeet into wiml or myself but once he realised that isn’t the case and that transcend might be yeeted anyways he decided the best course of action would be to just bus his partner so Atleast he gets enough towncred to have a chance of trying to endgame himself.

My doubts to this theory to stem in the fact that I found his engagement of me to be quite towny when we were interacting yesterday and he’s said lines that I’ve only ever said myself when I’m town. But with Alison saying she’s seen him say the same comments as scum then this starts to matter less, and I do think he does look worse the more I start to believe wiml is reaching lock town territory.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:06 am in hindsight i'm possibly being too generous towards nanook/tony both being town when they've been parked on ilario for a long time, with seemingly no reason to support it from either end.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 am and given that i'm town, u probably don't want ur scum equity to tread upwards in my books

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:57 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 am and given that i'm town, u probably don't want ur scum equity to tread upwards in my books

Thoughts on this post?

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:50 am wiml how do u feel about me now bby

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:09 am Hi, I am back from brief break.

Anyone want to ask me questions which aren't begging me to try townreading them?

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:14 am
The only defensive post I made towards you is when you suggested I had a towntell that I knew was made up lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:24 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:09 am Hi, I am back from brief break.

Anyone want to ask me questions which aren't begging me to try townreading them?

No but will you townread me in exchange for cookies?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:22 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:57 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 am and given that i'm town, u probably don't want ur scum equity to tread upwards in my books

Thoughts on this post?

Idk if this question was meant for me, but it's minorly threatening. Which is weird pov for town.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:22 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:57 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 am and given that i'm town, u probably don't want ur scum equity to tread upwards in my books

Thoughts on this post?

Idk if this question was meant for me, but it's minorly threatening. Which is weird pov for town.

I actually thought this was the towniest post I've Transcend has made since his entrance tbh.

Mostly from the fact that he seems to genuinely want to get a response out of you and seems willing to be vaguely threatening towards you to get that desired reaction.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:14 am
The only defensive post I made towards you is when you suggested I had a towntell that I knew was made up lol.

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Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:42 am @EnderWiggin why did you vote wiml

Cause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

This time it's not a pressure vote lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 pm I'm 100% sure Ender's comment about me not towntelling is a lie btw.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:16 pm Well not 100% but I know what the tell is lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 pm I'm 100% sure Ender's comment about me not towntelling is a lie btw.

There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.

That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.

But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y

I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:49 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pm

There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.

That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.

But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y

I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.

You abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.

Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.

(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)

Oh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.

If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.

Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.

Oh I'm absolutely not using it right now. I've gone back to basic reads while discarding anything I think you'd easily replicate.

And sure, I'll allow iliario town. Their interactions have been fine.

What was the towntell I haven't done if you're saying I haven't towntold then? Were you actually just lying about it?

I guess it all was about that.

Hmm.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:24 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:09 am Hi, I am back from brief break.

Anyone want to ask me questions which aren't begging me to try townreading them?

No but will you townread me in exchange for cookies?

Tempting. What kind?

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:24 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:09 am Hi, I am back from brief break.

Anyone want to ask me questions which aren't begging me to try townreading them?

No but will you townread me in exchange for cookies?

Tempting. What kind?

Chocolate chip but I can take requests.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:30 am Voted Transcend because Mac is a vanity wagon now since absolutely no one wants to actually vote him with me despite multiple people saying they might.

Which I'd say makes me suspicious if there was a larger wolf team but I think it's just a lot of people giving him a free pass for reasons.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:14 am
The only defensive post I made towards you is when you suggested I had a towntell that I knew was made up lol.

Spoiler: show

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:42 am @EnderWiggin why did you vote wiml

Cause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

This time it's not a pressure vote lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 pm I'm 100% sure Ender's comment about me not towntelling is a lie btw.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:16 pm Well not 100% but I know what the tell is lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 pm I'm 100% sure Ender's comment about me not towntelling is a lie btw.

There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.

That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.

But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y

I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:49 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm

I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.

You abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.

Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.

(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)

Oh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.

If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.

Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.

Oh I'm absolutely not using it right now. I've gone back to basic reads while discarding anything I think you'd easily replicate.

And sure, I'll allow iliario town. Their interactions have been fine.

What was the towntell I haven't done if you're saying I haven't towntold then? Were you actually just lying about it?

I guess it all was about that.

Hmm.

I'm dropping the read now but to explain my thought process some more:

I knew that I had burned your secret towntell on me last game but I didn't think you knew I was aware of that. So when I saw you pushing a towntell on me this game that was fmpov both something I had proved was inaccurate to you in Scythe as well as not actually applicable in this game I read that as you getting one last use out of your now useless towntell (that you knew I was aware of but not what the tell actually was) to make an excuse to push me for no good reason which obviously would make you always a wolf.

Which is probably not the case from your reactions and I'm backing off that read tbh.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:35 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:30 am Voted Transcend because Mac is a vanity wagon now since absolutely no one wants to actually vote him with me despite multiple people saying they might.

Which I'd say makes me suspicious if there was a larger wolf team but I think it's just a lot of people giving him a free pass for reasons.

Pretty much my stance on him as well tbh (as in, I find him wolfy but I'm mostly giving him a pass atm).

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:06 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:35 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:30 am Voted Transcend because Mac is a vanity wagon now since absolutely no one wants to actually vote him with me despite multiple people saying they might.

Which I'd say makes me suspicious if there was a larger wolf team but I think it's just a lot of people giving him a free pass for reasons.

Pretty much my stance on him as well tbh (as in, I find him wolfy but I'm mostly giving him a pass atm).

I have no intention to get any townier tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:49 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means

I'm thread spewed town baby

same

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:26 am I clicked on my pings and he’s obvious town still yes

I may catch up now or I may go back to sleep

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:40 pm

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm Esooa is the Transcend whisperer

Prob sheep her idk

I'll be fully available in an hour

Bad defense.

But that being said I think Mac is wolf which makes you townier.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm Well I'm voting him now anyway so.

why? I am pretty obvious town. Alison is just trying to prove she can get a mac pelt. She desperate.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:27 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:25 am Transcend what do you think makes you town this game? Why should I town read you

cause i'm actually trying to get out of this mess instead of antispewing the moment i get heat and setting up partners for success

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:50 am

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:33 pm top 5 --> [ilario, Lime Coke, Wiml, Esooa, Alison]
bottom 5 --> [Ender, Mac, TSP, Nanook, Transcend]

if that wasn't obv

Do you think it’s a coincidence that for the most part you townread people you’ve played with more

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:41 am alexa, who would you most want to see wagoned outside of Transcend atm?