Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
My gut tells me a wolf wouldn't self-vote here, but considering the self-votes don't count I'm just gonna assume it isn't anything worth factoring in
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Yeah, self-voters can bite it [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergineWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:42 pmRadishes is top wagon rn but not by much since he self-voted
And someone is poisoned
even without the self vote he's still v much dead with current wagon compositionWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm My gut tells me a wolf wouldn't self-vote here, but considering the self-votes don't count I'm just gonna assume it isn't anything worth factoring in
Yeah I know, that's what I've been turning over in my headDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm I dunno
I do think at the very least MR's exit felt more townie. Kinda just leaves it out of his hands, and hands over control completely while also raising some p important points. Assuming its 4 people per team, it's just gg for his to do that which I dont think final wolf on either team is really looking to do right now x_x
I don't see why you're voting Master Radishes. Granted, I glanced.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:44 pmYeah I know, that's what I've been turning over in my headDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm I dunno
I do think at the very least MR's exit felt more townie. Kinda just leaves it out of his hands, and hands over control completely while also raising some p important points. Assuming its 4 people per team, it's just gg for his to do that which I dont think final wolf on either team is really looking to do right now x_x
I mean the self-vote is meaningless, but leaving when he's top wagon is kinda not what I'd expect from a wolf
Idk
I highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
Because I still believe we should vote someone in East at least for today, and I believe both Wilgy and Nutella are townier than Radishes.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI don't see why you're voting Master Radishes. Granted, I glanced.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:44 pmYeah I know, that's what I've been turning over in my headDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm I dunno
I do think at the very least MR's exit felt more townie. Kinda just leaves it out of his hands, and hands over control completely while also raising some p important points. Assuming its 4 people per team, it's just gg for his to do that which I dont think final wolf on either team is really looking to do right now x_x
I mean the self-vote is meaningless, but leaving when he's top wagon is kinda not what I'd expect from a wolf
Idk
That would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
what was the gotcha?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:48 pm I thought I had a gotcha on Radishes earlier today and then sorta dropped it but kept it in the back of my mind.
I think his exit is townier than not, but it's all WIFOM in the end. And Wilgy has done enough that I don't want to vote him anymore.
This is pretty much my thoughts as well.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:33 pmWhen I said that, I just assumed if my facility has all the wolves and we yeet all of the people in my facility, including me, we are guaranteed a win.
I don't particularly like entertaining paranoia about the West facility but I also don't want to be the one who loses us the game by insisting that we yeet everyone in East including myself.
So idk anymore.
Not necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
?????????WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
When he was asked today why he voted Alison over Brad on D1 in East Facility, and he said he wanted to ensure a counterwagon existed. My case was that his primary reason shouldve been that he scumread Alison, but he argued that it was implicit that he scumread her or he wouldn't have picked her as a counterwagon.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmwhat was the gotcha?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:48 pm I thought I had a gotcha on Radishes earlier today and then sorta dropped it but kept it in the back of my mind.
I think his exit is townier than not, but it's all WIFOM in the end. And Wilgy has done enough that I don't want to vote him anymore.
If that kind of role was in play, surely we'd have seen evidence by now? That could have flipped the falcon lynch for instanceWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
Let's just say I think he's restricted to one post/vote per dayDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:51 pm?????????WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
They posted/voted twice on D4? That may be why they hadn't posted D5 howeverWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pmLet's just say I think he's restricted to one post/vote per dayDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:51 pm?????????WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That's all he ever did in East Facility
And once the threads merged? I've seen even less.
Hadn't Davos already voted that day? Check the vote history. Because I don't think they can move their vote after they've placed it.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pmIf that kind of role was in play, surely we'd have seen evidence by now? That could have flipped the falcon lynch for instanceWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
Wait, really? In that case I missed itleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pmThey posted/voted twice on D4? That may be why they hadn't posted D5 howeverWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pmLet's just say I think he's restricted to one post/vote per dayDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:51 pm?????????WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pmNot necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pmThat would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's threeWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pmI highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That's all he ever did in East Facility
And once the threads merged? I've seen even less.
If they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
Could be that it doesn't actually countleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmIf they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
mentioned earlier but I dont think the puppet votes are weighted, if that changes anything ?_?leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmIf they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
Do you have evidence that they don't? I don't know what purpose they'd have if they couldn't voteDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pmmentioned earlier but I dont think the puppet votes are weighted, if that changes anything ?_?leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmIf they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
There haven't been close enough wagons that we'd know for sureleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pmDo you have evidence that they don't? I don't know what purpose they'd have if they couldn't voteDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pmmentioned earlier but I dont think the puppet votes are weighted, if that changes anything ?_?leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmIf they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
That's proof that they count: Scrappy's hole killed themWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm I do see the second D4 vote now, btw, and Davos dug a hole (which makes sense since scrappy could too)
could have some sort of power tied to them, or maybe just for fun? shrugleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pmDo you have evidence that they don't? I don't know what purpose they'd have if they couldn't voteDelta wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pmmentioned earlier but I dont think the puppet votes are weighted, if that changes anything ?_?leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmIf they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pmNothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
That was event participation, thoughleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pmThat's proof that they count: Scrappy's hole killed themWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm I do see the second D4 vote now, btw, and Davos dug a hole (which makes sense since scrappy could too)
i miss scrappy can we trade out the puppetsleetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pmThat's proof that they count: Scrappy's hole killed themWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm I do see the second D4 vote now, btw, and Davos dug a hole (which makes sense since scrappy could too)