The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:10 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:09 pm I'd like to order a latte and a blueberry muffin as well, please, Jimmeeey?

Dis player baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:11 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:09 pm I'd like to order a latte and a blueberry muffin as well, please, Jimmeeey?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:12 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:48 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine

To be with the cool kids.

Okay. Fine. Let me take my Lord’s name in vain and say: Jesus fucking Christ.

I’m Keith. I thought you would all see what I see, but you don’t, or maybe I could do this and leave doubt in the mafia’s minds. But right now — as opposed to when Marmot made his claim — this is actually a dire fucking situation. The irony is not lost on me, and I fully expect some of you to dig your heels and vote me anyway. To the others, I ask that you consider why Marmot was so low on your list before his fakeclaim, and whether or not you trust that initial assessment. I also ask you to reconsider the argument I presented earlier today against him if you did not find it sound.

I am a good Christian man. I have 6 fucking votes on me. I see why you decided what you did, but you’re being taken for a ride. I don’t know if you want to lynch Marmot since I’m pretty sure he’s Cabernog or if you want to try another one of his teammates. I really don’t know who that would be. I’m sorry I can’t be a bigger help, but I would rather take my chances on confirming Marmot than lynching a townie, so that’s where my vote stays. At least that way you’ll know I’m telling the truth.

I have no guarantee I’ll be around at EOD otherwise I would try to find another way. And maybe there is no other way now. I don’t know. Maybe they’ll kill lap instead.

Fuck. Just do the right thing.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 pm**

Good. Now it's 100% certain that either Marmot or Colin is mafia.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:14 pm**

I'm so confused

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:14 pm**

Colin, who did you protect?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 pm**

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] why didn't you give your target names when asked to

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:16 pm**

Ok if colin actually dies as Keith we are so screwed cus ima die late anyways rip

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:16 pm**

I protected you, Kyle and Charlie on the basis of all being townreads. I didn’t mean to give my ISO of Charlie a negative slant like you said.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:17 pm**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 pm @ColinIsCool why didn't you give your target names when asked to

I was hoping people would agree with my assessment of Marmot’s claim as illogical rather than impossible, and that I wouldn’t get home from work to have the score be 6-to-fucking-1.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:18 pm**

Fucking A.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:18 pm**

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Marmot's breadcrumbs are bullshit. First, protecting Colin is fake, and second -- why breadcrumb protection targets in the first place? It's not an investigative role.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:19 pm**

I can understand colons frustrations, somebody steal calming your role, you'd be furious at that too. I kinda believe him now

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:20 pm**

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention], can I get an interactive analysis of Marmot and Charlie?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:20 pm**

I'm switching over to marmot

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:21 pm**

Marmot learned from FZ.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:21 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:36 am I'm left with Epi if I stick with my "a thread leader is bad" theory.

I'm a thread leader?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:23 pm**

Be back in a bit, well prior to the deadline.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:24 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 pm Good. Now it's 100% certain that either Marmot or Colin is mafia.

Yeah at least we have this.

Damn it Colin you took so long that I don't know whether to believe you especially since you actively denied it earlier.

But I did town read you before all this and can't say the same for Marmot, so I guess I'll bite the bullet and [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Oh yeah also I didn't buy marmot's point about Kyle because it was very easily retroactive

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:24 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 pm Good. Now it's 100% certain that either Marmot or Colin is mafia.

A win for me! 2/3 start reads. I should never let my reads progress in games. Fucks everything up.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:25 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:48 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine

To be with the cool kids.
Okay. Fine. Let me take my Lord’s name in vain and say: Jesus fucking Christ.

I’m Keith. I thought you would all see what I see, but you don’t, or maybe I could do this and leave doubt in the mafia’s minds. But right now — as opposed to when Marmot made his claim — this is actually a dire fucking situation. The irony is not lost on me, and I fully expect some of you to dig your heels and vote me anyway. To the others, I ask that you consider why Marmot was so low on your list before his fakeclaim, and whether or not you trust that initial assessment. I also ask you to reconsider the argument I presented earlier today against him if you did not find it sound.

I am a good Christian man. I have 6 fucking votes on me. I see why you decided what you did, but you’re being taken for a ride. I don’t know if you want to lynch Marmot since I’m pretty sure he’s Cabernog or if you want to try another one of his teammates. I really don’t know who that would be. I’m sorry I can’t be a bigger help, but I would rather take my chances on confirming Marmot than lynching a townie, so that’s where my vote stays. At least that way you’ll know I’m telling the truth.

I have no guarantee I’ll be around at EOD otherwise I would try to find another way. And maybe there is no other way now. I don’t know. Maybe they’ll kill lap instead.

Fuck. Just do the right thing.

If I really was Cabernog, I'd only have one teammate.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:20 pm @Dyslexicon, can I get an interactive analysis of Marmot and Charlie?

Lololololol, we'll seeeee

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:27 pm**

Plot twist neither of them is Keith
Actual mafia teammates

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:30 pm**

Oh people actually believe Colin, and Jay's confidence is so incredibly high right now, he's projecting my claim as bullshit when I actually bothered to leave evidence for my claim.

This game is funny.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:30 pm**

Colin, I don't think it would take Marmot much thought to understand you are Keith. You didn't hide well. : p

I believe Colin over Marmot. He immediately reacted negatively to the claim.

Also, I can read Marmot souls. I told you all.
[VOTE:
Marmot] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:21 pm Marmot learned from FZ.

Oh yeah. On PerC fake claiming (as scum and town, actually) is pretty common. I remember the reaction being very wow when FZ did it. ^^

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:34 pm**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:27 pm Plot twist neither of them is Keith
Actual mafia teammates

I'm the real Keith!

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:35 pm**

Getting a scum for a PT is a win though. It's not a terrible thing. This is mostly to Colin : p

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:37 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:10 pm Updated POE:

Dizzy
Colin
Charlie

I think it’s the latter two. Epi’s civilian read on Colin is bogus.

No it wasn't.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:38 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:11 pm Oh I see, the other two players with votes.

I have a suspicion of Colin because of that one icky post. I want to lynch Jay because his case on me is crap and the case that I'm town is far stronger than what he's put together and voted me for. And I want to lynch Charlie because he doesn't care about the roof. Those are my thoughts right now.

We don't have a roof at Coors.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:38 pm**

Eloh > Marmot lynch.

Charlie, Jimmeey, Nut and Quin on Eloh.

Scotty on Marmot.

I was effectively on Marmot, but Jimmey asked me to switch.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:42 pm**

Question for the field:

If claiming is legal, why can't everyone just claim and the game be over?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:49 pm**

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:42 pm Question for the field:

If claiming is legal, why can't everyone just claim and the game be over?

I was thinking so too..
Who are you?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:50 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:34 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:27 pm Plot twist neither of them is Keith
Actual mafia teammates
I'm the real Keith!

no.. I'M the real Keith

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:55 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 3:26 pm
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 9:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 6:54 pm I thought he and Elo were scumming it up together, but I might have been tunneling a bit too hard on that. If Colin is bad, which I cirrrntly think, his vote for Marmot to save Elo is the best look yet for Marmot.

Coincidentally, colin’s defense and attempted save of Elo is also what Epi thinks casts him in golden light and flower petals. Those are my bets for teammates
I've been one of the least trusted people. My teammate is Colin, so I make him my most trusted person?

How successful are you at the plate?
I forget, are you the type of person to bus your teammate when Mafia or defend, or both? I remember catching INH defending all his teammates in GoC. That’s fresher in my mind is why I’m going there first

I'm a team player. Whether I defend someone on my team or not is a different matter.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 5:57 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:16 pm If I am interpreting G-Man’s posts correctly, I have serious qualms with Marmot’s claim.

What does this post mean Colin? This is your first reaction to my claim, and your qualm was based on your interpretation of G-Man's posts, not my claim itself.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:01 pm**

Marmot talking about/to Charlie ISO

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:24 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:28 pm I think Charlie Blackmoor was specifically talking about Jay rather than making a sweeping statement about low posters in general
Correct. Never take out your heavy hitters without good reason. Turn everybody else into a heavy hitter instead.
And yet you voted for Macdougall?

If JaggedJimmyJay is batting third, then Macdougall is your cleanup man. Why vote for him?

Asks about Charlie voting for Mac.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:47 pmCharlie Blackmon

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 12:22 pm Charlie Blackmon, you're up to bat.

Don't know what this means really.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm Nice kill choice Jay.
You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.
No way, I'd take this golden opportunity and kill Charlie Blackmon.

NK wifom.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:31 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:22 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm Nice kill choice Jay.
You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.
That's more like an MP pitch.
Killing an inactive in a burglary where you have 10 minutes to submit your night actions doesn't really match this scenario.

But, I do agree that MP is someone who would kill a low poster. He complained to the mafia pretty vocally in Ancient Greece about all the active players being killed off.

Corrects/disagrees, and then agrees in same post.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:47 am Charlie Blackmon[/b]

I intentionally put everyone in a non-neutral read tier (with the exception of Floyd), with the attempt of taking a stance on every player, and treating as a GTH sort of rainbow.

Orange read.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:55 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 11:00 pm wolbre04 should be go next. I'm surprised this JaggedJimmyJay guy didn't comment on what I had to say about him, and instead said I had done nothing.
Does the fact that Jay didn't respond to this influence your read on him?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:09 pm
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 11:00 pm wolbre04 should be go next. I'm surprised this JaggedJimmyJay guy didn't comment on what I had to say about him, and instead said I had done nothing.
What are you referring to in this post?

Curiously has two responses to the same post of Charlie.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:28 pm
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:46 pm I want everyone to reflect on why JJJ is automatically a ninth inning at-bat. Go.
That's not a reason to lynch him.

This is a thing. (Marmot's interaction with Charlie reads as extremely safe to me at this point).

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:34 amI've gone back and forth on Charlie. His contributions to this game have come when he's taken heat, and despite his low activity (by his standards) and use of baseball metaphors, he's still taken to bashing others' playstyle, namely MP.

Safe apprehensive read.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:05 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:34 am I've gone back and forth on Charlie. His contributions to this game have come when he's taken heat, and despite his low activity (by his standards) and use of baseball metaphors, he's still taken to bashing others' playstyle, namely MP.
Can I get some more input on this comment I made, and also on Charlie in general?

Asks for input.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:20 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:11 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:05 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:34 am I've gone back and forth on Charlie. His contributions to this game have come when he's taken heat, and despite his low activity (by his standards) and use of baseball metaphors, he's still taken to bashing others' playstyle, namely MP.
Can I get some more input on this comment I made, and also on Charlie in general?
Is bashing others’ playstyles alignment indicative for him?
No, I've seen him bash on players before, especially those who post a ton, heck he even hosted a game where you couldn't post more than 4 times in a day phase. But this posting based on a theme with baseball metaphors is new to me. So is being one of the lowest posters in the game.

My main qualm is my first point, is that it looks like he's posting more when under fire, and he doesn't look like a player who wants to solve the game. I didn't expect it on Day 1, but it's Day 4 now, and that's intent hasn't shown up, something I would expect from him.

Pink is very interesting, and I actually noticed it first time around too. "Ive seen him bash players BEFORE" seems to imply that Marmot knows Epi's alignment.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:11 pm Oh I see, the other two players with votes.

I have a suspicion of Colin because of that one icky post. I want to lynch Jay because his case on me is crap and the case that I'm town is far stronger than what he's put together and voted me for. And I want to lynch Charlie because he doesn't care about the roof. Those are my thoughts right now.

Expresses lynch intent with a few other players.

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Marmot also makes joke posts with Charlie a couple of times.

Overall I think the interaction is incredibly safe and definitely something I would expect from someone who is teamed. What do people think? Will do Charlie -> Marmot too.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:01 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:27 pm
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 9:47 pm I've been one of the least trusted people. My teammate is Colin, so I make him my most trusted person?

How successful are you at the plate?
Why wouldn't you do this?

I feel like I've just gone six extra innings after a long rain delay at night and am in a doubleheader today. I'd probably tell Colin to try and have me ejected or something.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:03 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:47 pm Has anyone done a Colin/Charlie interaction analysis?

I could see Charlie being low effort and blah because of the first lynch I guess.

Did you know I was once a Warden and something like that happened?

Or maybe I dreamed it.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm**

I am at the gym. If I come back to find myself lynched, tomorrow I will bench press 275 lbs. out of Mafia-inspired rage. I’ll try to be home in time to reply to messages but I can’t guarantee it.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:18 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Marmot's breadcrumbs are bullshit. First, protecting Colin is fake, and second -- why breadcrumb protection targets in the first place? It's not an investigative role.

I suppose Colin and I are teammates after all.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm**

This is really unfair. Everybody goes through the trouble to pair me with Colin, and now the plan is to pair me with Marmot.

I'll save everybody a lot of time. I'm Hoarce. Good day.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm**

And I can't even spell my name right.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:18 pm**

Hey all, just want to urge you to think about a couple things before this day phase ends.

1) Here's my claim. Each night I protected someone, I left a little hint of who I protected that night, and those posts are linked in this post.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:03 pm Before this lynch gets out of hand, I'm Keith Shover.

I targeted Colin on Night 1.
I targeted Kyle on Night 2.
I targeted no one on Night 3.

I'm not sure of my own availability today, and I'm clearly the wagon leader, so I'm claiming now. Above are links to bread crumbs I left in the thread as to who I protected each night (although unfortunately, my attempt on Kyle failed).

Anyway, shift your eyes elsewhere town. There's no scum here.

2) Colin had several hours to discuss and debate the validity of my claim. His primary qualm was that he thought it was a dumb thing to do considering my circumstances, which were that I was under lynch pressure, though in his eyes not enough lynch pressure. But those several hours gave him time to construct a counter-claim, something that should be noted.

Anyway, aside from the fact that Colin's claim is the newest raddest thing, why do people believe his claim over mine?

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:19 pm**

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm This is really unfair. Everybody goes through the trouble to pair me with Colin, and now the plan is to pair me with Marmot.

I'll save everybody a lot of time. I'm Hoarce. Good day.

That actually is against the rules now.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:20 pm**

Charlie's talking to/about Marmot ISO

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:30 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I guess that's how this works.

Votes Mac first thing. Wow edgy. Definitely teammate compatible.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:24 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:28 pm I think Charlie Blackmoor was specifically talking about Jay rather than making a sweeping statement about low posters in general
Correct. Never take out your heavy hitters without good reason. Turn everybody else into a heavy hitter instead.
And yet you voted for Macdougall?

If JaggedJimmyJay is batting third, then Macdougall is your cleanup man. Why vote for him?
MacDougall had not done anything in this game to warrant batting cleanup or being called a heavy hitter.

I believe this translates to "had not done anything town-like" which ironically is Epi's point against all accusations on him (that he's not supposed to be convicted for not doing town-like things).

Epi eventually moves his vote to me D1. I asked him why, but he never answered.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm Nice kill choice Jay.
You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.
No way, I'd take this golden opportunity and kill Charlie Blackmon.
I 100% buy this.

Not sure if joke or not.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 5:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 5:44 pm
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 5:15 pm I still think taking Eloh out of the lineup is the right move. Sometimes we're told not to overthink it. I think this is one of those cases.
Do you have anything positive to say about Marmot?
I appreciate the activity and enthusiasm. We don't often see that, you know? Any problems I have with the critter is because of the guy he's pinch hitting for.

A positive and rather safe read.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 am Mr. Blackmon, I agree that an active player is probably bad. I don’t understand though why you’re inclined to eliminate Marmot from that equation. And what of Colin?
I don't understand why people are inclined to eliminate Marmot.

I like Colin. A lot.

Doesn't get people's issue with Marmot.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:11 pm Oh I see, the other two players with votes.

I have a suspicion of Colin because of that one icky post. I want to lynch Jay because his case on me is crap and the case that I'm town is far stronger than what he's put together and voted me for. And I want to lynch Charlie because he doesn't care about the roof. Those are my thoughts right now.
We don't have a roof at Coors.

Yeah.

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Not a tone of interaction. Most if it positive towards Marmot. I think if they are teammates there would be no real need for Charlie to throw Marmot under the bus as Marmot has been active involved and is capable. I'd say teammates is a possibility.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pm**

What?

Well, I guess I just saved myself a bunch of time instead. Have fun.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:22 pm**

I can't keep up with this and the other thing at the same time. I'm sorry everybody. I can't do it and work and everything else I have to do. It's too much for me.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:22 pm**

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm This is really unfair. Everybody goes through the trouble to pair me with Colin, and now the plan is to pair me with Marmot.

I'll save everybody a lot of time. I'm Hoarce. Good day.

Omg.

Posted: **Wed May 30, 2018 6:23 pm**

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 6:22 pm I can't keep up with this and the other thing at the same time. I'm sorry everybody. I can't do it and work and everything else I have to do. It's too much for me.

Alright. I get it. But don't be surprised that people suspect you. It's not unfair. it's the game.

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