The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:02 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:01 pm Host/spec option can be used to unvote.

No TK can also be used for this, as it cannot be hammered.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.

Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:04 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

Huh? Explain

Sloonei is lock town for me at this point so clarify this point for me

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:05 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:24 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
lolcatting?

What does that even mean?
obv!scumming.
No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.
Why claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?
I said this already.

I'm not going back and quoting it.

I am a civilian because my role says I am.

I don't understand the fourth question. I had one target. I talked about Sloonei Day 2.

You didn't answer the first question. Why was your reaction to seeing you had votes to hastily claim without even reading?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm "To say we're both right" is a stupid way of putting it. I just mean I targeted Mac and nothing happened. Funnygirl said she saw me target Mac. I'm not lying. Why would she be lying?
I thought you didn't target mac?

I didn't. I wrote that shit wrong.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??

LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

Never mind my question about this, I get it now. That's assuming the last mafia was in the thread at the time. The last mafia could easily have been afk (speedchuck perhaps)

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??
LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w

Why not?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:08 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
Never mind my question about this, I get it now. That's assuming the last mafia was in the thread at the time. The last mafia could easily have been afk (speedchuck perhaps)

or rather, assuming Sloonei is town as I do, there were two mafia afk... hmm. tony also?

This is a stretch lol. Epi prob just scum anyway.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:08 pm**

Epi says he blocked Sloonei. Sloonei says he wasn't blocked. Is there a dead blocker? Like, someone that could have blocked Epi?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:09 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:24 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
lolcatting?

What does that even mean?
obv!scumming.
No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.
Why claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?
I said this already.

I'm not going back and quoting it.

I am a civilian because my role says I am.

I don't understand the fourth question. I had one target. I talked about Sloonei Day 2.
You didn't answer the first question. Why was your reaction to seeing you had votes to hastily claim without even reading?

The first question is "Why fake it?"

The question I think you're asking about is "Why claim it in the first place?"

I said why. Sloonei and JJJ up my ass is intolerable. I wanted to save them the trouble but ironically I got myself in more trouble. Super.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:08 pm Epi says he blocked Sloonei. Sloonei says he wasn't blocked. Is there a dead blocker? Like, someone that could have blocked Epi?

I have since rescinded this claim. It is not impossible that I was blocked. I targeted turnip with an item, not a role ability.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??
LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w
Why not?

Pretty aggressive buddying scheme for teammates. It’s not out of anyone’s range and I suppose there are pairs I could see it with, but it feels earnest.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm**

Epi, have you claimed a character?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm Epi, have you claimed a character?

I have not.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm Epi, have you claimed a character?
I have not.

whoooooo are you
who who
who who

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:13 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:08 pm Epi says he blocked Sloonei. Sloonei says he wasn't blocked. Is there a dead blocker? Like, someone that could have blocked Epi?
I have since rescinded this claim. It is not impossible that I was blocked. I targeted turnip with an item, not a role ability.

Gotcha.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:13 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:42 pm Looked like fun to do a hammer. I didn't hammer, I just put it within range.

Idk man, kinda looked like a slip to me. But only if Epi's town which I have to chew on more.

The scum team could be LC/Speed/Tony or LC/Speed/Mikey. I'd believe that. Or LC/Tony/Mikey I guess is possible as well.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:13 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??
LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w
Why not?
Pretty aggressive buddying scheme for teammates. It’s not out of anyone’s range and I suppose there are pairs I could see it with, but it feels earnest.

It's tough to judge due to both being new to me.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:14 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm Epi, have you claimed a character?
I have not.
whoooooo are you
who who
who who

Roger Daltrey.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:14 pm**

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] [mention]nutella[/mention] who is your second strongest town read after me?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:14 pm**

Pretty funny if Epi and FG are both town and there was just some mechanical fuckery. I do actually want to believe that Epi is telling the truth about not targeting anyone N1. Who knows what's up with that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:15 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm I maintain that speedchuck is the right lynch today, if our interlopers are to be trusted.

I seriously need some character claims from some people. @speedchuck @Epignosis Here’s the defense: it’s role madness and I know nothing about Assassin’s Creed so you’re not losing much.

This is the wolf case.

Funnygurl can back me up on this. We're in the middle of a mechanical dichotomy, and someone wants us to lynch outside the mechanical dichotomy. Somehow, that makes you a wolf.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:15 pm**

the only conceivable way that epi and i are both telling the truth is if there's some sorta bus driver or ... puppet master type wolf role

but then you gotta think odds here

there is a world where we're both telling the truth but it's very unlikely

i want sour gummy rings

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

Does it make any difference what my role is? I'll say so if it does. I was just being funny.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

Haytham Kenway

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

That's my name.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:15 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm I maintain that speedchuck is the right lynch today, if our interlopers are to be trusted.

I seriously need some character claims from some people. @speedchuck @Epignosis Here’s the defense: it’s role madness and I know nothing about Assassin’s Creed so you’re not losing much.
This is the wolf case.

Funnygurl can back me up on this. We're in the middle of a mechanical dichotomy, and someone wants us to lynch outside the mechanical dichotomy. Somehow, that makes you a wolf.

oh yeah i thought the same thing. well, not that i'm convinced he's a wolf but that his post looked real sus

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 pm**

Funygurl's character does not seem like he'd possess a pirate ship.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:14 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @nutella who is your second strongest town read after me?

Oof that's actually really hard. I'd say FG solely based on the claim business (plus I guess her interaction with mikey afterward), though I wouldn't have named her as a top town read before that. I think everyone else has a fairly decent chance of being mafia. Tony being perhaps the one I have the least direct opinion about -- maybe I should look into him as I recall a pretty decent town case for him from either you or Jay

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:15 pm the only conceivable way that epi and i are both telling the truth is if there's some sorta bus driver or ... puppet master type wolf role

but then you gotta think odds here

there is a world where we're both telling the truth but it's very unlikely

i want sour gummy rings

Busdrive from Sloonei onto Mac for Epi. Was Mac blocked Night 2?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 pm Funygurl's character does not seem like he'd possess a pirate ship.

i don't but i have an eagle

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm**

Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:19 pm**

Ignoring any sort of mechanical night action oddities, Epignosis is a wolf here just by the wagonomics... Or was, I suppose, before the unvote. Now all you could say is that there is guaranteed one or more scum between Epignosis/Long Con.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:19 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.

Eh?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.

No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:19 pm Ignoring any sort of mechanical night action oddities, Epignosis is a wolf here just by the wagonomics... Or was, I suppose, before the unvote. Now all you could say is that there is guaranteed one or more scum between Epignosis/Long Con.

How comfortable are you ignoring those?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:21 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:45 pm This brings up the potential to poke another hole in funnygurl's claim: she claims to have caught Epi targeting Mac night 1, but she also pads that claim with two other players who are accused of targeting Mac: ted and drago. Both of them are dead and unable to confirm/deny that claim. It immediately becomes Epi's word versus hers, and Epi is Public Enemy #1 before any of this begins. It would be a convoluted play, but not an inconceivable one.
I'm considering it, because the mafia only need one more mislynch.

Would be a pretty elaborate fakeclaim if so, but I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.

I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.

Ah. Ok, I mostly go from memory, and also I like weed. So...

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:19 pm Ignoring any sort of mechanical night action oddities, Epignosis is a wolf here just by the wagonomics... Or was, I suppose, before the unvote. Now all you could say is that there is guaranteed one or more scum between Epignosis/Long Con.
How comfortable are you ignoring those?

Entirely comfortable. In worlds where you are both telling the truth about your roles, you are still a wolf.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.
I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.

This is fallout from your mistaken post + funnygurl's claim.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:19 pm Ignoring any sort of mechanical night action oddities, Epignosis is a wolf here just by the wagonomics... Or was, I suppose, before the unvote. Now all you could say is that there is guaranteed one or more scum between Epignosis/Long Con.
How comfortable are you ignoring those?
Entirely comfortable. In worlds where you are both telling the truth about your roles, you are still a wolf.

Let's have your vote then laddie.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.
I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.
This is fallout from your mistaken post + funnygurl's claim.

What fallout? I'm telling the truth.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:49 pm Every single player has appeared today. The only one not present recently is Tony. If the mafia are in a position right now where they can hammer Epignosis with a quick spurt of votes (if one or neither of Sloonei and Long Con are mafia), then the only thing preventing that right this moment would have to be a mafia Tony.
mafia Tony is reliable

Lol

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:25 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm "To say we're both right" is a stupid way of putting it. I just mean I targeted Mac and nothing happened. Funnygirl said she saw me target Mac. I'm not lying. Why would she be lying?

Wait what?

You mean you did target mac and it didn't go through, probably because of his ship?
That's not what you said before.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:25 pm**

There is a spark to mafia tony's game that I'm not seeing here. I think he'd be my strongest town read. Turnip Head also made a slight push against him near the end of Day 2.

mac and ted would have been my strongest town reads today.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:26 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:25 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm "To say we're both right" is a stupid way of putting it. I just mean I targeted Mac and nothing happened. Funnygirl said she saw me target Mac. I'm not lying. Why would she be lying?
Wait what?

You mean you did target mac and it didn't go through, probably because of his ship?
That's not what you said before.

No, I misspoke.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:26 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm "To say we're both right" is a stupid way of putting it. I just mean I targeted Mac and nothing happened. Funnygirl said she saw me target Mac. I'm not lying. Why would she be lying?
I thought you didn't target mac?
I didn't. I wrote that shit wrong.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:27 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.
I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.
This is fallout from your mistaken post + funnygurl's claim.
What fallout? I'm telling the truth.

The fallout is merely Long Con acting the fool.

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