The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:02 pm**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:57 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:52 pm How are people reading Seanzie right now?
im pretty tempted to vote for seanzie, i dont really like the wagons today and i have a feeling both ted and TSP are town and the wolves are just like "hey cool"
I'm wondering that myself. I find tho that often when there is a decent CW, it means a wolf is in the lynch pool. But Seanzie is not giving me good vibes right now
who's the counter wagon, TSP? hasn't mac been on him since before ted started getting lots of votes?

I believe so. What's your take on that?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:04 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:02 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:57 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:52 pm How are people reading Seanzie right now?
im pretty tempted to vote for seanzie, i dont really like the wagons today and i have a feeling both ted and TSP are town and the wolves are just like "hey cool"
I'm wondering that myself. I find tho that often when there is a decent CW, it means a wolf is in the lynch pool. But Seanzie is not giving me good vibes right now
who's the counter wagon, TSP? hasn't mac been on him since before ted started getting lots of votes?
I believe so. What's your take on that?

i'm not sure, i guess it could be the other way around with TSP being saved and ted being the counter wagon? let me go back and check who voted when

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:05 pm**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:52 pm How are people reading Seanzie right now?
im pretty tempted to vote for seanzie, i dont really like the wagons today and i have a feeling both ted and TSP are town and the wolves are just like "hey cool"

Do you townread them, or do you not like the makeup of the wagons specifically?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:05 pm**

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:06 pm**

I feel like we've hit a lull and we're lacking cohesion. How can we rememdy that?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:07 pm**

tsp industries endorses the sean wagon

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:07 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:05 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 3:52 pm How are people reading Seanzie right now?
im pretty tempted to vote for seanzie, i dont really like the wagons today and i have a feeling both ted and TSP are town and the wolves are just like "hey cool"

Do you townread them, or do you not like the makeup of the wagons specifically?

i townread ted more than tsp but i dont necessarily not townread tsp either

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm**

TSP has done a decent amount of solving in the chat compared to what he's posted in the thread fwiw

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 am You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?
Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

What do people make of this falcon post?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm**

can you explain your read on ted?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:10 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 am You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?
Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

What do people make of this falcon post?

I like it tbh

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:10 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 am You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?
Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

What do people make of this falcon post?

mindmeld -- me and jpic were just talking about this. i think, based on the image of falcon I have in my mind, this is a good look for falc just on archetyping. he accused me of something similar and I think the level one read, which is appropriate here, is that it's the kind of post that town is far more likely to make.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:11 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:10 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 am You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?
Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

What do people make of this falcon post?
I like it tbh

What do you like about it?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:13 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:11 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:10 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 am You want to lynch me cuz of Ted's read on me?

My point is that I think you're teammates. Also that's not the only reason I want to yeet you, I also didn't like the post you made about Mac on Day 2 saying "he was dancing around the question".

Talk to me about ted, @falcon45ca. Do you want to yeet him today or no?
Well Ted's read on me is 100%, so that's somewhat worrisome. I am town, but like he should have some doubt. He's had me lock town basically since the start of the game. He's had reasons for it, but the fact that it's never wavered, or that seemingly every post I make secures his belief is fucked...I'd expect some doubt from some of my posts, that's just the nature of the game & town paranoia.

What do people make of this falcon post?
I like it tbh

What do you like about it?

What TSP just said

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:15 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 pm can you explain your read on ted?

not sure if you were asking me but i'll explain anyway, i felt like he has been pretty actively hunting for a while, and i don't think its strange for him to have strong town reads that don't waver if he has a good reason to believe that person is town. ofc there is always going to be some doubt but if you feel good enough about someone to strongly townread and/or defend them i don't think that means you are a wolf bc you "know" they are town

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:16 pm**

I feel like ted is just trying to bravado his way out of the TK but idk that its ai

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:17 pm**

what's a TK?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:17 pm**

Town kill

Elimination

Chop

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:21 pm**

yeah it's probably NAI fwiw

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:22 pm**

someone got a btsc chart thingy handy? interested in who esooa was chatting with

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:23 pm**

sean promised me something approximating that and has not given it to me

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:23 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:22 pm someone got a btsc chart thingy handy? interested in who esooa was chatting with

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:24 pm**

Mine was random today btw. I forgot to pick.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:24 pm**

nice thanks dana

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:27 pm**

might be in tunnel city, but the esooa nk tells me a few things

1) she was a lot more vocal about reads in there than in the thread, since d2 was a no-read day for her afaict
2) dana probably didn't do the kill, since esooa must have stated numerous times in the thread that dana is a town read for her

so it's either esooa was closer to at least one person of the scum team towards her confidant, or she was getting around to it while in thread

people generally say nka shouldn't be a thing, but with this game state i feel like it should be

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:29 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:27 pm 1) she was a lot more vocal about reads in there than in the thread, since d2 was a no-read day for her afaict

in chat, i meant

also, dana is probably the strongest town read alive and the nk actually makes her look good. the nk wasn't on a consensus town read player, but someone that was sorta there and had the ability / skill to turn it around. and in a game state that looks like a town loss, wolves chose someone with that skill over someone town read, so they aren't under a lot of heat

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:31 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:29 pm but someone that was sorta there and had the ability / skill to turn it around

potentially because they are a good reader of someone or they expressed the slightest suspicion towards a slot and it didn't come to fruition, so they killed her before she went with it

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:33 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:27 pm might be in tunnel city, but the esooa nk tells me a few things

1) she was a lot more vocal about reads in there than in the thread, since d2 was a no-read day for her afaict
2) dana probably didn't do the kill, since esooa must have stated numerous times in the thread that dana is a town read for her

so it's either esooa was closer to at least one person of the scum team towards her confidant, or she was getting around to it while in thread

people generally say nka shouldn't be a thing, but with this game state i feel like it should be

im gonna look back at our btsc and see what her reads were, but she did also mention that she wasn't following the game super closely. what is nka? night kill.. action?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:33 pm**

Night kill analysis

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:33 pm**

if at any point seanzie flips wolf, falcon is probably not with him due to that early post.

typically, posts like those can usually be made between w/w people too, but falcon's currently voting for him over me, which probably discards that pairing. thus, probably up falcon a few tiers if seanzie is a wolf

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:34 pm**

why do people think night kill analysis shouldn't be a thing? isn't the whole point to analyze everything going on

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:35 pm**

feels like marmot is town but i don't think i'm the best reader of him

falcon town is my read irregardless of seanzie still, but that's even a better look

dana town

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:35 pm**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:34 pm why do people think night kill analysis shouldn't be a thing? isn't the whole point to analyze everything going on

wifooooom

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:36 pm**

If we're talking NKA, I'd argue that sean wouldn't kill Jay, but that's my opinion.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:37 pm**

esooa townread me, nanook, mac, TSP, marmot, and eventually ted after reading his iso. she also started to townread JPIC a little bit later on too

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:37 pm**

i really wish i could be anyone that mac has ever had a chat with, since from reading the thread he's completely different from any town game i've ever seen from him

he must've promised you the moon in chats

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:46 pm**

the only mac post that had some heat / aggressiveness behind it was towards sean

perhaps w/w

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:47 pm**

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

eh, good luck

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 8:35 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 8:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 8:30 pm We have four kills

Falcon is one

Sean and jpic probably

Nobody else really inspires me, we'll figure it out
how sure are you about falcon?
Well, I promised Joseph id help him kill falcon, and tbh I do think he's been kind of scummy, so

Confident enough to push it!
That's a pretty shallow reason to push me. Is Joe Mac? Tell me, what can we say that Mac has done that's yielded positive results for the town? Which Maf has he helped us lynch?
This is a pretty unfair way to play the game if you're town Falcon. I am not responsible for either of the lynches. I didn't promote the day 1 sleepwalk and in fact I opposed it. I also was solving outside of the Gavial sleepwalk until Nanook asked me to drop it.

this is part of the problem

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:51 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:58 pm [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

and who does esooa vote?

and who can she read well?

oh gee, i wonder. resting my case.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:52 pm**

idk, my yolo guess is seanzie / mac but it's entirely based on mac being scum

let's hope for the best

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:54 pm**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:23 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:22 pm someone got a btsc chart thingy handy? interested in who esooa was chatting with

Spoiler: show
Day 1:

Bo -> Falcon (assigned)
Dana -> JPIC
Esooa -> Mac
Falcon -> Sean
Gavial -> Marmot
JJJ -> TSP
JPIC -> Marmot
Mac -> Esooa
Marmot -> Nanook
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> Marmot
Ted -> JPIC
TSP -> Mac

Day 2:

Dana -> Nanook
Esooa -> Dana
Falcon -> Marmot
Gavial -> Nanook
JPIC -> Mac
Mac -> JPIC (assigned)
Marmot -> (JJJ)
Nanook -> (JJJ)
Sean -> Mac
Ted -> Marmot (assigned)
TSP -> Nanook

Day 3:

Dana -> Marmot
Falcon -> Mac (?)
JPIC -> TSP
Mac ->
Marmot -> TSP
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> TSP
Ted ->
TSP -> Falcon

Ted RNG'd his pick on me d3

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:57 pm**

v
dana
falcon (go down a few tiers if sean isn't scum, if sean is scum, probably as strong of a town read as dana is for me)
marmot (with the important note that i'm probably not a great reader of him)

some mumble jumble of nanook, tsp and jpic that i don't know what to do with, hopefully i'll have it handled by EoD, probably not

seanzie
mac

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:58 pm**

it feels a lot like marmot is a coin flip actually for me, but i had nobody to put in his spot, unfortunately

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 4:59 pm**

Why am I a coinflip?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 5:00 pm**

Why have ted and sean both offered the teammate pairing as the other one + Mac?

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 5:00 pm**

you're a tricky read for me but i'm a sucker for you coming outta nowhere with a push that feels genuine

and your iso seems mostly ok but nothing that screams too town for me, my read is mostly that your posts are fine...

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 5:01 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:00 pm Why have ted and sean both offered the teammate pairing as the other one + Mac?

i usually don't really like these types of questions

i admit my read is mostly because of mac and sean is my contending wagon lol

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 5:03 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:00 pm Why have ted and sean both offered the teammate pairing as the other one + Mac?
i usually don't really like these types of questions

i admit my read is mostly because of mac and sean is my contending wagon lol

I don't think there's anything to it other then an lol-factor. But TSP thinks you and sean are scummates, so I found that idea even funnier as a result.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 5:03 pm**

i'd really just flip mac over anyone at this point

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