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You said that she had a zillion hours, when town thought she would have had six hours at most. You also said during the night phase, when town thought the night phase would last only two hours at most. This just feels too offhanded to be anything other than a slip.
I'm sure that reading into slips will net you a fortuitous futureleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:20 pmYou said that she had a zillion hours, when town thought she would have had six hours at most. You also said during the night phase, when town thought the night phase would last only two hours at most. This just feels too offhanded to be anything other than a slip.
ive internally debated engaging with leetics methods and ultimately decided against itEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:22 pmI'm sure that reading into slips will net you a fortuitous futureleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:20 pmYou said that she had a zillion hours, when town thought she would have had six hours at most. You also said during the night phase, when town thought the night phase would last only two hours at most. This just feels too offhanded to be anything other than a slip.
Cassandra - Town meta, tried to CFD maf!JJJ 4 times during EOD and got him out.
nutella, Esooa, Dyslexicon
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:08 pm what came off as a bastardization (maybe more accurately, caricature) of your town game was the moment you claimed protective 3x in response to zero votes and nutella floating paranoia
and "95%? might as well not call it a townread at all"
felt like an extra cartoonish version of your known sensitivity to sus
tbh I just found it funny but I'm p sure that's what esooa was referring to specifically
agreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
multiple EMers always say this and it's kinda true but really their compulsion to perform well over powers the hatred of itcassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:51 pmiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:08 pm what came off as a bastardization (maybe more accurately, caricature) of your town game was the moment you claimed protective 3x in response to zero votes and nutella floating paranoia
and "95%? might as well not call it a townread at all"
felt like an extra cartoonish version of your known sensitivity to sus
tbh I just found it funny but I'm p sure that's what esooa was referring to specifically
Lol well I was half memeing on myself because I was aware my reaction was irrational but couldn't stop myself. I don't think I did much harm considering I didn't really think I'd be able to get myself through today without being tempted to claim anyway
And truthfully I do try to imitate elements of my town game as wolf, in champs I legit had my games open and mirrored some exact lines and reactions but imitating that particular part which would get me needless attention with 0 votes on me is not something I'd do. Also after champs/constellations I just really have grown to hate wolfing and don't think I'd be this invested but don't expect people to believe that. I feel entitled to townreads I guess because as wolf with literal JJJ there was 0 reason for me to do what I did eod but I think people in general just struggle to read me and I get it lmao
how am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
@falcon45ca - why should his slot resolve soon? he already fullclaimedfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:26 am [VOTE: Anne] aubergine
Voting Mac here is still silly. His slot should resolve soon, and if it doesn't then it's a wagon worth exploring. But not D2
YES!
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
Don't bring me into this. Also, Falcon is right, your town win rate is 0%. It's such a joke that you're trying to project this onto others. I thought we buried this on D1, but I guess not.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 pmNot my fault you play scummy as hell as either alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 pmIs that coming from the guy who can never get a read on me correctly?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:51 pmIt's awful reasoning.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:50 pmNo.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:46 pmWait your reasoning to scumread Anne is because she gave a town to scum list without reasoning?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:28 pmI think my favorite part was the reads list that's actually just a player list and gives no insight into your reads.
Really?
That's your reasoning?
Like dude...do better.
It is a part of my reasoning.
Have you ever considered...that it is YOUR reasoning that is perhaps the one that is awful? We've played a fair number of games together...tell me, have you been winning much?
I've been winning games, not on this site though where you got people like Axe maf siding and every town player deciding they want to do nothing every game.
the claim stuff feels like a weirdly specific thing for anne to care about, because i dont really think anyone in this game has been cleared solely on the basis of their claim beyond maybe illario/leeticanne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:16 pm So with that I say that we need to stop clearing everyone for "claims". Roles were randed before alignments in the setup so mafia could theoretically have any roles available to them. This isn't important to my point because I don't FOS anyone who has an open claim rn idt, but something to keep in mind. Second of all, I want Nutella to explain why she pushed me when I was not around and apparently continues to do so just based on my skimming? JJJ was extremely reluctant to TR me for a reason, because he knows I am town. Now if I had to guess, JJJ probably was townreading at least one of his buddies. I'd need to go back and reread his posts though to figure out exactly who he was townreading to begin with though.
I imagine Maf aren't gonna let myself or Mac run around for too longstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:56 pm@falcon45ca - why should his slot resolve soon? he already fullclaimedfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:26 am [VOTE: Anne] aubergine
Voting Mac here is still silly. His slot should resolve soon, and if it doesn't then it's a wagon worth exploring. But not D2
I have a positive winrate on MU and MafColessium as town. It's clearly not me.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:00 pmDon't bring me into this. Also, Falcon is right, your town win rate is 0%. It's such a joke that you're trying to project this onto others. I thought we buried this on D1, but I guess not.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 pmNot my fault you play scummy as hell as either alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 pmIs that coming from the guy who can never get a read on me correctly?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:51 pmIt's awful reasoning.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:50 pmNo.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:46 pmWait your reasoning to scumread Anne is because she gave a town to scum list without reasoning?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:28 pm
I think my favorite part was the reads list that's actually just a player list and gives no insight into your reads.
Really?
That's your reasoning?
Like dude...do better.
It is a part of my reasoning.
Have you ever considered...that it is YOUR reasoning that is perhaps the one that is awful? We've played a fair number of games together...tell me, have you been winning much?
I've been winning games, not on this site though where you got people like Axe maf siding and every town player deciding they want to do nothing every game.
meh i think that these posts from anne feel really Off in a way that im having a hard time articulating
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 pmI have a positive winrate on MU and MafColessium as town. It's clearly not me.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:00 pmDon't bring me into this. Also, Falcon is right, your town win rate is 0%. It's such a joke that you're trying to project this onto others. I thought we buried this on D1, but I guess not.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 pmNot my fault you play scummy as hell as either alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 pmIs that coming from the guy who can never get a read on me correctly?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:51 pmIt's awful reasoning.
Have you ever considered...that it is YOUR reasoning that is perhaps the one that is awful? We've played a fair number of games together...tell me, have you been winning much?
I've been winning games, not on this site though where you got people like Axe maf siding and every town player deciding they want to do nothing every game.
I don't think any EMers hate wolfing besides me and Brad lmaoEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 pmmultiple EMers always say this and it's kinda true but really their compulsion to perform well over powers the hatred of itcassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:51 pmiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:08 pm what came off as a bastardization (maybe more accurately, caricature) of your town game was the moment you claimed protective 3x in response to zero votes and nutella floating paranoia
and "95%? might as well not call it a townread at all"
felt like an extra cartoonish version of your known sensitivity to sus
tbh I just found it funny but I'm p sure that's what esooa was referring to specifically
Lol well I was half memeing on myself because I was aware my reaction was irrational but couldn't stop myself. I don't think I did much harm considering I didn't really think I'd be able to get myself through today without being tempted to claim anyway
And truthfully I do try to imitate elements of my town game as wolf, in champs I legit had my games open and mirrored some exact lines and reactions but imitating that particular part which would get me needless attention with 0 votes on me is not something I'd do. Also after champs/constellations I just really have grown to hate wolfing and don't think I'd be this invested but don't expect people to believe that. I feel entitled to townreads I guess because as wolf with literal JJJ there was 0 reason for me to do what I did eod but I think people in general just struggle to read me and I get it lmao
why am I town
I'm honestly shocked that you still think you can read people after your track record here. It seems that every game you fall in a void of "I don't know what's going on" and either get yeeted or die randomly because you're so blatant and one dimensional that everyone in the game has you pegged as town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 pmI have a positive winrate on MU and MafColessium as town. It's clearly not me.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:00 pmDon't bring me into this. Also, Falcon is right, your town win rate is 0%. It's such a joke that you're trying to project this onto others. I thought we buried this on D1, but I guess not.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 pmNot my fault you play scummy as hell as either alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 pmIs that coming from the guy who can never get a read on me correctly?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:51 pmIt's awful reasoning.
Have you ever considered...that it is YOUR reasoning that is perhaps the one that is awful? We've played a fair number of games together...tell me, have you been winning much?
I've been winning games, not on this site though where you got people like Axe maf siding and every town player deciding they want to do nothing every game.
ftr i promise that i would hate your point about sloonei's activity being alignment indicative for him regardless of my alignment, so don't scumread me for that. i do agree that jagged's specific interactions with sloonei could point to the esooa slot being town, but sloonei's lack of activity definitely does notilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:32 pmWell if ur town and she’s mafia ur slot is kinda one of the slots she needs in the poe for her to win but she was quick to dismiss the point that sloonei would probably have cared even a slight amount about this game if he randed scum with jjj
nutella got a lot townier on this page and im back to her just being townnutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:36 pm anne seems really awkward here like she doesn't know how to look like she has any insight or contributions to the thread lol.
the spf/mac interaction was weird, i can see that as any configuration of alignment really
i feel like spf has been pretty low key so far and i don't have a clear view on what i think of her at all
esooa... idk. i go back and forth. sloonei was p much completely nai but my gut still says wolf, and esooa has been fairly neutral in my view so far. the fact iaafr townreads her does mean something to me though, iaafr is my single beacon of sanity in this thread where everyone else is taking crazy pills and pushing the least charitable interpretations of everything i say
where was this drwilgy on d1? this is so much townier than anything he's posted before lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:34 pmFair then. I still haven't really read day 1, but it was JJJ's iso that led me to MR.
My suspicion on Nutella kept me from inquiring the CW. Anne is locktown if Nutella flips scum yes?
Mac was going to take our time regardless of if it was my shot or a yeet.
PoE is pretty straightforward:
Mac, Nutella, Dizzy, Esooa
Falcon will be added if Mac flips red. Anne will be added if Nutella flips green, NAA will be added if Esooa flips red.
Contest me on these 50/50s plz.
I don't know if we win if Ilario, Iaafr, Leetic, Marmot, SPF or Cass is scum without some mechanical savior button.
uwuEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:35 pmlol I got your intentions and motivation exactly correct in 16/8 but backed off it feelsbadmanstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:10 pmfwiw i have a habit of making pushes on unchoppable players when im a wolf because it usually makes people townread me (ie: me pushing on you in MCM, me pushing on amrock in the 16/8er), so i dont really think this is a solid reason to townread mecassandra wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pm i feel like SPF wouldn't push on nutella off the bat as scum/town because she'd be aware nutella isn't MLable. though as i say that i remember that she did the "push to pocket" approach to me before so i'm a bit more shrug about it but i still kinda gut townread that. also i liked her saying something pinged her from me but she ignored it
the best reason why im town is because my posts are boring. they work for me, and i find them fun to make, but they're usually written to aid my solving above all else, whereas my posts as a wolf are written with the intention to make other people react to them
My reads are normally accurate on here? That isn't the issue at all here.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:04 pmI'm honestly shocked that you still think you can read people after your track record here. It seems that every game you fall in a void of "I don't know what's going on" and either get yeeted or die randomly because you're so blatant and one dimensional that everyone in the game has you pegged as town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 pmI have a positive winrate on MU and MafColessium as town. It's clearly not me.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:00 pmDon't bring me into this. Also, Falcon is right, your town win rate is 0%. It's such a joke that you're trying to project this onto others. I thought we buried this on D1, but I guess not.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 pmNot my fault you play scummy as hell as either alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 pmIs that coming from the guy who can never get a read on me correctly?
Have you ever considered...that it is YOUR reasoning that is perhaps the one that is awful? We've played a fair number of games together...tell me, have you been winning much?
I've been winning games, not on this site though where you got people like Axe maf siding and every town player deciding they want to do nothing every game.
No that's what you do.
every thought has been similar, but even ignoring that... you saying i can "read you better than this" feels insincere given our historystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:13 pmlol what? am i supposed to not share observations if other people have posted similar thoughts? you can read me better than this
here's an example:Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
i feel like i would have never in a million years pictured you using phrases like: "i feel like you should be townreading me tbh" or "so what's up with that?" as either alignment - you are usually very direct and assertive as either alignment but i feel like youre choosing your words very carefully in this game in a way that pings me as stilted/nervousEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh
like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious
I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo
so what's up with that
