Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:16 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
hope you're doing ok my dude. Regardless of alignment I hope you enjoy the gameMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:10 pm I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.
Also wanna bring this upAlison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)
What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?
What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.
Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?
You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.
You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.
> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.
> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.
i love u pain med macMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:15 pm Like nobody has actually engaged me in any meaningful way. I've made a couple of light pushes and got omgussed by players that should know better than that. There seems to be no really coherent strategy to this day. The top posters are all players who aren't post count polarised so I can't base any read on that. The only empirical thing is probably that Porscha 2 posting is >rand mafia for her. Seanzie and Rondo not tilting me already might be indicative of them not being town maybe I guess? Lily and Neon seem okay? On the little I've read I would guess Sabi is more likely in their wolf meta? Lots of the scum solving going on just rings hollow or rand at best and I don't really have the energy to figure out much.
So all that to say, checks in the mail or something I'm gonna keep vibing. Where's @DrWilgy at.
This site sucks on mobile so I will see you with a response in 3000 years
I know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:16 pmI didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:12 pmwhy don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermacMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:10 pm I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.
My first reaction to this is why is Golden asking rhetorical questions that have obvious answers lolCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pmAlso wanna bring this upAlison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)
What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?
What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.
Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?
You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.
You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.
> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.
> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.
oh what this was was a "prod"?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:20 pmI know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:16 pmI didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:12 pmwhy don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermacMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:10 pm I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.
GL with your recovery though.
I literally copy-pasted it from your ISO.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:22 pmoh what this was was a "prod"?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:20 pmI know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:16 pmI didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:12 pmwhy don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermacMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:10 pm I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.
GL with your recovery though.
felt more like some sort of fart or something
i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pm @hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply
yeah i am aware of that, that's why it's a fart.. a prod would actually be something of value and you know, bother me... this just felt like you were trying to make me smell a fart and then laugh about itMarmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pmI literally copy-pasted it from your ISO.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:22 pmoh what this was was a "prod"?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:20 pmI know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:16 pmI didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:12 pmwhy don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermacMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:10 pm I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.
GL with your recovery though.
felt more like some sort of fart or something![]()
what do you classify as the wagons?lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pmi don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pm @hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply
I like their theatrical projection with some of their content output through skimming
oh okay that's cool thanks mangCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:26 pmI like their theatrical projection with some of their content output through skimming
Don't think rondo says this as mafiaRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:22 amYou are acting a little weird, but you're in your town range imho. But I am not willing to defend you yetKate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:19 amStrong suspicions? Strong, already? You're reaching. Why is that?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:13 amI have strong suspicions on Kate and would prefer to exe her first and go from there after seeing her alignSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:07 amSee, thing is, this is originally why I also was suspicious of Golden. What do you think NOW though?
I'm not acting weird for my civ game, you just don't know me.
shiteMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:26 pmwhat do you classify as the wagons?lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pmi don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pm @hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply
Towny post on principalRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:32 am @hollowkatt @falcon45ca which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?
@Party Crasher @Neon which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?
@Sabiplz @EnderWiggin which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?
@Marmot @Guillotine which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?
A long version of why I labeled EnderWiggin 3p this gameRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:26 amIll be honest, I have been mulling this over all day. If Ender is wolf he has put himself in a very difficult position. He either knows I am town and has steaked his reputation in this game on me being wolf and has to explain why he was wrong on his best read (he claims) or he has to backtrack a hard scum read as either a joke or fancy play syndrome. So either he is a wolf that has to slog through the game after eliminating me day 1 or he is town. Outside or fancy wolf play this is me humouring Mac with Ender town. I am still thinking it over myselfMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:04 am Creature
Dennis
ender
golden
iawy
sig
now humouring viable towncases on the above slots
no i mean which wagons do you classify as the ones you don't likelucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:28 pmshiteMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:26 pmwhat do you classify as the wagons?lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pmi don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pm @hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply
This might be a good post but I don't get the townreads on pyxxy otherwise. Anyone wanna explain?pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:26 pmI feel like you're doing a very light OMGUS towards nutella for her list and if you want to sit on that sr for a bit I have no problem with that but I would need to see a more convincing case against nut to earn a D1 vote especially when I feel like you're extrapolating from "I don't like how nut is reading me (possibly because you know you're town)" to "list bad nut bad"Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:19 pm I don't know how to feel about nutella putting me in poe when she hasn't tried to interact with me.
Her only reason because I made a comment about Michelle and she only jumped in it because of Rask which gives me Dena vu from the Halloween mash where she was wolfing and only kept me in poe without solving me because someone was pushing me.
Anyway throw nutella in scummy vibes
phew big sentence
@112 love meMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:32 pm Okay it begins!
I believe @112 is probably town mostly because naked voting Alison which if they were mafia and Alison were mafia would be -ev to mafia wincon and if they were mafia and Alison is town would also be -ev to mafia wincon. Also I agree with them on Hollowkatt being town.
I'm gonna townread Scotty and Cape for this and Cape will get sus of me for it.Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:23 pmyou are being rather brazen so I thought it was you tbhScotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:21 pmOdds are good. But you not identifying one and just casting a net on [1] of me, nutella and iawy actually makes me think one of those is a wolf and you are the other.Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:17 pmI am NGL I cannot tell who is the wolf within this convo, but I feel like there is one
This is not a drill
[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine
Since I townread Scotty now, you get a passMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:35 pmI'm gonna townread Scotty and Cape for this and Cape will get sus of me for it.Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:23 pmyou are being rather brazen so I thought it was you tbhScotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:21 pmOdds are good. But you not identifying one and just casting a net on [1] of me, nutella and iawy actually makes me think one of those is a wolf and you are the other.Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:17 pmI am NGL I cannot tell who is the wolf within this convo, but I feel like there is oneScotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:14 pmTake a stance. Do you think it’s scummy?
I’ll give you a question: do you think they wouldn’t have rhymed Birkenstocks and socks if they didn’t mean for them to go together?
This is not a drill
[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine
Idk but ily2 NeonNeon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:38 amWilgy have I ever told you that I love you?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:42 am Immediate vibe upon entering thread:
Voices for Alison W is interesting and of note. Validation on who has done this and why is needed.
I'm gut reading Creature as Wolfy.
Alison can you explain the Kate suspicion I just saw you voice? I will not be able to go back and find it this evening.
I'm reading ISOs, and have only really encountered him so far in his back/forth with Alison, who I'm reading now.
Busy. How's it going buddy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:15 pm Like nobody has actually engaged me in any meaningful way. I've made a couple of light pushes and got omgussed by players that should know better than that. There seems to be no really coherent strategy to this day. The top posters are all players who aren't post count polarised so I can't base any read on that. The only empirical thing is probably that Porscha 2 posting is >rand mafia for her. Seanzie and Rondo not tilting me already might be indicative of them not being town maybe I guess? Lily and Neon seem okay? On the little I've read I would guess Sabi is more likely in their wolf meta? Lots of the scum solving going on just rings hollow or rand at best and I don't really have the energy to figure out much.
So all that to say, checks in the mail or something I'm gonna keep vibing. Where's @DrWilgy at.