The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am Spirit being like I leave the game tomorrow is concerning in that it probably means we should solve them today cause I could see it as a play to survive and ignite tonight or something

This only makes sense if I’m mafia and even then, arsonist is almost always an LMS role, I wouldn’t be anywhere near getting to LMS even if we weren’t all roleblocked N2. If I was mafia then I’m assuming the host would tell you all that today is a conditional LYLO because then it could potentially be Mislynch>nightkill>ignite 3 at day start

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:34 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:19 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:59 am DM was a perpetual poe slot that wasn't getting out of poe and who's role is not that big of a loss I'd call that a pretty good shot

Except for the wolves who lost another miskill target
Also, again, why was there two kills last night?

Vig? Wolf kp?

You?

Fuck if I know

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:36 am**

9 with 2 or 3 wolves and 1 indy?

So like 6 v 2 v 1 or 5 v 3 v 1

So like...

I just think solving spirit today is the correct play always

At worst it's lylo tomorrow at best it's 5 v 2

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:36 am**

So I'm probably just never moving

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:36 am**

Sorry spirit

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:44 am**

I lost a game recently not killing a 3p when it was optimal and I just won't do that again

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:49 am**

Also random thought pyxxy claimed silenced day 2 but uhhhh nobody has been silenced since and I'm not sure I buy the ability was 2 shot i feel like it'd be 1 shot or infinite use ya?

Did a silence ability flip I've forgot about?

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:07 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:40 am Falcon hasn’t posted in over 5 days.

That’s not helpful, my good bird. @falcon45ca

I'm here...past few days have been...interesting?

Sure, let's use that word

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:25 am**

We love interesting

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:27 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:45 am I increasingly think Michelle can be wolf

Just getting that out there wheeee I won't really expand on it yet

Expand on it though, I am curious

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:30 am**

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:31 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:27 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:45 am I increasingly think Michelle can be wolf

Just getting that out there wheeee I won't really expand on it yet
Expand on it though, I am curious

Nah not yet

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:58 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:27 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:45 am I increasingly think Michelle can be wolf

Just getting that out there wheeee I won't really expand on it yet
Expand on it though, I am curious
Nah not yet

You are not allowed to not have actual thoughts about me at this moment of the game.

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:13 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:58 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:27 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:45 am I increasingly think Michelle can be wolf

Just getting that out there wheeee I won't really expand on it yet
Expand on it though, I am curious
Nah not yet
You are not allowed to not have actual thoughts about me at this moment of the game.

I'm also allowed to have thoughts and obscure them for the time being wheeee

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:13 am**

Cause I'll just target you tonight and have less to worry about

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:58 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:49 am Also random thought pyxxy claimed silenced day 2 but uhhhh nobody has been silenced since and I'm not sure I buy the ability was 2 shot i feel like it'd be 1 shot or infinite use ya?

Did a silence ability flip I've forgot about?

No silence flips

There was also the silence on LC /AND/ SVS on day 2

So we know that there is at least 1 silencer and they’re likely mafia

Someone has the ability to target a player and use their power on someone else. Or mafia have the ability to like dual use their silence ability or can choose how Many silence targets.

Hmmmm

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:58 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:49 am Also random thought pyxxy claimed silenced day 2 but uhhhh nobody has been silenced since and I'm not sure I buy the ability was 2 shot i feel like it'd be 1 shot or infinite use ya?

Did a silence ability flip I've forgot about?
No silence flips

There was also the silence on LC /AND/ SVS on day 2

So we know that there is at least 1 silencer and they’re likely mafia

Someone has the ability to target a player and use their power on someone else. Or mafia have the ability to like dual use their silence ability or can choose how Many silence targets.

Hmmmm

It was me and LC

And that was because of LCs weakness

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm**

I'm almost positive the silence has to have been 1 shot

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:01 pm**

“ Meddlesome: You can redirect someone’s target, but whatever it is also happens to you.

Needy: You will die if no one targets you at all after two consecutive Nights.”

Actually reading LC’s role actually explains a lot

About the doubled silence and him dying

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:01 pm**

I'm becoming increasingly convinced I'm playing a different mafia game than everyone else work how many times people posit incorrect things about the game as if they are fact

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm I'm almost positive the silence has to have been 1 shot

I agree, it’s too strong otherwise.

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am Spirit being like I leave the game tomorrow is concerning in that it probably means we should solve them today cause I could see it as a play to survive and ignite tonight or something
This only makes sense if I’m mafia and even then, arsonist is almost always an LMS role, I wouldn’t be anywhere near getting to LMS even if we weren’t all roleblocked N2. If I was mafia then I’m assuming the host would tell you all that today is a conditional LYLO because then it could potentially be Mislynch>nightkill>ignite 3 at day start

It is true that arsonist is usually LMS, and here we’re at a dilemma of trust. Abbi is right in that 3p’s can be dangerous to keep alive. You came out with minimal pressure that you were 3p and that was your prerogative. But that doesn’t mean we can trust you.

Hypothetical: let’s say you are the arsonist but admitting you are this other harmless role.
You say you targeted tsp and falcon. Ok. Falcon lives, 3 more people die tomorrow, you could technically win as the
Other role. But you aren’t removed! Oh gosh darn it, don’t ya know, you say you targeted abbi, who died in the night. Oh well! Guys, you gotta trust me, my win con is almost there. Then in the night you blow everyone up and win.

All that to say, it’s super easy to skate by with this role.

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm**

Anyways I think pyxxy is lying but I'm not like convinced

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:58 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:49 am Also random thought pyxxy claimed silenced day 2 but uhhhh nobody has been silenced since and I'm not sure I buy the ability was 2 shot i feel like it'd be 1 shot or infinite use ya?

Did a silence ability flip I've forgot about?
No silence flips

There was also the silence on LC /AND/ SVS on day 2

So we know that there is at least 1 silencer and they’re likely mafia

Someone has the ability to target a player and use their power on someone else. Or mafia have the ability to like dual use their silence ability or can choose how Many silence targets.

Hmmmm
It was me and LC

And that was because of LCs weakness

Sorry that’s right, SVS was on the poll

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:03 pm**

But spirit today

Pls I beg you

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:03 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:40 am Falcon hasn’t posted in over 5 days.

That’s not helpful, my good bird. @falcon45ca
I'm here...past few days have been...interesting?

Sure, let's use that word

Cool cool cool. About the game, do you have any….thoughts?

Sure, let’s use that word.

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:04 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am Spirit being like I leave the game tomorrow is concerning in that it probably means we should solve them today cause I could see it as a play to survive and ignite tonight or something
This only makes sense if I’m mafia and even then, arsonist is almost always an LMS role, I wouldn’t be anywhere near getting to LMS even if we weren’t all roleblocked N2. If I was mafia then I’m assuming the host would tell you all that today is a conditional LYLO because then it could potentially be Mislynch>nightkill>ignite 3 at day start
It is true that arsonist is usually LMS, and here we’re at a dilemma of trust. Abbi is right in that 3p’s can be dangerous to keep alive. You came out with minimal pressure that you were 3p and that was your prerogative. But that doesn’t mean we can trust you.

Hypothetical: let’s say you are the arsonist but admitting you are this other harmless role.
You say you targeted tsp and falcon. Ok. Falcon lives, 3 more people die tomorrow, you could technically win as the
Other role. But you aren’t removed! Oh gosh darn it, don’t ya know, you say you targeted abbi, who died in the night. Oh well! Guys, you gotta trust me, my win con is almost there. Then in the night you blow everyone up and win.

All that to say, it’s super easy to skate by with this role.

Honestly if an ignition went off though I feel I’m instantly out, and if I get to final 3 then it’s just kingmaker isn’t it?

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:04 pm**

Or well, no I guess if it’s final 3 and I haven’t been removed yet, that’d be seriously unlucky

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:05 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:03 pm But spirit today

Pls I beg you

I’m so close to getting my victory please don’t. I will literally be out of your hair soon

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:06 pm**

Last time I heard that I lost... I'm sorry but I simply can not

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:06 pm**

You always solve 3P claims

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:09 pm**

And by “solve” you mean vote out right?

I think we still run into the same problem as last time I’ve been on chopping block (and what I literally said earlier)

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:09 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:13 am Also, I think we’re at the point in the game where mafia can start considering: “do we try and get the 3P player out to reduce overall numbers or do we keep them alive to leave the game and lower numbers”

Literally this

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:11 pm**

I displayed the math earlier you being solved today harms town exactly 0

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:11 pm**

Like it goes one of two ways Abby, you guys vote me out, we lose another town player in Scotty/yourself, and then now we still gotta solve for who’s who

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:12 pm**

I'm sorry but I'm keeping my vote on you

Also I'll just claim my vote is worth 3 today

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:12 pm**

5v2 puts town at one day to solve sure

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:12 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:12 pm I'm sorry but I'm keeping my vote on you

Also I'll just claim my vote is worth 3 today

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:13 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am Spirit being like I leave the game tomorrow is concerning in that it probably means we should solve them today cause I could see it as a play to survive and ignite tonight or something
This only makes sense if I’m mafia and even then, arsonist is almost always an LMS role, I wouldn’t be anywhere near getting to LMS even if we weren’t all roleblocked N2. If I was mafia then I’m assuming the host would tell you all that today is a conditional LYLO because then it could potentially be Mislynch>nightkill>ignite 3 at day start
It is true that arsonist is usually LMS, and here we’re at a dilemma of trust. Abbi is right in that 3p’s can be dangerous to keep alive. You came out with minimal pressure that you were 3p and that was your prerogative. But that doesn’t mean we can trust you.

Hypothetical: let’s say you are the arsonist but admitting you are this other harmless role.
You say you targeted tsp and falcon. Ok. Falcon lives, 3 more people die tomorrow, you could technically win as the
Other role. But you aren’t removed! Oh gosh darn it, don’t ya know, you say you targeted abbi, who died in the night. Oh well! Guys, you gotta trust me, my win con is almost there. Then in the night you blow everyone up and win.

All that to say, it’s super easy to skate by with this role.
Honestly if an ignition went off though I feel I’m instantly out, and if I get to final 3 then it’s just kingmaker isn’t it?

Hypothetically:
If you marked correctly and have been lying about your targets, you could have 3 used actions (as n2 was out):
Day 5: miskill, 7 v you
N5: mark 4th, 6 v you -
D6: “oops, my target died yall, I’ll be out of your hair soon” yeet, 5 v you.
N6: ignite. Win

I will admit, you need to have marked correctly all 4 times in players still alive, and even then this is all assuming you are straight up this role. Which also is a long shot. We don’t know what alternative 3p powers Epi would throw in. Maaaybe we’d be ok not yeeting you today.

It’s just bizarre to me that Epi would make 2 3p roles that essentially do the same thing, as Lime Coke’s was ‘weight out (pun intended) players until you achieve wincon’

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:13 pm**

Correct and a miskill is implicitly dangerous at this stage if the game with you alive

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:14 pm**

I'd appreciate if people voted with me but meh is not super important if they do

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:14 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:13 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:02 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:28 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am Spirit being like I leave the game tomorrow is concerning in that it probably means we should solve them today cause I could see it as a play to survive and ignite tonight or something
This only makes sense if I’m mafia and even then, arsonist is almost always an LMS role, I wouldn’t be anywhere near getting to LMS even if we weren’t all roleblocked N2. If I was mafia then I’m assuming the host would tell you all that today is a conditional LYLO because then it could potentially be Mislynch>nightkill>ignite 3 at day start
It is true that arsonist is usually LMS, and here we’re at a dilemma of trust. Abbi is right in that 3p’s can be dangerous to keep alive. You came out with minimal pressure that you were 3p and that was your prerogative. But that doesn’t mean we can trust you.

Hypothetical: let’s say you are the arsonist but admitting you are this other harmless role.
You say you targeted tsp and falcon. Ok. Falcon lives, 3 more people die tomorrow, you could technically win as the
Other role. But you aren’t removed! Oh gosh darn it, don’t ya know, you say you targeted abbi, who died in the night. Oh well! Guys, you gotta trust me, my win con is almost there. Then in the night you blow everyone up and win.

All that to say, it’s super easy to skate by with this role.
Honestly if an ignition went off though I feel I’m instantly out, and if I get to final 3 then it’s just kingmaker isn’t it?
Hypothetically:
If you marked correctly and have been lying about your targets, you could have 3 used actions (as n2 was out):
Day 5: miskill, 7 v you
N5: mark 4th, 6 v you -
D6: “oops, my target died yall, I’ll be out of your hair soon” yeet, 5 v you.
N6: ignite. Win

I will admit, you need to have marked correctly all 4 times in players still alive, and even then this is all assuming you are straight up this role. Which also is a long shot. We don’t know what alternative 3p powers Epi would throw in. Maaaybe we’d be ok not yeeting you today.

It’s just bizarre to me that Epi would make 2 3p roles that essentially do the same thing, as Lime Coke’s was ‘weight out (pun intended) players until you achieve wincon’

The difference being though lime coke can still win even after he’s dead

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:17 pm**

Enough about me and hypotheticals. If I’m going out I want to at least do more vote speculation

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:20 pm**

Wolves almost certainly didn't target DM yeah?

I have a theory but it requires me to admit i lied about something lol

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:20 pm**

And it's like probably unlikely?

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:20 pm**

Actually no it's extremely unlikely

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:20 pm**

Meh ignore me

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:30 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:40 am Falcon hasn’t posted in over 5 days.

That’s not helpful, my good bird. @falcon45ca
I'm here...past few days have been...interesting?

Sure, let's use that word
Cool cool cool. About the game, do you have any….thoughts?

Sure, let’s use that word.

Yes

My tin-foil W! is still alive...and that perplexes me cuz' of raisins

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:31 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:20 pm Meh ignore me

Nah

What's on your mind?

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:31 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:06 am
Spoiler: show
Who's first?

DarlingMonroe

Voters: sprityo

Lime Coke

Voters: S~V~S, TonyStarkPrime, Long Con, Michelle

Michelle

Voters: DrWilgy

Porscha

Voters: falcon45ca

☆Princess Abigail☆

Voters: pyxxy

Roxy

Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, Cape90, Scotty

Sig

Voters: Thunal33

sprityo

Voters: Roxy

Not voting:

porscha, sig, darlingMonroe, Lime Coke, Daisy/Nutella

EOD1 with reveals

Spoiler: show

pyxxy

Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Porscha, S~V~S, Michelle

Roxy

Voters: Scotty, Cape90, pyxxy, nutella, sprityo, Thunal33

Thunal33

Voters: DrWilgy, sig, falcon45ca, Roxy

Not Voting: darlingMonroe, LongCon, PrincessAbigail
EOD2

Spoiler: show

nutella

Voters: DarlingMonroe, Thunal33, Long Con, Michelle, Scotty, Cape90, S~V~S, DrWilgy

sprityo

Voters: falcon45ca, sig, nutella, sprityo

Thunal33

Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆

Not Voting: Pyxxy, Sig
EOD3

Spoiler: show
Water you going to do?

DarlingMonroe

Voters: Long Con

☆Princess Abigail☆

Voters: pyxxy
Sig

Voters: DarlingMonroe, Michelle, Thunal33, ☆Princess Abigail☆, Cape90, Scotty

sprityo

Voters: DrWilgy, Porscha

Not Voting: Sprityo, Sig, Falcon
EOD4

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