The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

Mongoose wrote:Effective immediately, A Person is replacing Sabie.

He is immune from the Day 6 lynch and Night 6 actions.

Oh good, I'll make it through a lynch this time. :P

Hi again.

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Interesting development, so far. I re-read TH the other night...

Long Con wrote:I don't like following suspicions that sound good anymore. All it has done for me is lead me to lynch Civvies. I might have to vote for Spacedaisy today, because I don't suspect her.

Interesting 180 there, LC.

Interesting.

Intriguing?

Long Con wrote:Yes, it was to spotlight your double-use of the word "Interesting". There are some baddie tells in the language people use, and I have seen it before that a baddie will call something "interesting" without qualifying it much more, so that word has become a trigger word for my ping-o-meter, much like the overuse of adverbs.

OK, Epignosis

Black Rock wrote:
Although I do suspect you I wouldn't mind a MM lynch today. He's been falling through the cracks for much too long.

Same tbh

Though, I want to do some extra reading-- I feel like I haven't been reading closely enough lately because of my schedule.

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Ricochet wrote:

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Yes, but what are you trying to say, specifically about Turnip Head in that post?

Well I voted for MetalMarsh. TH has me questioning which side he's on and I am wavering with him.

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Yes, but what are you trying to say, specifically about Turnip Head in that post?

That he keeps doing it, despite ill-advised circumstances.

I do not understand the case on MM. At all.
I did a full readthrough of all 7 pages (superstar!) of his posts a few nights ago and could find absolutely nothing that made me think he was anything other than a civ trying to figure stuff out. I don't have a particularly long history with MM, so maybe I just don't know what his baddie game looks like, but I found nothing in his post record that struck me as baddie behaviour: no attempting to hide in the shadows, no fear of rocking the boat or drawing attention to himself, no frivolous leaps onto lynch trains once they began pulling out of the station (or at least not any more frivolous than anyone else).
I feel like this is a case where his name has been casually floated for long enough and "linked" to enough other subjects of discussion that he's become suspicious simply by being mentioned a lot. For anyone who feels inclined to, please show me where I'm going wrong in my read of him!

I am going to vote for TH. I trust BWT, and "dismissive" as BR said earlier in the game sums him up for me.

I, too, shall vote for my valiant and cute-as-a-button friend TH. I'm sorry if I've been wrong all along, but I don't like the looks of the late surge towards MM that seems to be brewing.

But see, I don't see it as a "late surge"; people have been mentioning him for days & days (and NOT just me, as he seems to imply). I felt the lynch was going to go in his direction the day we lynched Made, until TH came in with his case.

At this stage he seems to be angry with me for playing my game like I always play it. So (and I like this shrug, I don't see any bad context in it)

I am sorry to constantly make excuses but I am so sorry to Mongoose and the other players.

I have a free day tomorrow and will catch up proper (not just the last page) then and will give my thoughts and perspective.

I see it is MM or TH. MM has been riding me hard as well as TH though MM much longer even so I feel his heart is in the right place but he is just wrong about me. That said I went with TH, I am honestly trusting a couple of people this game so I will follow their cue.

Ricochet wrote:

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Like what? I'm confused with Dom. I feel like you just listed reasons why he might not be suspicious vs. reasons he might be.

I have to decide now because sleep. This is quite a hard poll for me, because it makes me choose between joining one of the current trains or being consistent with my suspicions, the problem being that I still don't feel strongly about the former and the latter are nowhere on the radar for everyone else right now.

I don't think I'll vote TH, because I only have pinges from today's discussions and they don't even relate much to the original charges on him, but only to him reacting more erratic to the whole situation. As for the original charges, I understand how BWT built his case, but I can't fully endorse TH standing out from others based on his votes alone. His case-making was more mildly brought up, yet I see more consistency and longevity in his case on Made than others. Re: MM, I'm not reading anything out of ordinary from his D6 posts; as for D5, he was indeed on many players' "re-read" lists, but it's hard to say how many would have converted those to votes: he had received none by the time of the lockdown, Made switch withstanding or not. He's active and butt-heading with many, receiving, I'd say, a normal dose of attention or suspicions for it afterwards.

As for sticking to my suspicion, I gave another name in my post about TH and that was BR. Don't like much of her game at all and my gut tells me that, now that Sabie and Lizzy have been replaced with players we can expect to be active, she might be a strong low poster baddie candidate, not saying much into discussion, not putting much reasons into votes, not eager to give explanations after. I'd like to validate such a suspicion with a vote today and maybe draw more opinions on it the following days.

Hello friends! I'll catch up either tonight or tomorrow morning. For now, voting A Person.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Like what? I'm confused with Dom. I feel like you just listed reasons why he might not be suspicious vs. reasons he might be.

I haven't, he has made himself suspicious for all those reasons, to others and myself, throughout this entire day. This is simply yet another instance I couldn't help not notice.

May I also point out that Dom voted TH for speculating so much and now is acting confused that I questioned yet another speculation of TH's?

Goodbye cruel world, to the Zombie Bar I go

I think with how long it took before you gave up, TH (read: not very), that I have nothing to worry about from the result of this lynch.

Ricochet wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:AP was lynched on like Day 1 and sabie hasn't played all game. AP has been following along it seems. Anyone else think the timing of this replacement is strange? Why now?

You have a real knack for these theories.

What does that mean?

Meaning very weird interpretations of events, roles, powers that have already given pause to a few players.

Welcome back, Made!

Like what? I'm confused with Dom. I feel like you just listed reasons why he might not be suspicious vs. reasons he might be.

I haven't, he has made himself suspicious for all those reasons, to others and myself, throughout this entire day. This is simply yet another instance I couldn't help not notice.

May I also point out that Dom voted TH for speculating so much and now is acting confused that I questioned yet another speculation of TH's?

I found your wording strange, vague, and unspecific.

I think Canuck may have purposely misinterpreted a role at the beginning of the game, just conjecture on my part. Keep your eye on her, civvies! Maybe with the inactives being replaced, we still have a chance!

Well not me. I'm dead soon

S~V~S wrote:But see, I don't see it as a "late surge"; people have been mentioning him for days & days (and NOT just me, as he seems to imply). I felt the lynch was going to go in his direction the day we lynched Made, until TH came in with his case.

At this stage he seems to be angry with me for playing my game like I always play it. So (and I like this shrug, I don't see any bad context in it)

You always play the way you just accused TH for being?

S~V~S wrote:I am going to vote for TH. I trust BWT, and "dismissive" as BR said earlier in the game sums him up for me.

Mongoose wrote:Day 6: Even Rocky Had a Montage

Turnip Head has died. He was John Waters.

You have 20 hours to send in your night actions.

WTF! I don't even know anymore...

I'm really sorry TH. I thought BWT had something there, and I really thought your Emmerich post was a slip.

@SVS, this is the third time this game you have said you think I'm bad, but you've voted someone you think is 'my partner' instead to try to prove 'my baddiness' (and they've all flipped civ). First AP, than Made 1.0, and now TH. Explain yourself.

Another day, another Civvie lynched.

Also, welcome back AP and Made.

RIP TH.

After catching I have realized that we should ALL re-evaluate our suspicions and thoughts. I know I was feeling dejected inre: to my own suspicions especially after Made1.0 was civ. With that in mind a few thoughts on everyone left.


Bebass - I am reading you as civ this game though you has stuck by his MM suspicion for days. I did agree with it a a day or so ago and I am even more sure how I feel about him (MM) now (see below) I feel like I can semi trust you.

Teeth - I know I can trust you.

BR - I wanted to trust you since the beginning but now I find myself wavering slightly. The thing about your posts that gives me pause is that you quote these quotes and then throw out a sentence(s) or a few words and it *seems* like you are indeed giving thoughts. I had not noticed until I went back and just read you. I also noted that you were one of the first people to drive home the point about a poss slip by TH yesterday. Though you questioned it more than once, and did seem to find it quite suspicious, you voted for MM even though *I* have been the only suspicion she has carried for more than a day. So you went from me to TH to MM. Way to cover your bases depending on how the tide was turning.

Canuck - More often than not I have found myself agreeing with you.

DF - I feel like you are playing a normal DF type of game. I read your posts as genuinely trying, especially this last round when you were questioning LC bc of llama's death. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on Dom, MM and me when you finish your reading. I also wonder if you still find yourself suspicious of LC? I find myself feeling trusty of LC and you so I would like to know why you do and do not find him suspicious.

Dom - I am feeling more trust than distrust at this time.

Lizzy/Made 2.0 - I was not trusting Lizzy since the beginning of this game. The few posts she made reminded me of her WIFOM Baddie play style. But since I was so wrong about you (Made1.0) I am gun shy about pushing Lizzy/Made2.0. I feel ok about letting you get back in the game and get caught up again before I decide how I ultimately feel about you.

LC - I see your wife has defended you as being civ more than once this game - how do you feel about that? How do you feel about her this game? I noticed you stayed out of the MM/TH lynch stuff yesterday and focused yourself on DF. Do you still feel the same about him as yesterday? Do you really think that DF would kill llama then be the first to bring it up - "gee llama is dead lets lynch LC" with that kind of talk? Do you think he is using wifom as a basis of doing this? Listen I was trusting you this game and I kind of trust DF so I would like to hear your thoughts about him since yesterday.

MM - I do not like how you are so dismissive to Bass about his suspicion of you. I also did not like how you are suspicious of me. It seems the "case" on me from you is based on my vote for AP and bc I was potentially saving Vomps. You, ofc, took it way out of context to make me look bad. If anyone was to go back and read AP up until his lynch they would understand why I voted the way I did. Sure at first he seemed normal but his vote, the timing and his lack of anything was totes out of character (even for him) and it really threw me for a loop and, in my mind, justified a vote for him. You also say I compared it to one of your votes and asked you why you were going to conform - well I wanted to know your reasoning as you had defended Vomps where as I did not really defend AP.

I think your other thing is wanting me to out myself or info and explain exactly why I was not lynched. Well do not hold your breath bc I will not be explaining that until end game. So you have made this big expansive deal about me over one vote and bc I won't directly out info to you? LOL ok. I am good with that.

One more thing you said I was giving you "no-u reactions to my suspicions" - quote please - I did not see any instances of this.
You are now back at the top of my list.

Rico - I have been very impressed with your style your first game. You seemed to try and give thoughts on everything that happens. I still say you have had a coach I am beginning to think you are being coached by a civ. Ofc I could be wrong but you genuinely seem to be wanting to try a baddie hunt as best you can being a nub.

sabie/AP 2.0 - I have absolutely zero opinion on sabie as she has barely been here. I think I take a wait and see approach here.

Daisy - Same as sabie. I really have no opinion on Daisy. The few posts she has I feel ok about - I would love to hear more from her.

SVS - I am having good feels where you are concerned. I think MM has been trying to push your buttons and his suspicion of you for days now and you are handling it way better than I would/could have. I do agree with quite a bit of what you say. I do think you were wrong when you said you though that MM was giving TH a platform, I also thought he (MM) was pushing TH's buttons as well. You noting that MM had gone back to check how much he had interacted with TH was a good catch imo. Why would any civ give a care how much they had interacted with any one player? They wouldn't. MM did care to note it. Do you still consider MM your top suspect?

Thats what I got and what I have time to give. Again so sorry it took so long but thanks for your amazing patience.

Fing hell. I give up, I throw my hands into the air.

This is ridiculous. Shouldn't we have lynched a baddie by accident by now?

For TH - *hangs myself*

I voted for the only one I've seen. : /

Also I voted Goodfellas as they use my favorite word the most in that film - plus it is quite an amazing movie. I probs would have liked Gangs better than I do but Decaprio is in it - so there ya go.

Nice analysis Roxy. I'm pretty neutral on BR at this time, really.

I've been on and off about Metalmarsh all game, but more to the 'on' side. As in I think he's bad right now. I feel like I'm walking in a minefield full of Civvies.

I still suspect DFaraday for the Llama-LC thing, maybe I'll just try to find time for a reread of him and see if he conforms to what I think a smart baddie would do.

Surely one baddie team has killed at least one baddie from the other team. At least one. Maybe they've killed all baddies! Imagine seeing the Civs on the verge of victory after lynching only Civs. It would be one for the record books.

Not likely what we're actually dealing with though.

I guess FZ or maybe even timmer could have been baddies, but I doubt FZ was.

Mongoose: Will we be told if a baddie team is eliminated?

Also, what happens in the case of a lynch tie?

^EBWOP, I doubt llama was.

No way llama was a baddie.
I would lay odds that Timmer was.

Just one gals opinion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Mongoose: Will we be told if a baddie team is eliminated?

Nope

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Also, what happens in the case of a lynch tie?

My host policy on ties: no one dies.

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Sorry, I don't have the bandwidth to be watching whole movies online. Also sorry I couldn't participate in the Birdman contest; I started listening to the interview, but I had to keep pausing to do things, and I never got back to it. Too busy, I guess, I hope you got some good entries! Also, it felt suspiciously like a school assignment of some sort.

Love all his movies, but those are my favorites.

For f*k's sake! I see how I could have goofed up now. Oh well. RIP TH! Sorry I was totally wrong about you!

I need to start completely over in terms of how I think about everyone. Because clearly, even when I thought I had something, I wasn't right.

Black Rock wrote:Fing hell. I give up, I throw my hands into the air.

This is ridiculous. Shouldn't we have lynched a baddie by accident by now?

For TH - *hangs myself*

This.

And for future reference MM, you will get better results from me (and people in general) if you refrain from talking to me like you're my Dad. He can say to me, "Explain yourself". You, not so much. In each circumstance, the other person had more lynch support, so I did not want to split anything. That post was the last I read, after reading it I decided to go AFK for a day. Considered asking for a replacement for being such a fail, but since I am not the only one

Long Con wrote:Sorry, I don't have the bandwidth to be watching whole movies online. Also sorry I couldn't participate in the Birdman contest; I started listening to the interview, but I had to keep pausing to do things, and I never got back to it. Too busy, I guess, I hope you got some good entries! Also, it felt suspiciously like a school assignment of some sort.

Don't worry, the movies, videos and event/contests are all extremely optional!

Maybe I'm moonlighting as a teacher...

S~V~S wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Fing hell. I give up, I throw my hands into the air.

This is ridiculous. Shouldn't we have lynched a baddie by accident by now?

For TH - *hangs myself*

This.

And for future reference MM, you will get better results from me (and people in general) if you refrain from talking to me like you're my Dad. He can say to me, "Explain yourself". You, not so much. In each circumstance, the other person had more lynch support, so I did not want to split anything. That post was the last I read, after reading it I decided to go AFK for a day. Considered asking for a replacement for being such a fail, but since I am not the only one

I am not angry with you. I am just generally frustrated with this game. I feel like I'm being played the fool, since people keep waffling back and forth on me, and as a result, not giving my reads a fair shake. You just happened to be the only player responding to me directly.

It doesn't change my mind about you though, but I feel like I'm at least giving your thoughts a chance, sometimes.