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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:03 pm
by Epignosis
Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?
Bitch fuckin' robbed my ass.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:04 pm
by Turnip Head
Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?
I was demonstrating that anything can happen with the items. Maybe DP has the elephant charm, maybe he doesn't even have it anymore, and that could mean any number of things have happened. I didn't expect to end up with the bottle last night, but that's what I got. I'd rather not talk about how I came upon it. But I didn't think DP was bad because of what was in the newspaper, and some people did think that, and so I've been interested to see how discussion has gone since then.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:13 pm
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?
I was demonstrating that anything can happen with the items. Maybe DP has the elephant charm, maybe he doesn't even have it anymore, and that could mean any number of things have happened. I didn't expect to end up with the bottle last night, but that's what I got. I'd rather not talk about how I came upon it. But I didn't think DP was bad because of what was in the newspaper, and some people did think that, and so I've been interested to see how discussion has gone since then.
A couple things I want to note then.

I agree with you that "anything can happen", but I will still take that with a grain of salt. On one hand, I may or may not have switched roles when I entered the game. On the other hand, I can also attest that I still have the skull that A Person began the game with, so that item hasn't moved. :shrug:

You originally said you ended up with the bottle, and you don't know who you got from. Also, you say that you'd rather not talk about how you came upon it. Why bring it up in the first place?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:14 pm
by Dom
Th do you want to comment on the timing of DP's vote in the last vote or are you going to continue grandstanding about items?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:16 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?
Bitch fuckin' robbed my ass.
I see. So a guilty conscience did him in?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:17 pm
by Turnip Head
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You originally said you ended up with the bottle, and you don't know who you got from. Also, you say that you'd rather not talk about how you came upon it. Why bring it up in the first place?
I already said why I brought it up.
Dom wrote:Th do you want to comment on the timing of DP's vote in the last vote or are you going to continue grandstanding about items?
I'm not grandstanding. And I mentioned earlier that Vomps could just as well have been a baddie as Zomba was. Zomba did not vote for Vompatti, she voted for AP. I think Zomba's teammates can likely be found on both sides of that lynch. But DP's explanation for his Vomps vote was satisfactory for me, I guess. I was thinking she sounded sincere too before she hanged.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:19 pm
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You originally said you ended up with the bottle, and you don't know who you got from. Also, you say that you'd rather not talk about how you came upon it. Why bring it up in the first place?
I already said why I brought it up.
You brought it up as a defense of DP?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:20 pm
by Epignosis
Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:21 pm
by Turnip Head
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:23 pm
by Turnip Head
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You originally said you ended up with the bottle, and you don't know who you got from. Also, you say that you'd rather not talk about how you came upon it. Why bring it up in the first place?
I already said why I brought it up.
You brought it up as a defense of DP?
Yes MM. I thought he was gaining undue heat for what the paper said about him. For all we know, what was in the paper could be a red herring. If I think an unfair bandwagin is forming, I'm going to intervene.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:23 pm
by Epignosis
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:25 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
SVS is all out of cookies.

Linki: Then who do you think we should lynch TH, if not DP or you?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:28 pm
by Elohcin
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
I'm paying attention. Its just all a bit over my head. :faint:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:29 pm
by Epignosis
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
I'm paying attention. Its just all a bit over my head. :faint:
At 5'1", that's not at all surprising.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:32 pm
by Dom
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You originally said you ended up with the bottle, and you don't know who you got from. Also, you say that you'd rather not talk about how you came upon it. Why bring it up in the first place?
I already said why I brought it up.
Dom wrote:Th do you want to comment on the timing of DP's vote in the last vote or are you going to continue grandstanding about items?
I'm not grandstanding. And I mentioned earlier that Vomps could just as well have been a baddie as Zomba was. Zomba did not vote for Vompatti, she voted for AP. I think Zomba's teammates can likely be found on both sides of that lynch. But DP's explanation for his Vomps vote was satisfactory for me, I guess. I was thinking she sounded sincere too before she hanged.
While that's fine, I feel like you're pushing this idea that any suspicion of DP is solely based on hearsay from the NP about items. His vote was oddly timed, and TBH that pings me.

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:33 pm
by Turnip Head
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?
I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:34 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:35 pm
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?
I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
I have certainly executed that strategy before (on BWT in Monopoly), and I can say that it works wonders.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:38 pm
by Epignosis
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?
I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
I ask you this because I think Dom is being a politician.
Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:Dom, the one thing I keep coming back to about SVS, it will be interesting to get your thoughts on this...

If she was bad, why come out and be the first one to have the theory that she was supposed to die, she still had the will, lol the baddies failed to kill her and therefore the story in the newspaper must be a fake? After all, that is how most of the heat on zombs started?

Why not just come out and go... yeah, the will was stolen...

Seems like a very odd baddie plot to put a story in the newspaper that appears to clear Zombs, then immediately start going after her in the thread. Not to mention, no-one else has claimed any reason for why there might not have been a NK.
I don't entirely disagree with you. I won't be funning for SVS this next lynch-- unless something drastic happens. It does give me pause about her, though.
Golden's dead.

Now read Dom's response a time or two.

"I don't entirely disagree with you."

That's politician-speak, folks.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:39 pm
by Elohcin
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:40 pm
by Golden
Who is handing out stars? Can I hand out stars? I've got nothing else to do.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:40 pm
by thellama73
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!
Not from me, you don't.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:42 pm
by Epignosis
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!
Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute. :disappoint:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:43 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!
Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute. :disappoint:
You've already done that to yourself in the speakeasy.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:44 pm
by Epignosis
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!
Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute. :disappoint:
You've already done that to yourself in the speakeasy.
No, you fail at Robocop.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:45 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
Four more and you get a dollar!
Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute. :disappoint:
You've already done that to yourself in the speakeasy.
No, you fail at Robocop.
I didn't know I was being graded. :shrug:

At least I know who Jon Anderson is.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:54 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote:
Zombarella wrote:Today it would be cool to hear more from:

Shep, Bea, A Person, MP, Liz Keen, Sophie, and Eloh.

I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. :shrug:
Sophie?
Really?
:eye: :eye: :eye: :eye:
Zombarella didn't say she suspected Sophie, only that she wanted to hear more from her (as well a hundred other people).

And Dom dropped four eyes on her.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:58 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis, why did you want to lynch MM 1.0?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:02 pm
by Epignosis
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, why did you want to lynch MM 1.0?
Because fuck you.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:06 pm
by Epignosis
I'm sorry, MetalMarsh89. That wasn't very nice of me.

The reason I voted for you on Day 2 was that I thought you were the Millionaire, and therefore a threat to me. I believed you were using your self-voting tactic to secure yourself a spot in the next Day without garnering much scrutiny. I believed you and Long Con were teammates. I believed you might have killed Black Rock, even though I presented the idea initially as a joke.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:09 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:I'm sorry, MetalMarsh89. That wasn't very nice of me.

The reason I voted for you on Day 2 was that I thought you were the Millionaire, and therefore a threat to me. I believed you were using your self-voting tactic to secure yourself a spot in the next Day without garnering much scrutiny. I believed you and Long Con were teammates. I believed you might have killed Black Rock, even though I presented the idea initially as a joke.
Ha, no kidding. :eek:

Yes, I went back to look and I know you wanted me lynched, but noticed that you never said why. Thank you for an answer.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:15 pm
by Sophie
Well, splints, i agree with you that im not behaving civvie, though i am.

But the dfaraday thing holds no water, imo. If i were baddie and df my teammate, why would i ask only his opinion on thread? Would i be that stupid? I mean, i honestly think theres no way you really think i would be that stupid

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:16 pm
by Dom
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?
I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
No?
Because I didn't vote against a baddie?
Your theory requires that I voted to sink a teammate. Mine does not require that of someone.

Sophie is someone I have no real read on, tbh. I would need to do some reading. Vompatti? I don't know why people think he's bad. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's bad yet.
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!
Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out. :shrug:
But you will get a star and everyone else will get a big F because they just aren't as wonderful as you are!
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.
Yeah...
My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?
I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
I ask you this because I think Dom is being a politician.
Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:Dom, the one thing I keep coming back to about SVS, it will be interesting to get your thoughts on this...

If she was bad, why come out and be the first one to have the theory that she was supposed to die, she still had the will, lol the baddies failed to kill her and therefore the story in the newspaper must be a fake? After all, that is how most of the heat on zombs started?

Why not just come out and go... yeah, the will was stolen...

Seems like a very odd baddie plot to put a story in the newspaper that appears to clear Zombs, then immediately start going after her in the thread. Not to mention, no-one else has claimed any reason for why there might not have been a NK.
I don't entirely disagree with you. I won't be funning for SVS this next lynch-- unless something drastic happens. It does give me pause about her, though.
Golden's dead.

Now read Dom's response a time or two.

"I don't entirely disagree with you."

That's politician-speak, folks.
Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Zombarella wrote:Today it would be cool to hear more from:

Shep, Bea, A Person, MP, Liz Keen, Sophie, and Eloh.

I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. :shrug:
Sophie?
Really?
:eye: :eye: :eye: :eye:
Zombarella didn't say she suspected Sophie, only that she wanted to hear more from her (as well a hundred other people).

And Dom dropped four eyes on her.
Yup.

Because sophie had JUST replaced in and Zombz implied that she wasn't speaking enough.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:18 pm
by Sophie
And, eventhough i have to agree with fs and juliets that im not behaving like i do when im civvie, the truth is i am civvie.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:37 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:40 pm
by Turnip Head
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
No?
Because I didn't vote against a baddie?
Your theory requires that I voted to sink a teammate. Mine does not require that of someone.

Sophie is someone I have no real read on, tbh. I would need to do some reading. Vompatti? I don't know why people think he's bad. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's bad yet.
I didn't say your vote was odd because you didn't vote against a baddie. I said that baddies think a lot about distancing. Look at Zomba's vote for AP; she didn't even wait herself to see which way the wind was blowing, what makes you think her teammates voted to save her if she didn't vote to save herself? Her vote is a strong indication to me that the baddies had already decided to throw Zomba under the bus. At the time, it looked like it could have been civvie desperation, but now it's clearly baddie exasperation. As such, I don't want to read too much into the Vomps voters when I think there's just as many baddies if not more hiding in the Zomba voters, and we still don't know Vomps' allegiance.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:49 pm
by thellama73
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Hey, I said I was sorry about that.

And to the best of my knowledge, I haven't screwed up this game... yet.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:54 pm
by Dom
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Again, you are throwing a term that is supposed to mean something bad, but does not inherently mean something bad.
Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P
No?
Because I didn't vote against a baddie?
Your theory requires that I voted to sink a teammate. Mine does not require that of someone.

Sophie is someone I have no real read on, tbh. I would need to do some reading. Vompatti? I don't know why people think he's bad. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's bad yet.
I didn't say your vote was odd because you didn't vote against a baddie. I said that baddies think a lot about distancing. Look at Zomba's vote for AP; she didn't even wait herself to see which way the wind was blowing, what makes you think her teammates voted to save her if she didn't vote to save herself? Her vote is a strong indication to me that the baddies had already decided to throw Zomba under the bus. At the time, it looked like it could have been civvie desperation, but now it's clearly baddie exasperation. As such, I don't want to read too much into the Vomps voters when I think there's just as many baddies if not more hiding in the Zomba voters, and we still don't know Vomps' allegiance.
I think her behavior throughout the game was a strong indicator that she wasn't on the same page as her team.
Was there distancing in that poll? Probably.
However, your "theory" (it's not a formal theory, you're throwing it out there for speculation's sake-- I think) requires an assumption that I voted for my own teammate. My theory does not require said assumption.
Also-- starting the vote on someone on your own team that early in the day?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:00 pm
by Turnip Head
Dom wrote:I think her behavior throughout the game was a strong indicator that she wasn't on the same page as her team.
Was there distancing in that poll? Probably.
However, your "theory" (it's not a formal theory, you're throwing it out there for speculation's sake-- I think) requires an assumption that I voted for my own teammate. My theory does not require said assumption.
Also-- starting the vote on someone on your own team that early in the day?
I think both our assumptions are equally plausible as baddie behavior. I just happen to believe one more than I believe the other.

And voting your own teammate early has been done before. Zomba was an obvious lynch candidate Day 3, and as I said, I think there's a good chance they decided to throw in the towel early on her. Golden, the ringleader of the Vomps counter-bandwagon, was NK'd by the baddies, so we know he didn't have ulterior motives. I don't think the baddies saw the Vomps thing coming. They didn't have time to wait around for it to happen, either.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:11 pm
by Turnip Head
So how did everyone feel about Sophie's responses?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:22 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Did Dom just call you a civ?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:23 pm
by Turnip Head
:ponder:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:28 pm
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote:So how did everyone feel about Sophie's responses?
I have no comments on Sophie right now because I'm still trying to process what she's saying.

It's not the English Sophie; I understand that clearly. I just don't get the message you are trying to get across, or what you are responding to.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:41 pm
by Dom
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Did Dom just call you a civ?
No?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:41 pm
by Dom
Turnip Head wrote:So how did everyone feel about Sophie's responses?
I don't really know what she's responding TO, tbh. You know??

The whole situation's weird if ya ask me. I'm kind of confused about it.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:42 pm
by Dom
I'm voting now because I have a busy day tomorrow and don't want to forget-- for DP.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:51 pm
by Dom
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Did Dom just call you a civ?
Let me say a few words now that I've thought about what you're saying here.

#1) I don't even know where you're getting that I'm calling Epig a civ.
#2) Baddies don't know who the civs are because Celestials.
#3) I do, however, lean civ on Epig right now.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:00 am
by Marmot
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Did Dom just call you a civ?
Let me say a few words now that I've thought about what you're saying here.

#1) I don't even know where you're getting that I'm calling Epig a civ.
#2) Baddies don't know who the civs are because Celestials.
#3) I do, however, lean civ on Epig right now.
You said "And that's why you never win as civ". Unless there is a context I am unaware of, it looked like a possible slip to me.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:07 am
by Dom
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.
I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.
Did Dom just call you a civ?
Let me say a few words now that I've thought about what you're saying here.

#1) I don't even know where you're getting that I'm calling Epig a civ.
#2) Baddies don't know who the civs are because Celestials.
#3) I do, however, lean civ on Epig right now.
You said "And that's why you never win as civ". Unless there is a context I am unaware of, it looked like a possible slip to me.
How is that calling him a civ in this game?
Epig rarely wins as a civilian.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 4]

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:12 am
by Turnip Head
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:So how did everyone feel about Sophie's responses?
I don't really know what she's responding TO, tbh. You know??

The whole situation's weird if ya ask me. I'm kind of confused about it.
That's exactly it. Her response was vague and weak. "I know I'm not playing like a civvie but I am one trust" is all she said. Her post about DF was in reply to splintsy I believe.