The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:46 pm**

I should have had more coffee before looking for those vote manips.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:04 pm**

Honestly, I'm glad no one has been lynched [yet]. I was starting to feel better about llama due his last couple of posts before the lynch post, but Nev's role analysis on llama makes me hesitate further (thank you for doing that btw, Nev). I will point out that the downside to llama potentially being Sander Cohen is that he would no longer be able to win with anyone who has voted for him so far (and that's no small number). So if the latter is the case, I am truely sorry, llama.

SVS, I'm going to throw in the towel and agree to disagree. I know what I meant. You know what you meant. Lynch Epi for all I care. I'm quite curious to see his role and whether or not it was worth the argument. I got a few :eyeballs: from it (which I don't understand at all) so thus far it hasn't been worth it.

I'm going to go back to voting my good friend BWT tomorrow. I kinda sorta regret not doing that yesterday.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:07 pm**

Nevinera wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'm also starting feel that I helped rez a baddie in SVS. But I may be a bit biased there.
I don't get that impression. You know, in my gut.

I do know what you mean. I only said this because she was against me in the "discussion" yesterday. And last time that happened (WWE) she was bad.... But so was I... But that's not the point

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:08 pm**

However, I will not be voting for SVS any time soon unless something drasticly changes. I might even take a mild change in circumstances but we'll see

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:45 pm**

Ahhh I'm relieved in a way as I would have felt awful for literally years if I had been a part of a lynch that ousted llama in the Championships. I need some time to mull over my next move. I'm not inclined to vote him on consecutive days in case a civ used a lynch save/switch on him. I was convinced he was Zodac but I need to regroup a bit.

Good outline, Nev.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:07 pm**

I'm actually perfectly fine with the result of that, given I'm still unsure about llama. Although given Nev's breakdown, it sounds like voting for him would be good for civs. But there's no guarantee he would die either, so I'll probably hold off on him for now.

I think Epig is still my #1 priority though. And I will most likely be voting him again tomorrow.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:10 pm**

Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'm going to go back to voting my good friend BWT tomorrow. I kinda sorta regret not doing that yesterday.

But shouldn't you be open to expanding your mind, looking for clarity, and trying to view the world through a different lens?

Okay, enough with the philosophical bullshit. :P Is it still the same reasons you mentioned before, or is there something else that has you further convinced I'm bad?

Also (and I would direct this question to anyone who has/will consider voting for me), what do you think of Epig?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:03 pm**

I forgot to say this yesterday and wanted to make a point of it. Now that the role secrets have revealed Zodac as a true indy and not an SK, I don't think finding him or lynching him should be a priority at all. I for one would be as thrilled to win with Zodac as without him. I also think this means we don't have to watch what we say at night as closely, because even if Zodac knows who we're going to lycnh, he'd theoretically onyl use his power to save himself and not to lynch civs.

Thanks for the analysis, Nev. Mathematically, it sounds like voting llama is a good move. However, I'd still very much like to hear from him, because my gut was screaming civ at me at the end of yesterday, and llama's a big asset if he's on our side.

Hedge, I agree it's not certain that BOB's minion is among those 3. Hopefully tonight brings a bit more clarity.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Also (and I would direct this question to anyone who has/will consider voting for me), what do you think of Epig?

I haven't been as pinged by Epi as a lot of people seem to, which is unusual for me. I remember saying that the case on him seemed like a party line, actually. Now I'm less sure. He's on my list of possible BOB recruits and possible Kate teammates, like you, so he's moved up a lot on my suspect list. I also thought your point about Dom supporting him was interesting.

Does anyone know if Dom and Epi (or BWT, for that matter) are friends irl? I think that if they are, Dom could have recruited Epi, because in every recruitment game I've been in, people tend to recruit people they'd have a good time being baddies with. Even if they're not, recruiting Epi could have been a good move because he's been a successful baddie in the past; I'm just wondering if anything else can shine light on the situation.

Also, bea, what were you trying to say yesterday? I feel like I wasn't getting it, and I'd like to.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:03 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'm going to go back to voting my good friend BWT tomorrow. I kinda sorta regret not doing that yesterday.
But shouldn't you be open to expanding your mind, looking for clarity, and trying to view the world through a different lens?

Okay, enough with the philosophical bullshit. :P Is it still the same reasons you mentioned before, or is there something else that has you further convinced I'm bad?

Also (and I would direct this question to anyone who has/will consider voting for me), what do you think of Epig?

Mmmmm No.

Same reasons

I remain unconvinced and I believe your civ reveal was a set up

It could just as easily have been the one typed into the NP as Nev's.

Also, I have no ideas about Epi yet. I just won't be voting for him until have a decent enough reason to.

Russti, I feel exactly the same way about Zodac now that the secrets have been revealed.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:12 pm**

Nevin, I have no real issues with Zodac at this point. In WWE i had no issues with CBK until she killed a civvie. Even though i was not one myself, lol, I felt that made her bad, and this a danger to all. So, i have no intention of seeking him out, or making a production of it should I accidentally run into him. Hell, he's my hero at this point for bringing me back, knowing my stance on Indies. I appreciate that, and understand the gesture. Just saying

Dom & Epi are not RL friends, and I don't know that Dom would recruit Epi. I know Dom pretty well, but it did not occur to me to look at who he may have recruited. Had i been alive on night 2, I think he would have tried to recruit me possibly, not sure who else though. I would have to think about that.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:26 pm**

Looking at the list, I think he might have tried for reywaS (dead) or Kate (dead). But I don't know everyone he has had good BTS with, so it could be one of many people.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:38 pm**

Quick question; why do Nevinera, Blindfaith & Rustifinko's posts say it's Day 5 and everyone else's say it's Night 5? Is this a site glitch or does it maybe have some significance?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:41 pm**

EBWOP: juliets is the same....

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:42 pm**

Do those posts have quotes? They may have quoted a post from a different day.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:43 pm**

yeah the one of Nevins without a quote said Night 5

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:54 pm**

that's weird...but at least its an explaination. THX!

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:56 pm**

It is a normal feature with phpbb, if you have predominantly played at boards like HV & LP, which are v-Bulletin, you may not be familiar with this feature.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:18 pm**

S~V~S wrote:Nevin, I have no real issues with Zodac at this point. In WWE i had no issues with CBK until she killed a civvie. Even though i was not one myself, lol, I felt that made her bad, and this a danger to all. So, i have no intention of seeking him out, or making a production of it should I accidentally run into him. Hell, he's my hero at this point for bringing me back, knowing my stance on Indies. I appreciate that, and understand the gesture. Just saying

Dom & Epi are not RL friends, and I don't know that Dom would recruit Epi. I know Dom pretty well, but it did not occur to me to look at who he may have recruited. Had i been alive on night 2, I think he would have tried to recruit me possibly, not sure who else though. I would have to think about that.

I agree and all, but I think you meant to reply to Russ?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:22 pm**

Oh crap, maybe I did lol. Quoting is a bitch when i post from phone, so I may have done that. I am sorry about that to you both

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:30 pm**

Night 5 Event: Disgraceful

"You so-called champions are a disgrace", declared Sherlock. "It only seems fair that one of you be removed... In fact, almost all of you should be, but one will suffice. Alert me by dawn whom you most believe is mentally vacant. Thankfully, the numbers for that criteria are plenty sufficient."

It is still Night 5.

In addition to sending in your night PMs, you have 24 hours to decide who deserves to be removed from the case.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:38 pm**

I voted for gleam. I'm going to bed. Catch you all tomorrow.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
A GAME OF CHAMPIONS

So what does this mean?

3. Just because you're out doesn't mean it's over.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:53 pm**

I will vote for Gleam, BDH, or Faraday. Votes are more important than lots of posts.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:54 pm**

Elohcin wrote:I will vote for Gleam, BDH, or Faraday. Votes are more important than lots of posts.

yeah, that is my perspective too.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:55 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
A GAME OF CHAMPIONS

So what does this mean?

3. Just because you're out doesn't mean it's over.

MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:55 pm**

heheheheheheheheheh

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:58 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
A GAME OF CHAMPIONS

So what does this mean?

3. Just because you're out doesn't mean it's over.
MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.

MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.
MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.
MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.
MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.
MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU. MU'HU XQBVMQO JXUHU.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:59 pm**

And now back to your regularly scheduled Champions game.

Carry on.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:00 pm**

THE OWLS ARE NOT WHAT THEY MOTHERFUCKIN' SEEM, BITCH!

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:02 pm**

yeah, OK.

My signal to go to bed

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:03 pm**

insertnamehere wrote:THE OWLS ARE NOT WHAT THEY MOTHERFUCKIN' SEEM, BITCH!

Quiet, dead person. Or else.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:08 pm**

I'm leaning toward df or vomps - do we have any decent reason to think any of these people is bad?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:14 pm**

Vompatti voted to rezz kate.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:16 pm**

No, and why Faraday, and not, say, Gleam? With a similar voting record and even less posts?

Although i would consider Vomps, too. Have all of his votes been fairly random?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:16 pm**

That was directed at nevins post.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:18 pm**

I'm seeing a SCARY number of players I have had civ vibes about on this poll. Hopefully Zodak will know how to choose wisely...

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:20 pm**

Will choose one of the two-time vote-dodgers tomorrow evening.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:20 pm**

Pleased to see I'm still here. The State of the Union speech is keeping me too busy to say much tonight. I will make an effort to respond to some of the (false!) allegations against me in the morning.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:21 pm**

BigDamnHero wrote:I'm seeing a SCARY number of players I have had civ vibes about on this poll. Hopefully Zodak will know how to choose wisely...

If they are civs, they should vote and join in discussion when they can. what are you basing your vibes on if not discussion and voting records?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:23 pm**

* Votes Llama in the Night Poll *

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:25 pm**

In my defense, I openly admit to missing the vote on Day 1. I was out with the flu & by the time I realized I had to vote, I had missed the poll closing by 15 minutes. My bad...mea culpa...

D2, however, is an altogether different matter. I can't say much, but I will say that my actions that day (or more importantly INactions) were officially sanctioned. Unfortunately, the only person who could possibly back this up...actually can't. Cryptic, I know, but those are the facts of the matter.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:27 pm**

Mongoose wrote:* Votes Llama in the Night Poll *

Oh yeah, I meant to say... IF I SURVIVE THE NIGHT! :P

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:28 pm**

BigDamnHero wrote:In my defense, I openly admit to missing the vote on Day 1. I was out with the flu & by the time I realized I had to vote, I had missed the poll closing by 15 minutes. My bad...mea culpa...

D2, however, is an altogether different matter. I can't say much, but I will say that my actions that day (or more importantly INactions) were officially sanctioned. Unfortunately, the only person who could possibly back this up...actually can't. Cryptic, I know, but those are the facts of the matter.

I'll buy that. I didn't mean you, by the way. I missed that you had skipped 2 votes. I really think I'll be leaning DF or Gleam tomorrow, as much as I'd rather not.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:32 pm**

BDH~

S~V~S wrote:
BigDamnHero wrote:I'm seeing a SCARY number of players I have had civ vibes about on this poll. Hopefully Zodak will know how to choose wisely...
If they are civs, they should vote and join in discussion when they can. what are you basing your vibes on if not discussion and voting records?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:43 pm**

S~V~S wrote:
BigDamnHero wrote:I'm seeing a SCARY number of players I have had civ vibes about on this poll. Hopefully Zodak will know how to choose wisely...
If they are civs, they should vote and join in discussion when they can. what are you basing your vibes on if not discussion and voting records?

I've already stated my belief that Bea is a civ & I know I am (duh!!!

)
Flyin'High was widely regarded as being a civ, and I read Spacedaisey as civ as well.
Didn't DFaraday been hosting a game somewhere else? So that would explain his absence, not that it is and indicator of allignment, but I believe him to be civ also.

So basically my choices come down to Aces, Gleam, Elhocin & Vompatti. Of these, I'm gonna go with Gleam for the same reason I voted for him in the day poll.

Linki @ mongoose: if I had to choose between JUST those 2 players, I would strongly suggest Gleam over DF.

linki@ SVS....uhhmmmm....yes?

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:47 pm**

I was dead most of this game, I did not see you stating your beliefs, which is why i asked you what you based your vibes on if not discussion and voting records.

So you base your vibes on other people widely regarding people as being civ? FWIW, I have seen nothing bad in Daisy either, and not enough of Bea to say.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:06 am**

S~V~S wrote:I was dead most of this game, I did not see you stating your beliefs, which is why i asked you what you based your vibes on if not discussion and voting records.

So you base your vibes on other people widely regarding people as being civ? FWIW, I have seen nothing bad in Daisy either, and not enough of Bea to say.

When I actgually HAVE a strong belief, you'll know it...just ask MP about our tussles in Homestar. As of yet, I have nothing strong to go on as I'm still getting a handle on WTF is going on at any given moment due to secret roles, Zodak switches, power redirects, etc.

I base my vibes on certain people I've heavily weighted more as civ and when/if they give their opinion of someone's alliegence I take heed of that. Since a few of those peeps have given the civ nod towards FH, I'm inclined to do the same for the time being until I see something that would make me question it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:49 am**

I'm leaning towards Gleam atm. I considered Vomps for his random DH vote early in the game, but as that is his normal style I don't want to put too much weight on it.

Speaking of, I feel like this poll is biased against those of us who happen to have an elusive playing style.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:40 am**

Voted for gleam because I don't think he'd mind being lynched if you know what I mean.

Also, if you read back and consider all the facts that have been presented, you will find that I'm probably a civvie.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:55 am**

PROBABLY a civvie? Sounds like you're not too sure about that...

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