The Syndicate

And for the record, Ketterman, at this point i trust you less than i trust SVS, but this argument is strong.

There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Keterman wrote:There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Well while you're here, what was your opinion of my argument against MR?

Made wrote:

Keterman wrote:There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Well while you're here, what was your opinion of my argument against MR?

And apologies for the double t

Keterman wrote:There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Not insanified anymore?

And why exactly? I have explained myself a jillion times, yet it seems people all suspect me for opposing reasons. For suspecting Made, for not suspecting made, for backing off of Made, for not pursing Made hard enough. Lots of people have done that re Made.

Why just me? Good question.

I honestly thought you had info. After your "positiveness" in Fight Club, you need to throttle back a bit on the assuredness. You were positive LC was "confirmed civ" and he was bad, and that llama was bad and (at that point) he was one of the top civvie roles. We don't play the same as at MafiaScum, we have different tells. Next time you have a forced vote, wait till closer to the end of the lynch, and just make one post. That way no one believes you are onto anything.

S~V~S wrote:

Keterman wrote:There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Not insanified anymore?

And why exactly? I have explained myself a jillion times, yet it seems people all suspect me for opposing reasons. For suspecting Made, for not suspecting made, for backing off of Made, for not pursing Made hard enough. Lots of people have done that re Made.

Why just me? Good question.

I honestly thought you had info. After your "positiveness" in Fight Club, you need to throttle back a bit on the assuredness. You were positive LC was "confirmed civ" and he was bad, and that llama was bad and (at that point) he was one of the top civvie roles. We don't play the same as at MafiaScum, we have different tells. Next time you have a forced vote, wait till closer to the end of the lynch, and just make one post. That way no one believes you are onto anything.

As a point to both sides, He was positive in Misfits as mafia, but he was right.

S~V~S wrote:
There are the persons I am on record as saying I thought they defended Made fairly aggressively:

Enrique
LC

I did?

Keterman, I'm not voting Made "because everyone else is". That's a pretty reductive and manipulative reading of my explanation.

This is the part of bwt I was saying I agreed with. Sorry I didn't quote it.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: I said that on Monday, it's now Saturday. A lot can happen in the space of a week. The seemer thing has made me distrust you because as I've said a few times I'm always wary of people who fall back on seemer accusations after civ lynches so the fact you're doing it before he's even been lynched is just grabbing my attention like crazy. It's not that I don't take you seriously, it's just that I find some of the things you're pushing to be a bit shifty. Not only the seemer thing but also the "let's lynch the people around Made before we lynch him" which you must admit can be taken to look as if you're his teammate trying to buy him some time. I did trust you at first but I always want to trust you. Now I trust you less. If we finally lynch Made today (who I'll probably vote for unless something crazy happens) then the outcome of that will affect how I see you. At this point I'd probably still vote MM over you just because of my gut telling me he's bad. Maybe JC too though I'm beginning to turn away from her I think.

Sorry to chop off the rest of the quote, but the bolded part is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. How I view SVS really comes down to what Made is. And while I like it or not, I don't see any other way to get past this mental roadblock until we deal with Made.

So that being said, I'm sorry Made, but given your case on MR which I didn't believe, the general confusion you've caused (either intentionally or unintentionally), this thread needs to move on. And it cannot be with you. I've waffled on you many times in this game, so here's to hoping that my bad read of you is correct.

Votes Made

I agree w/ bwt and Bullz that we're not moving on to anything else until made is gone. Yes, I think Made is civ (I'm not sure, I don't have your preternatural ability to feel sure about things, Keterman), but I think so. But I've been expressing that opinion for days. No one else thinks so. Therefore, I'm willing to consider that I'm wrong. If it would make you feel better about me, I could ineffectually vote for Mongoose again, because that empty gesture would totally avoid the inevitable lynch of Made today. I think we need to move on. A townie might die. I hope that's not the case, but I've done what I could to sway popular opinion away from that and have been unsuccessful. The civiness of Made is not a hill I'm prepared to die on, so yeah. I'm going to concede this one, vote with the majority, and take my share of the blame if he turns up civ.

Your playstyle is to trust yourself more than you trust anyone else and stick to your guns no matter what. That is not my playstyle....and that's OK.

Canucklehead wrote:Keterman, I'm not voting Made "because everyone else is". That's a pretty reductive and manipulative reading of my explanation.

This is the part of bwt I was saying I agreed with. Sorry I didn't quote it.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: I said that on Monday, it's now Saturday. A lot can happen in the space of a week. The seemer thing has made me distrust you because as I've said a few times I'm always wary of people who fall back on seemer accusations after civ lynches so the fact you're doing it before he's even been lynched is just grabbing my attention like crazy. It's not that I don't take you seriously, it's just that I find some of the things you're pushing to be a bit shifty. Not only the seemer thing but also the "let's lynch the people around Made before we lynch him" which you must admit can be taken to look as if you're his teammate trying to buy him some time. I did trust you at first but I always want to trust you. Now I trust you less. If we finally lynch Made today (who I'll probably vote for unless something crazy happens) then the outcome of that will affect how I see you. At this point I'd probably still vote MM over you just because of my gut telling me he's bad. Maybe JC too though I'm beginning to turn away from her I think.

Sorry to chop off the rest of the quote, but the bolded part is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. How I view SVS really comes down to what Made is. And while I like it or not, I don't see any other way to get past this mental roadblock until we deal with Made.

So that being said, I'm sorry Made, but given your case on MR which I didn't believe, the general confusion you've caused (either intentionally or unintentionally), this thread needs to move on. And it cannot be with you. I've waffled on you many times in this game, so here's to hoping that my bad read of you is correct.

Votes Made

I agree w/ bwt and Bullz that we're not moving on to anything else until made is gone. Yes, I think Made is civ (I'm not sure, I don't have your preternatural ability to feel sure about things, Keterman), but I think so. But I've been expressing that opinion for days. No one else thinks so. Therefore, I'm willing to consider that I'm wrong. If it would make you feel better about me, I could ineffectually vote for Mongoose again, because that empty gesture would totally avoid the inevitable lynch of Made today. I think we need to move on. A townie might die. I hope that's not the case, but I've done what I could to sway popular opinion away from that and have been unsuccessful. The civiness of Made is not a hill I'm prepared to die on, so yeah. I'm going to concede this one, vote with the majority, and take my share of the blame if he turns up civ.

Your playstyle is to trust yourself more than you trust anyone else and stick to your guns no matter what. That is not my playstyle....and that's OK.

In what scenario would you die if you voted to save me, but I still died and flipped civvie?

Made wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Keterman, I'm not voting Made "because everyone else is". That's a pretty reductive and manipulative reading of my explanation.

This is the part of bwt I was saying I agreed with. Sorry I didn't quote it.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: I said that on Monday, it's now Saturday. A lot can happen in the space of a week. The seemer thing has made me distrust you because as I've said a few times I'm always wary of people who fall back on seemer accusations after civ lynches so the fact you're doing it before he's even been lynched is just grabbing my attention like crazy. It's not that I don't take you seriously, it's just that I find some of the things you're pushing to be a bit shifty. Not only the seemer thing but also the "let's lynch the people around Made before we lynch him" which you must admit can be taken to look as if you're his teammate trying to buy him some time. I did trust you at first but I always want to trust you. Now I trust you less. If we finally lynch Made today (who I'll probably vote for unless something crazy happens) then the outcome of that will affect how I see you. At this point I'd probably still vote MM over you just because of my gut telling me he's bad. Maybe JC too though I'm beginning to turn away from her I think.

Sorry to chop off the rest of the quote, but the bolded part is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. How I view SVS really comes down to what Made is. And while I like it or not, I don't see any other way to get past this mental roadblock until we deal with Made.

So that being said, I'm sorry Made, but given your case on MR which I didn't believe, the general confusion you've caused (either intentionally or unintentionally), this thread needs to move on. And it cannot be with you. I've waffled on you many times in this game, so here's to hoping that my bad read of you is correct.

Votes Made

I agree w/ bwt and Bullz that we're not moving on to anything else until made is gone. Yes, I think Made is civ (I'm not sure, I don't have your preternatural ability to feel sure about things, Keterman), but I think so. But I've been expressing that opinion for days. No one else thinks so. Therefore, I'm willing to consider that I'm wrong. If it would make you feel better about me, I could ineffectually vote for Mongoose again, because that empty gesture would totally avoid the inevitable lynch of Made today. I think we need to move on. A townie might die. I hope that's not the case, but I've done what I could to sway popular opinion away from that and have been unsuccessful. The civiness of Made is not a hill I'm prepared to die on, so yeah. I'm going to concede this one, vote with the majority, and take my share of the blame if he turns up civ.

Your playstyle is to trust yourself more than you trust anyone else and stick to your guns no matter what. That is not my playstyle....and that's OK.

In what scenario would you die if you voted to save me, but I still died and flipped civvie?

Huh? "Not a hill I want to die on" is a figure of speech. I didn't literally mean I thought I would die.

I meant to imply that I am not so sure of you being a civ that I'm willing to continue standing up for you to my own detriment (i.e. garnering increased suspicion on me).

Canucklehead wrote:

Made wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Keterman, I'm not voting Made "because everyone else is". That's a pretty reductive and manipulative reading of my explanation.

This is the part of bwt I was saying I agreed with. Sorry I didn't quote it.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: I said that on Monday, it's now Saturday. A lot can happen in the space of a week. The seemer thing has made me distrust you because as I've said a few times I'm always wary of people who fall back on seemer accusations after civ lynches so the fact you're doing it before he's even been lynched is just grabbing my attention like crazy. It's not that I don't take you seriously, it's just that I find some of the things you're pushing to be a bit shifty. Not only the seemer thing but also the "let's lynch the people around Made before we lynch him" which you must admit can be taken to look as if you're his teammate trying to buy him some time. I did trust you at first but I always want to trust you. Now I trust you less. If we finally lynch Made today (who I'll probably vote for unless something crazy happens) then the outcome of that will affect how I see you. At this point I'd probably still vote MM over you just because of my gut telling me he's bad. Maybe JC too though I'm beginning to turn away from her I think.

Sorry to chop off the rest of the quote, but the bolded part is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. How I view SVS really comes down to what Made is. And while I like it or not, I don't see any other way to get past this mental roadblock until we deal with Made.

So that being said, I'm sorry Made, but given your case on MR which I didn't believe, the general confusion you've caused (either intentionally or unintentionally), this thread needs to move on. And it cannot be with you. I've waffled on you many times in this game, so here's to hoping that my bad read of you is correct.

Votes Made

I agree w/ bwt and Bullz that we're not moving on to anything else until made is gone. Yes, I think Made is civ (I'm not sure, I don't have your preternatural ability to feel sure about things, Keterman), but I think so. But I've been expressing that opinion for days. No one else thinks so. Therefore, I'm willing to consider that I'm wrong. If it would make you feel better about me, I could ineffectually vote for Mongoose again, because that empty gesture would totally avoid the inevitable lynch of Made today. I think we need to move on. A townie might die. I hope that's not the case, but I've done what I could to sway popular opinion away from that and have been unsuccessful. The civiness of Made is not a hill I'm prepared to die on, so yeah. I'm going to concede this one, vote with the majority, and take my share of the blame if he turns up civ.

Your playstyle is to trust yourself more than you trust anyone else and stick to your guns no matter what. That is not my playstyle....and that's OK.

In what scenario would you die if you voted to save me, but I still died and flipped civvie?

Huh? "Not a hill I want to die on" is a figure of speech. I didn't literally mean I thought I would die.

I meant to imply that I am not so sure of you being a civ that I'm willing to continue standing up for you to my own detriment (i.e. garnering increased suspicion on me).

Alright. If I'm lynched today, and I do flip civvie, who do you most suspect for Mafia?

I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

Working most of tomorrow, so afraid I'll forget to vote if I don't vote now. Voting Made.

Long Con wrote:I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

Ok this argument is the type of argument any mafia can get behind. It's hedging your bet. If I flip mafia, then they voted me so they're happy they voted me, but when i flip civvie, they're safe from criticism as they believed I was civvie the entire time.

If you think that I am less suspicious than someone else, then pursue that person and vote for them. Don't just vote to kill a civvie. It shouldn't matter if I come up in discussion. In any other game, If you thought someone was suspicious, but another person thinks someone else is suspicious, you don't agree to have them lynched to prove them wrong??? If other's are misguided, push forward your theory instead. A civvies most powerful tool is their vote, and if Mafia can take that from them, then civvies lose all power and mafia wins.


Mafia isn't going to start cooperating and listening to town because i'm dead.

There are easily enough doubter to keep me alive, but even if you don't see me as innocent enough to vote to save me, vote who you think is guilty.

MM, Canuck, BWT, LC, and Bullz: Either admit I am mafia and vote for me, or vote who you think mafia is.

(Also i still need Who people think is suspicious if(when) I flip civvie. I only have them from llama(SVS) and Dana(Llama), and I already directly asked MM and Canuck.)

Made wrote:Either admit I am mafia

Just saying.

LoRab wrote:

Made wrote:Either admit I am mafia

Just saying.

It's cool. I'm Made, so I'm allowed to say stuff like that. Also, nice to finally meet you. I love your emotion!

Made wrote: MM, Canuck, BWT, LC, and Bullz: Either admit I am mafia and vote for me, or vote who you think mafia is.

You realise I already voted for you right? As of the last lynch I think the arguments for you being bad outweigh the arguments for you being good.

Made: I'm not voting for you so that I can hedge my bets and pull the "See, I told you he was civ!" card that you're accusing LC of doing. I'm voting for you b/c I haven't convinced anyone that you're civ (possibly not even myself since I've really been on the fence with you all game). All the reasons I think you are civ (the lovers, being the main one) have been refuted by others and even by YOU...so there isn't really a lot of evidence to put in the Civvie Made binder other than a lingering gut feeling. So I'm left with a choice of going with my gut and continuing to vote against the herd with no possibility of making a difference to the vote's outcome and inevitably getting shit for that vote tomorrow ("Canuck is Made's teammate!!!" if you turn up bad, or "Canuck knew Made was civ even though he was acting super baddie so she must be baddie!!" if you turn up good), or voting WITH the herd and getting shit tomorrow, though perhaps slightly less ("Canuck is flip-floppy and followed groupthink instead of her gut"). SVS was already getting ready to turn to Made supporters after this lynch.

If I'm being perfectly honest (always a bad idea in a Mafia game), I think you are already dead. There is no chance to save you. I am thus trying to mitigate the backlash that I receive from your death so that a townie (me) doesn't get lynched tomorrow. I am literally at this point 50/50 on your civness based entirely on gut, so I'm willing to vote for you, regardless of the fact that it makes Keterman think I'm "scum".

As to your question, if you flip bad I could see myself buying the argument that SVS is your teammate...if you flip good I become much more inclined to start looking for mafia in the quieter, more blendy players who have jut sort of gone along with things for the last few days without any effort to shift the conversation...nijajujube, maybe? Hedgie? juliets, perhaps? I'll have to do a reread of a few players at that point to see what I can see

Keterman wrote:Also, Canucklehead compares herself to bwt with her position. Yet their positions are clearly completely different. bwt said that he thinks that both SVS and Made are bad, and that it is only a matter of which one of them is more likely to be bad. Canucklehead thinks that Made is town and didn't even mention the possibility that SVS is bad in her post, only referencing her to ask Made a question. I am now willing to lynch Canuck.

linki - When did I say I was cursed? My keyboard was having problems. I would type a sentence and I would have to wait 30+ seconds to find out if it would render in the reply-machine-whatchamacallit. I got sick of how time consuming that was so I just started posting whatever ended up showing up. Now I've found a solution for it so it's all good.

Why should she mention it, it isn't true.

I also have decided not to play along with Dennis' little mind games. I do not trust his motives.

juliets wrote:

juliets wrote: And Dana, hahahaha, I hope you go to a football school!

Dana wrote:I honestly have no idea. I biked around campus earlier and there were big groups of people in the fields but I wasn't interested enough to go and see what was up. Is it like championships or something today?

Dana i forgot you live in the northeast. Football really isn't as big a deal up there so I can understand how you've gone all this time not knowing really what football is. Never mind my comment, you'll find out soon enough if you go to one of the big northern football schools!Oh, and it's only the second game of the college season, first game weekend for the pro's. Championships will be in Jan. - Feb.

I live in Tallahassee, and yesterday was positively insane. Also, a bit awkward because I went to UF.

thellama73 wrote:I also have decided not to play along with Dennis' little mind games. I do not trust his motives.

Long Con wrote:I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

So you think that maybe the secrets to AP's role are that he would sacrifice himself for the surival of Lancelot? That fits with the movie description. I am actually very inclined to believe this.

This would mean that Made is Sir Lancelot though. Hmm...

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

Ok this argument is the type of argument any mafia can get behind. It's hedging your bet. If I flip mafia, then they voted me so they're happy they voted me, but when i flip civvie, they're safe from criticism as they believed I was civvie the entire time.

If you think that I am less suspicious than someone else, then pursue that person and vote for them. Don't just vote to kill a civvie. It shouldn't matter if I come up in discussion. In any other game, If you thought someone was suspicious, but another person thinks someone else is suspicious, you don't agree to have them lynched to prove them wrong??? If other's are misguided, push forward your theory instead. A civvies most powerful tool is their vote, and if Mafia can take that from them, then civvies lose all power and mafia wins.


Mafia isn't going to start cooperating and listening to town because i'm dead.

There are easily enough doubter to keep me alive, but even if you don't see me as innocent enough to vote to save me, vote who you think is guilty.

MM, Canuck, BWT, LC, and Bullz: Either admit I am mafia and vote for me, or vote who you think mafia is.

(Also i still need Who people think is suspicious if(when) I flip civvie. I only have them from llama(SVS) and Dana(Llama), and I already directly asked MM and Canuck.)

Made, I do think you are very suspicious. I have said so countless times since Day 1. I have voted you every single day (though may Day 2 vote changed later to Enrique). The thing that is making me less suspicious now is some game mechanic logic, NOT from your playing. I'm really uncertain as to what you are asking of me (and everyone else) in this post.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

So you think that maybe the secrets to AP's role are that he would sacrifice himself for the surival of Lancelot? That fits with the movie description. I am actually very inclined to believe this.

This would mean that Made is Sir Lancelot though. Hmm...

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:I understand that Made has to be lynched, but if there were wagers on the outcome, I would put a small bet on him being the Civvie role that A Person's lynch alludes to. A small bet, as in I'm not super confident, but I still kind of think it.

Too much reasonable doubt though.

Ok this argument is the type of argument any mafia can get behind. It's hedging your bet. If I flip mafia, then they voted me so they're happy they voted me, but when i flip civvie, they're safe from criticism as they believed I was civvie the entire time.

If you think that I am less suspicious than someone else, then pursue that person and vote for them. Don't just vote to kill a civvie. It shouldn't matter if I come up in discussion. In any other game, If you thought someone was suspicious, but another person thinks someone else is suspicious, you don't agree to have them lynched to prove them wrong??? If other's are misguided, push forward your theory instead. A civvies most powerful tool is their vote, and if Mafia can take that from them, then civvies lose all power and mafia wins.


Mafia isn't going to start cooperating and listening to town because i'm dead.

There are easily enough doubter to keep me alive, but even if you don't see me as innocent enough to vote to save me, vote who you think is guilty.

MM, Canuck, BWT, LC, and Bullz: Either admit I am mafia and vote for me, or vote who you think mafia is.

(Also i still need Who people think is suspicious if(when) I flip civvie. I only have them from llama(SVS) and Dana(Llama), and I already directly asked MM and Canuck.)

Made, I do think you are very suspicious. I have said so countless times since Day 1. I have voted you every single day (though may Day 2 vote changed later to Enrique). The thing that is making me less suspicious now is some game mechanic logic, NOT from your playing. I'm really uncertain as to what you are asking of me (and everyone else) in this post.

Basically, I just wanted those who voted for me to repeat(or say for the first time) that they think I'm the most suspicious so they don't get any undeserved advantage at my death.

I'm going to vote now so that I can go get my book shopping done.

Made, I was willing to give you the benifit of the doubt toward your wacky behavior in the thread at the begining of the game because I've played with wacky players before. I know their behavior gets them unjustly lynched early and often especially when they are new to our circle and we are learning to adjust our reads of them.

When A person was lynched instead of you, I tried to figure out how you could still be civ despite a very incriminating switch. You have said that you and A person did not share a lovers role.

I took a leap of faith and followed your lead and Keterman's 11th hour rally that lynching you was a mistake and voted for MR - and we lost another civ.

Your most vocal defender, Enrique, was NKed and revealed a recruited baddie.

You suspect your accusers, you suspect your defenders, you suspect everyone anTypd expect everyone to trust you without giving them any reason to trust them.

No one. I mean, no one has any idea how you could at his point still be a civ and not be lancalot, and I've damn near driven myself crazy trying to justify how you could not be lancalot and still be a civ.

Typing all that out makes me feel more sure, not less that voting you is the right thing to do.

I'm sorry made as I genuinely enjoy the zany players, but I can't keep trying to do the mental gymnastics required to try to find the 1 and a million way you can be a civ all on my own dispite the evidence stated above.

votes Made

Made wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Made wrote:Either admit I am mafia

Just saying.

It's cool. I'm Made, so I'm allowed to say stuff like that. Also, nice to finally meet you. I love your emotion!

I assume that was autocorrect for emoticon, lol. And thank you. Pleasure to meet you, as well!!

Even if I think you're bad.

I'm not hedging my bet, I'm just saying it's still likely you're Lancelot, and are denying it to protect yourself from night kills. But I'm not at all confident that I'm right about that, and I'm done thinking about it.

I don't expect any accolades or anything if I'm right.

Votes Made.

Ugh.

Why ugh?

Civvie or mafia, well played Llama.

CIVVIE, BE AGGRESSIVE AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE HEARD DAMN IT!!!

Made has expired and gone to meet his maker! (hehe) He was Sir Lancelot, a civ!

Night 4 has begun.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Why ugh?

^ That's why.

Well. That happened.

Hmmmm...well dammit. RIP Made!

The good news of this is that I know where to go tomorrow.

What is the capital of Assyria? (hosts, deads, nons etc.)

Assyria is no longer in existence, thus it currently has no capital.

Alternative answer:

What is the capital of Assyria? (hosts, deads, nons etc.)

"A"

Well Danny, Occam was right. I thought he might have been playing it cool on the Lancelot front in order to save himself from immediate nightkill.

Either that, or he was a Seemer.

I still think he was bad and nothing will convince me otherwise.

13 votes....pretty sure that means I won. See you all in the Game of Champions


gg all. Great game Dispor/Roxy

thellama73 wrote:I still think he was bad and nothing will convince me otherwise.

So you're in S~V~S' camp, and believe he was some Seemed type... How do you feel about her now?

Good Question~ I believe he must have been Lancelot, as no one else really protested that idea. Had he shown up as any other role, i would have doubted, but not this role.

Long Con wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I still think he was bad and nothing will convince me otherwise.

So you're in S~V~S' camp, and believe he was some Seemed type... How do you feel about her now?

Oh she is a Baddie McBadderson all right.

thellama73 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I still think he was bad and nothing will convince me otherwise.

So you're in S~V~S' camp, and believe he was some Seemed type... How do you feel about her now?

Oh she is a Baddie McBadderson all right.

Agreed.

So I have one set suspecting me for backing off of Made, and one for not cutting hinm enough slack, is that it?

Like I said, I think there are two baddie teams.

nijuukyugou wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Why ugh?

^ That's why.

So drama. And you tried so hard to prevent it, didn't you?

S~V~S wrote:So I have one set suspecting me for backing off of Made, and one for not cutting hinm enough slack, is that it?

Like I said, I think there are two baddie teams.

It does seem a bit unfair. Before Made flipped, I was thinking about what various outcomes would mean for my read on you. If Made flips bad, I thought, then I think you are bad for the way you said "I think he is bad but I don't want to lynch him" and various other reasons. On the other hand, if Made flips good, you look equally bad for pushing the "seemer" role idea with no evidence and for your eagerness to lynch him early and late in the game.

There was really no outcome that would make me think you are good, and I feel bad about that, but I still think you are bad.