The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'll leave you alone for now, Rico. Take some time to make your own reads of everyone else.

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I'm back, bitches.


I gotta be horny, brothas and sistas. I skimmed right through those wallposts of semantics bw Rico and JJJ. I think I got the gist, but I just don't care really. It's like a couple of sea lions fighting over a rock. It's a rock- there are other rocks.

I like JJJ bringing up that just because someone can turn a pamphlet about horse breeds into a novel about World War II (I'm paraphrasing/largely misinterpreting) doesn't mean he is a seasoned writer. I can words words on the words page too. But JJJ in particular has been very WIFOMy this game. I'm not gonna quote the posts, and I know he's gonna want me to, but there have been little nuggets of JJJ bringing up arguments that made me cock my head. I'm still incredibly "meh" about JJJ. But I don't in particular take to WIFOMy asides.

Then Rico went and started making pictograms of trumptweets and while they are innovative, I can't help but imagine Rico spending a superfluous amount of time to set up that trope. Is that alignment indicative? Maybe. Hiding behind a gimmick is something I thought I read in my catchup as something someone shouldn't be judged too harshly for. But why? It is a gimmick. It's a man in drag is what it is. I'm feeling less good about Rico, but not enough to vote him today.

MP is doing his normal "I'm busy" crap, disappearing in the middle of the night. I tend to read that as bad. He's getting more in the line of "no-show" as we have in the game.

Sloonei is not as active as I expected him to be on Day 1. He gave an excuse, but I just, you know, expect more Sloon, and less nei.

Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

Beck came out guns ablazing with his hung-ho "I'm-new-here-but-ima-fuck-shit-up" mentality, and it was refreshing. But I wonder if he is acting rather than being. You know whaddimsayin?

Golden picked it up since I last called him lackluster. He got gritty being a third party omniscient on the Rico/JJJ thing. So he's a slight civ read to me.

Quin? I have no read on Quin. But fine, if I must. GTH: Bad.


Who am I missing?

Linki; oh, DrWilgy. I forgot you were playing. Whatchu got to say, bababooshakakee?

Oh shit I forgot boom, INH, leetic, and SVS.

Man, I really want to vote one of them just because I don't remember wha they've done this game. But I said I wouldn't be looking at low posters and no-shows specifically. ITS SO HARD THO because that's inherently suspicious.

I've read things. This thread is like 75% jay and rico. And in that exchange I like Jay's wall better. Or, more accurately, Rico's wall lost me pretty early. They both did, but I had more trouble following Rico's line of thought. I do not know how much of that is roleplay and how much is him just not making sense.
That said, the only alignment-indicative thing I pulled out of the exchange was Rico's apparent overreaction to MM's initial accusation, and the continued overreaction during the entire exchange. Even an honest Trump shouldn't have had to take such strong opposition to that claim. Methinks he's compensating for something, and that something is his lack of GOP-ness. Maybe. I don't necessarily want to vote for him at this point. I feel like he would be falling victim to simply being an enormous target.

Jay is a null read. There's about a 0.001% chance both of them are scum.

Just gonna find bits and pieces that stick out to me.

Sloonei wrote:Hello I will not be able to say anything or engage in anything game-related here until late tonight or early tomorrow. I apologize. Everyone do Day 1 things and I'll be back later.

Sloonei wrote:In the spirit of politics, I'm going to close my eyes and pick a random target. That person will be my first suspect.

Oh I landed on Jay. This will be fun. I'll uh... I'll read your posts in the morning, okay?

It's past morning and I'm still unsure of your thoughts this game. whats your opinion on JJJ now?

Linki: well there ya go

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:3J is my top suspect. He has projected an eagerness, which I expect, but it's empty. It's void. It looks productive, but it isn't.

I'd like to return to this post. There's an irony about it.

Epignosis has presented suspicion of me, which I expect, but it's empty. It's void. It looks like a substantive accusation, but it isn't.

What you've done in this post, Epi, is say things. You've made assertions. What you haven't done is point to a specific post (like you often do as a townie, for example in Triskaidekaphobia when you hated my assertion that sig was providing cop cover). Instead, you've thrown an umbrella over my entire post history and pretended that's sufficient. There's nothing for me to answer to other than the accusation itself -- there can be no substantive defense against an insubstantial accusation.

I could say: "Epi makes bad posts" and I'd be saying just as much as you said.

You're leaving out what else I said about you.

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:3J is my top suspect.

What else is new.

Epignosis wrote:He has projected an eagerness, which I expect, but it's empty. It's void. It looks productive, but it isn't.

True productivity on Day 0 is nearly impossible. That doesn't stop me from trying. Produce something better or kiss my ass.

I'm going to let you do your thing. If you're good, we'll end up burying the thread for nothing (except good times). If you're bad, then it's not like I can convince anybody to lynch you this early anyway. Am I correct that you've never been lynched on The Syndicate?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I could see the Epi post Golden referenced as a potential problem:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

At this point Epi suspects me in nearly every game, and I could see him forcing himself back into that realm as a baddie to maintain appearances. For him to suspect me more for saying that appears rather cooked.

Can you name which games?

Scotty and Quin are scum partners.

Scotty wrote:Just gonna find bits and pieces that stick out to me.

Sloonei wrote:Hello I will not be able to say anything or engage in anything game-related here until late tonight or early tomorrow. I apologize. Everyone do Day 1 things and I'll be back later.

Sloonei wrote:In the spirit of politics, I'm going to close my eyes and pick a random target. That person will be my first suspect.

Oh I landed on Jay. This will be fun. I'll uh... I'll read your posts in the morning, okay?

It's past morning and I'm still unsure of your thoughts this game. whats your opinion on JJJ now?

Linki: well there ya go

"Morning" lasts until about 2 PM for me.

Scotty wrote:I like JJJ bringing up that just because someone can turn a pamphlet about horse breeds into a novel about World War II (I'm paraphrasing/largely misinterpreting) doesn't mean he is a seasoned writer. I can words words on the words page too. But JJJ in particular has been very WIFOMy this game. I'm not gonna quote the posts, and I know he's gonna want me to, but there have been little nuggets of JJJ bringing up arguments that made me cock my head. I'm still incredibly "meh" about JJJ. But I don't in particular take to WIFOMy asides.

Could you quote the posts?

The only thing I can think of that might be interpreted as WIFOMy was "I don't care if I'm right". That?

It seems that no matter how many times I try to describe the way I play this game on Day 0/1, people still don't get it. So .

Sloonei wrote:I've read things. This thread is like 75% jay and rico. And in that exchange I like Jay's wall better. Or, more accurately, Rico's wall lost me pretty early. They both did, but I had more trouble following Rico's line of thought. I do not know how much of that is roleplay and how much is him just not making sense.
That said, the only alignment-indicative thing I pulled out of the exchange was Rico's apparent overreaction to MM's initial accusation, and the continued overreaction during the entire exchange. Even an honest Trump shouldn't have had to take such strong opposition to that claim. Methinks he's compensating for something, and that something is his lack of GOP-ness. Maybe. I don't necessarily want to vote for him at this point. I feel like he would be falling victim to simply being an enormous target.

Jay is a null read. There's about a 0.001% chance both of them are scum.

I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:I like JJJ bringing up that just because someone can turn a pamphlet about horse breeds into a novel about World War II (I'm paraphrasing/largely misinterpreting) doesn't mean he is a seasoned writer. I can words words on the words page too. But JJJ in particular has been very WIFOMy this game. I'm not gonna quote the posts, and I know he's gonna want me to, but there have been little nuggets of JJJ bringing up arguments that made me cock my head. I'm still incredibly "meh" about JJJ. But I don't in particular take to WIFOMy asides.

Could you quote the posts?

The only thing I can think of that might be interpreted as WIFOMy was "I don't care if I'm right". That?

It seems that no matter how many times I try to describe the way I play this game on Day 0/1, people still don't get it. So .

Since I'm around for a sec, I'll try and dig them up as best I can I guess.

You said you would do a master class on Day 1 strategies, and I'm willing to listen.

Sometimes. I might have ADD though. Either that, or SUBTRACT.

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

Come on Scotty, let's vote for Quin together.

Actually we played in Turf Wars too, but nobody suspected me in that game.

@ Epi

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Well, not with reasons, no. But one of his first posts in the game:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My first impressions.

Jay, Beck, MP are civilians.

Epignosis and Ricochet are mafia.

Inform me with his actions. I don't really know why he viewed you and Rick as bad, but he did, which i am thinking is more town-like than not.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay game! Make America Great Again!!!

I'll post more of my strategies later; right now I am on my way to a meeting with the man himself.

And yes, Rico, I 100% support Johnson/Weld.

Come on Mp, where u be? I feel like I don't have any dirt on you yet, but I think you're worse of the low posters. That I can remember your posts as not reasonating is a bad sign to me.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

What did you do last time?

Will you vote anyone to save yourself today?

Sloonei wrote:Scotty and Quin are scum partners.

Woah, I TOTALLY missed this.

Wtf?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: I agree with this assessment. Though I'm not sure I "like" any particular wall better than the other. I do think Rico could be building a wall of his own though... (thanks, be here all night. Remember to tip your waitress)

Why did you put a gun to your own head and scum read Quin?

Cuz I had no read of him, and figured I should.

so you arbitrarily put a scum read on him?

Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Scotty and Quin are scum partners.

Woah, I TOTALLY missed this.

Wtf?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

Epignosis wrote:If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The accusation you rendered bears that appearance. It was a negative assessment of my posts supported by no references to anything -- bad adjectives in a vacuum. If I don't know why you feel that way, I have ask myself whether you really suspect me or you're trying to suspect me.

I'm not sure yet whether "you suspect me every game good or bad" is accurate. The "bad" example was The Office, but you didn't speak ill of me until I was dead and I couldn't say anything. If you're bad now, I think this'd be the first example of you actually addressing me directly with fake suspicion. The scenario being imagined is that your tendency to suspect me when you're good has become frequent enough that it could be associated with your good self -- thus generating a reason to assume that posture when you're bad.

Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

I mean you seemed to trust me enough there to follow along in a vote that you've got no substantial reason to believe in, despite claiming to believe in it. You've also got no substantial reason to trust me, just a minute ago you were complaining that I haven't been active enough, and now I'm here and I'm throwing this bullshit in your face, so why are you listening to me?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

I mean you seemed to trust me enough there to follow along in a vote that you've got no substantial reason to believe in, despite claiming to believe in it. You've also got no substantial reason to trust me, just a minute ago you were complaining that I haven't been active enough, and now I'm here and I'm throwing this bullshit in your face, so why are you listening to me?

I happened to agree with your assessment of JJJ and Rico, doesn't mean I trust you.

Plus, I completely missed the part where you said we were baddie brothers. If I had seen that, I probably would not have even voted for Quin. As it is, I'll probably change it just because I feel like you've been trying to goad me into voting there.

I suspect him just as much as like 4 other people I could be voting for

Whether or not that is a baddie ploy, I'm not sure.

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

I'm not sure what you'd be missing. You both seem to suspect Quin, which I don't really agree or disagree with. He's had less significant a presence in this game than usual which I suppose isn't ideal. I'm not sure why Sloonei associated you two as team mates, so he could talk about that. Hey! Sloonei!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

I'm not sure what you'd be missing. You both seem to suspect Quin, which I don't really agree or disagree with. He's had less significant a presence in this game than usual which I suppose isn't ideal. I'm not sure why Sloonei associated you two as team mates, so he could talk about that. Hey! Sloonei!

My suspicion runs the same line as, say, INh or leetic. I don't remember what they said. I know they said something but to me, it's insubstantial.

I dunno, I think I still prefer voting for low-posters. This new day 1 strategy is not easy to navigate with Any sense of confidence.

The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

Sloonei, if you could vote anywhere else, where would it be? Since you have such little reason to be voting for Quin (I assume) as I do.

Quin wrote:

Beck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Beck, I hereby accuse you of using (trying to use) a fake random vote as a means of comfortably getting your feet into the scary cold water that is this game. I've done it before. What say you?

I say nay!

I voted for MP7 for one post in particular -- would be curios to see if you see what I see.

But let's say I did vote for MP7 to ease myself into the game, what does that make me?

(There's a right answer and a wrong answer, Jimmy.)

I'm looking at all of his four posts pretty intently, but I'm not seeing anything at all. The very most I can come up with is his 'I'll post more strategies later' thing and I'm pretty sure that's a political joke.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

I didn't really like these two posts from Quin, for the record. In the top one he makes sure to keep his distance from actually accusing MP of anything, but leaves the door open a crack, and in the second one he manages to take both sides of a case against Jay in consecutive sentences.

Hey all, haven't caught up and just wanted to let you know I'll try to do so tonight but no promises. Our internet is down so I'm posting from my phone which sucks. I had every intention of stopping by yesterday for an hour or more but comprehensive exams are two weeks from tomorrow, and we officially move apartments tomorrow, so it's been beyond hectic and I have had literally no free time except for an occasional few minutes checking Facebook to keep myself sane. Apologies folks. If I can't catch up at all before EoD d1 I'll probably ask for a replacement.

Scotty wrote:Sloonei, if you could vote anywhere else, where would it be? Since you have such little reason to be voting for Quin (I assume) as I do.

see below. or above. see the post around which we are sandwiched. the one by me, not by mp.

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

What made you pick me and Quin as teammates out of all my reads?
I'm not liking this conscious effort to manipulate me, Sloonster. I'm sorry you don't like my reads. It's something new I'm trying.

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

What made you pick me and Quin as teammates out of all my reads?

The way it was worded.

I'm not liking this conscious effort to manipulate me, Sloonster. I'm sorry you don't like my reads. It's something new I'm trying.

YEAH WELL it's done now. It's all straight talk from here on out.

I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

I was very confused by it and felt like he either quoted the wrong post or miscommunicated something.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

I do not get this analogy. Also you never said a word about why you might suspect Quin, just that you did. Why should it be a mark against me that I am able to substantiate this read we supposedly share?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

Had to look up what you're talking about-
What makes it seem most opportunistic is that there was no lead-in. He has 3 posts, and this is the only one he makes that offers an opinion one way or another. And it's tacked onto someone else's quote.
So yeah, that by itself is sketchy. It's pretty unoriginal.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

I do not get this analogy. Also you never said a word about why you might suspect Quin, just that you did. Why should it be a mark against me that I am able to substantiate this read we supposedly share?

By answering with "same as you" you are affirming that I am reading him bad because 'I can't remember what he said'. But then you come in backing it up after the fact, like you had a reason initially, you just lied about it.
It's Like me saying now that I'm suspicious of Quin because he killed my cat...I just chose not to mention that in my initial read.