The Syndicate

Can't say I agree about Soneji. Direct and to the point is civvie quality.

ok time to pee

Went with Scotty but switched to sonj for the extra insurance

Soneji has been lynched. He was:



It is Night 1 for the next 24 hours. Have fun in the hatch/on the beach!

G-Man wrote:Can't say I agree about Soneji. Direct and to the point is civvie quality.

Direct and to the point is Soneji. That's his demeanor; I wouldn't give him town points for it.

The issue I have is that I think his d1 vote logic is fabricated. I don't really know though. Obviously I'm not invested enough in this game.

Linki: Dammit. Sorry Soneji. RIP.

Y'all are so fun.

G, why did you wait until the last minute to declare where you would stay for the night?

MP, I am good. You watched lost, right? Read through my posts when you get a chance (just mine) and then make up your mind about me. I know I waffled a little on G, but I always do. I still half think he is good and half think he is bad. He's been helpful, but his motivations could be bad. He waited until the last minute to claim where he will stay, that pings a bit.

But I am more pinged by Sorsha and that is why I voted her. He role played the hell out of these past 48 hours and contributed nothing, imo. She claims that those who came in and claimed their night stay and left are suspicious but I don't find that suspicious at all. I am guessing those are busy people trying to get done what is required of them and then being on their merry way. I think they were bad, they would hold out to see where others were going first.

Woah linki

Quin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.

The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month

Also,

I'm back. Button pushing and everything, ya kno.

Oh, we mislynched Soneji. We'll see you in another life, brotha.

Now why the fuck did we do that?

Hmm, well, odds are we are going to get a civvie Day 1. Still stinks every time.

Scotty jumped on the end of that wagon at the last second after it had already taken charge. He hadn't voted before then AFAIK, so I might actually be inclined to civ read him for that. If he were bad, maybe he would've just not voted.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.

The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month

Also,

LOL, and you weren't even bad. So fun to watch, can't lie.

Elohcin wrote:Hmm, well, odds are we are going to get a civvie Day 1. Still stinks every time.

Not if we would have lynched you, methinks.

Elohcin wrote:Y'all are so fun.

G, why did you wait until the last minute to declare where you would stay for the night?

MP, I am good. You watched lost, right? Read through my posts when you get a chance (just mine) and then make up your mind about me. I know I waffled a little on G, but I always do. I still half think he is good and half think he is bad. He's been helpful, but his motivations could be bad. He waited until the last minute to claim where he will stay, that pings a bit.

But I am more pinged by Sorsha and that is why I voted her. He role played the hell out of these past 48 hours and contributed nothing, imo. She claims that those who came in and claimed their night stay and left are suspicious but I don't find that suspicious at all. I am guessing those are busy people trying to get done what is required of them and then being on their merry way. I think they were bad, they would hold out to see where others were going first.

Woah linki

Of course I watched LOST; that's how I met a lot of these fine people in our community, including my wife, and discovered mafia.

You don't have to give me an excuse for an ISO; I'll gladly take a look. I've posted like a madperson in GY!BE and am planning on ISOs there too, but I'll maybe throw a few down here soon too.

Spacedaisy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.

The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month

Also,

LOL, and you weren't even bad. So fun to watch, can't lie.

I almost went insane playing that game Almost.

Quin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.

The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month

Also,

LOL, and you weren't even bad. So fun to watch, can't lie.

I almost went insane playing that game Almost.

That was an incredibly entertaining game to watch.

Quin wrote:Scotty jumped on the end of that wagon at the last second after it had already taken charge. He hadn't voted before then AFAIK, so I might actually be inclined to civ read him for that. If he were bad, maybe he would've just not voted.

I saw that Sorsha had voted Scotty right after I did, and Scotty jumped on Soneji right after that.

So what did G-Man claim after all? I missed that as well.

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:Scotty jumped on the end of that wagon at the last second after it had already taken charge. He hadn't voted before then AFAIK, so I might actually be inclined to civ read him for that. If he were bad, maybe he would've just not voted.

I saw that Sorsha had voted Scotty right after I did, and Scotty jumped on Soneji right after that.

Make that a slight as shit civ read, then.

Ricochet wrote:So what did G-Man claim after all? I missed that as well.

Hatch.

Speaking of, hopefully G-Man can find the time to elaborate on the ISO's he did a bit.

Combating a clogged shower drain right now. I will elaborate on my ISO's later. You can count on that.

RIP Soneji. That makes it five at the Beach and seven in the Hatch.

Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I literally hopped on here last second to vote and saw I had voted so I voted Soneji. To save myself

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I'll be looking at you too.

I'm sorry for contributing for that mislynch with no substantive reason. I was only trying to save myself.
i have 2 live tv interviews tomorrow and I'm freakin nervous. Long day tomorrow so I am going to be very absent, I am sorry

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I'll be looking at you too.

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

Why wouldn't you look at and evaluate everyone's votes?

Scotty wrote:I'm sorry for contributing for that mislynch with no substantive reason. I was only trying to save myself.
i have 2 live tv interviews tomorrow and I'm freakin nervous. Long day tomorrow so I am going to be very absent, I am sorry

Kick some ass, bud.

where tf did that lynch train come from

Dom wrote:where tf did that lynch train come from

Oy, that's my line.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

Why wouldn't you look at and evaluate everyone's votes?

Obviously, I'm not gonna exclude anyone from suspicion.

It's more like I'm gonna be especially looking at the Soneji voter-dudes.

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

Why wouldn't you look at and evaluate everyone's votes?

Obviously, I'm not gonna exclude anyone from suspicion.

It's more like I'm gonna be especially looking at the Soneji voter-dudes.

I suppose that's fair.

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

That was absolute bollocks. Nobody talks about Soneji all day, then with ten minutes to go the votes pile on? That's bloody ludicrous!

If anyone asked me, I'd think the baddies are made up of two Soneji voters and either Eloh, Sorsha or G-Man. This just screams save.

Scotty wrote:I literally hopped on here last second to vote and saw I had voted so I voted Soneji. To save myself

You had one vote on you, mate. I mean, that's not exactly mortal danger, is it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Scotty wrote:I'm sorry for contributing for that mislynch with no substantive reason. I was only trying to save myself.
i have 2 live tv interviews tomorrow and I'm freakin nervous. Long day tomorrow so I am going to be very absent, I am sorry

Kick some ass, bud.

WHAT?! Anything we can watch?

DFaraday wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

That was absolute bollocks. Nobody talks about Soneji all day, then with ten minutes to go the votes pile on? That's bloody ludicrous!

If anyone asked me, I'd think the baddies are made up of two Soneji voters and either Eloh, Sorsha or G-Man. This just screams save.

I agree with this and I think its Sorsha.

I don't agree with sweeping generalizations, and I think that teammate interactions cannot be accurately surmised until we have one mafia flip. Everyone should be individually assessed for their votes.

DFaraday wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

That was absolute bollocks. Nobody talks about Soneji all day, then with ten minutes to go the votes pile on? That's bloody ludicrous!

If anyone asked me, I'd think the baddies are made up of two Soneji voters and either Eloh, Sorsha or G-Man. This just screams save.

"Save" arguments are putting the cart ahead of horse. It's just as likely that the baddies took advantage of a multi-town wagon.

If anything, I find DF and Elo's predetermined hyperfocus on Soneji voters to be suspicious at face value, but I'm trying not to let disagreements in approach color my vision there too much.

I'm busier than expected, so any proper attention and related analyses from me will have to wait until Day 2.

Coming at you with my pre-vote madness ISO thoughts. I plan on reading the full Day 1 to see how my opinions may or may not shift after digesting the events leading to Soneji's lynch.

This is broken into five categories: Good, Semi-Good, Neutral, Semi-Bad, and Bad. All names are listed in approximate best-to-worst order.

GOOD
Spacedaisy- Her reversal on me in this post was stark. She even seemed to lean in my direction. There wasn't any firm case against me outside of bashing my theorizing, so for her to adopt this stance as a baddie doesn't make sense. There's sidling up to LHF and then there's what she did. Too loud and visible to register as a baddie for me.

Elohcin- The start of her game confused me a little because it seemed haphazard and directionless. But this is a good thing, I think. Sure, she's undoubtedly tinkered with her baddie game by now but she didn't come off in a way that struck me as too agreeable, which is a quality I've spotted in her baddie game the last couple times. She's thinking for herself without letting her thoughts run away with her.


SEMI-GOOD
Quin- I just saw Quin all but clean up as a beast of a baddie in Mad Max but I liked his tone at first. He was curious and just a little confused. He prefers to not have information and he reads like someone who doesn't know much about the game. That's not easily faked but I'll keep looking for any signs of deception.

Soneji- He took a pretty direct approach to things and held fluff to a minimum. I like that. I didn't know that was his normal approach to the game. I've been in two games with him (Turf Wars & Spirited Away) and only one of those games featured direct interaction.

Insertnamehere- He was scratching around at things early on instead of coasting or getting silly with roleplay, asking questions about the game and open to game-relevant discussion. It can be faked, but it seemed genuine enough at the time, despite a small number of posts. More reading required on this one.

Scotty- He's busy and hasn't posted much but for some reason, my gut steers me off of neutral for him. Maybe that's just because he's Sawyer.


NEUTRAL
DFaraday- Low post count that skewed heavier on roleplay than relevant. He was coaxed into reaching for some LHF in Eloh. It's possible I have him and Rico mixed up. Hard to say whether a baddie is the first to suggest LHF or the first to warm up to it.

Epignosis- He's got Kate down to an artform. He's here but not very useful. I'm keeping him here because I have a tendency to auto-sus him.

Dom- I would have placed him in my semi-bad reads save for this comment. That's the kind of comment that comes back to haunt you if I do get killed. Otherwise, his content was lacking and it seems he wasn't paying much attention to the rules. Sick player coasting on Day 1 or slick baddie going under the radar?


SEMI-BAD
MovingPictures07- He had very few posts by the time I did my ISO's and he didn't contribute anything beyond suggesting Daisy was civvie, which I agree with. His post count exploded after that, so I will have to do much more reading to re-calibrate my stance on him.

Ricochet- Lots of pointless roleplaying early on. He only broke that roleplay to reach for LHF in Eloh (and later me). She's an easy target early in games because she's gotten busted once or twice early on recently. I can understand that he's busy hosting a game of his own but for someone who claims he is 10% invested in this game, he's doing alright in the post count.


BAD
Sorsha- Getting LRD vibes from her use of roleplay to coast through most of Day 1. Check her ISO- her first post with anything game-relevant in it came after I threw shade at her and voted for her. Why wait until the final hour of the day to engage? She mentioned not being good at Day 1's. I can sympathize with that's no reason to coast. Also, if any civvie-seeming role could go rogue in this game based on the show, it's Michael.

G-Man wrote:
Ricochet- Lots of pointless roleplaying early on. He only broke that roleplay to reach for LHF in Eloh (and later me). She's an easy target early in games because she's gotten busted once or twice early on recently. I can understand that he's busy hosting a game of his own but for someone who claims he is 10% invested in this game, he's doing alright in the post count.

Oh lookie here, it's the anti-roleplay brigade. Haven't had a player bitch bout that in like what, one game? Needless to say, I am anything but pointlessly playing my part, if ya will, but you seem to be deaf to me saying this to ya time and again. I. have. to push. the button.

You're misinterpreting (or worse) my ping on Eloh into easy targeting. Can't help ya with that, brotha.

I did not say I'm low posting. I don't give a damn where I'm at in post count. I said I'm low invested. There's a diff'rence to that.

Cool it, Des. I'm not leading anybody and I'm not part of any brigade. Maybe you should lay off the whiskey for a while. It seems to make you angry. Believe me, I know anger issues.

G-Man wrote:Cool it, Des. I'm not leading anybody and I'm not part of any brigade. Maybe you should lay off the whiskey for a while. It seems to make you angry. Believe me, I know anger issues.

I'm answering your concerns. And half of them was the same pointless roleplay angle I've argued against to no end. Tis all.

I only get mad at myself when I cut it too close with pushing the button.

I find it pretty hypocritical of you,G-man, to call out players for role play in a game when role play is encouraged. You role play in games when it's not even an aspect of the game. And I think it's borderline mean to pick on me for low contribution on day one when that pretty much all I ever have on day one, I am one of those players who needs a bit of time to settle into a game. I could have done better by just not showing up day one but since this game encourages role play I thought I'd try to have a little fun. Excuse me for that, I thought this was a game though. This is the kind of thing that's making me play fewer and fewer games lately. Plus, you are someone who has been playing mafia with me for longer than almost anyone on here- back to darkufo days- you are calling me out for what I do in basically every game.

Calling out players who seem to be doing more roleplay than gameplay isn't hypocritical. It's an observation. Don't like my observations? Do something different. I'm roleplaying like a mofo but I'm working it around my gameplay.

I don't keep mental tabs on everyone. I don't know how certain names stick in my mind, but they do. I know we go back (were you Sorsha or another name back on STV?) but I don't remember much beyond that. Nothing personal. My brain can only hold so much information at once.

Don't try to paint me as the fun-killer. Been there, done that, poisoned the community. That's not my intent nor what I am doing.

It's an observation that you're basing your judgment on and yes, you are being a fun killer.

You also put Epignosis as neutral when last I checked his roleplay:content ratio was worse than mine. You say it's because you tend to auto-suss him but who cares. Look at the facts of this game here.

You act like you have no knowledge of our previous game play together but I know you and I have gone against each other in games before. I've contributed to your lynch and hounded you all game (or for multiple rounds at least) and it just makes me wonder if your attack on me this game is trying to head that off before it starts again.

I also think that you're basing too much of your opinions of players on their character.

Sorsha wrote:You act like you have no knowledge of our previous game play together but I know you and I have gone against each other in games before. I've contributed to your lynch and hounded you all game (or for multiple rounds at least) and it just makes me wonder if your attack on me this game is trying to head that off before it starts again.

Coincidentally, I checked the master spreadsheet. If you've hounded me in games we've played together here, you were either setting me up or wrong. I've yet to be a baddie in a game we've played together on the Syndicate. Much of my knowledge of pre-Syndicate interactions is hazy and limited at best.

Please also keep in mind that my list was based on ISO's from before the EOD madness. I haven't re-read the game in full yet to gain full context. No one said my reads will stay the same.

Sorsha wrote:And I think it's borderline mean to pick on me for low contribution on day one when that pretty much all I ever have on day one

Sorsha wrote:Lower posters, Scotty and DF declared their locations fairly quickly and skedaddled. That seems a bit suspicious to me, knowing how civs like to tear themselves apart in games- it would benefit them to get business out of the way and then fade out of the convo.

LHF?

LRD?

LOST?