The Syndicate

Elohcin wrote:@Scotty - If I put both Slang and Opt as my BTSC choices and they both pick me...do all three of us get BTSC?

LoRab wrote:Hmm. No immunity but still tribal. That's ominous.

DharmaHelper wrote:Although, another fun option might be just to pick all black rocks which would force a coin flip at worst and give us a shitload of points and food at best. His Majesty is willing to take input on this strategy.

We could also do half and half.

At any rate, I think we should agree to a strategy.

I also think we should all agree to post our choices in the thread and not do them by PM, to make sure we are all being honest.

Boomslang wrote:Man... with no chance to talk to the other team, this gets very difficult very quickly. Consider the following: they're probably angry at us for winning immunity yesterday, and picking black rocks would be a way for them to get revenge. On the other hand, they have fewer people to gather food, and so may hope to boost their chances by getting food from the challenge.

We have the numbers advantage now; we need food handouts less than they do. If they go all black, and we pick even one yellow rock, we get nothing. Given the lack of ability to establish trust, I'd vote to go all black.

But wait: Scotty, are picks revealed one by one in thread?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Man... with no chance to talk to the other team, this gets very difficult very quickly. Consider the following: they're probably angry at us for winning immunity yesterday, and picking black rocks would be a way for them to get revenge. On the other hand, they have fewer people to gather food, and so may hope to boost their chances by getting food from the challenge.

We have the numbers advantage now; we need food handouts less than they do. If they go all black, and we pick even one yellow rock, we get nothing. Given the lack of ability to establish trust, I'd vote to go all black.

But wait: Scotty, are picks revealed one by one in thread?

I'm gonna level with you. Picking all black is tempting, but not the way to go. As I said earlier, this is the prisoner's dilemma. The best way to solve the PD is to pick the that benefits both parties, rather than risking penalizing both parties.

If you're set on not doing all black rocks, I say we at least split it half and half. Then we'll still get food for the whole tribe but we'll also hopefully score some points
I say we all pick yellow rocks, if the pick black rocks so be it.

Linki:

If we decide to go half and half, I know Long Con well enough to know he'll pick yellow so I'll do the same for him.

Opt_Outside wrote:I would propose 4 yellow and 5 black. I'm happy to take a yellow to show I genuinely think it's in tribe's best interest, not mine

YELLOW
- Opt
- DharmaHelper
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BLACK
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DharmaHelper wrote:At LoRab's suggestion, please copy/paste this list with your decision.

YELLOW
- Opt
- DharmaHelper
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BLACK
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speedchuck wrote:I would prefer yellow for my pick, unless someone knows something about MP that I don't.

Also, does anyone want BTSC with me? I'm offering.

DharmaHelper wrote:Can someone who is more familiar with Survivor than I please clarify why this isn't an immunity challenge/if we have Tribal tonight alongside the other tribe?

Opt_Outside wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Can someone who is more familiar with Survivor than I please clarify why this isn't an immunity challenge/if we have Tribal tonight alongside the other tribe?

It's unusual but not unheard of for us to go to tribal without a challenge. Anything can happen in survivor

DharmaHelper wrote:

Opt_Outside wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Can someone who is more familiar with Survivor than I please clarify why this isn't an immunity challenge/if we have Tribal tonight alongside the other tribe?

It's unusual but not unheard of for us to go to tribal without a challenge. Anything can happen in survivor

I see. Well, should be an eventful time.

@HOSTS - Will we be visiting Tribal Council separate from the other tribe, or will both tribes be mingling together tonight?

DrWilgy wrote:Umm... I know we are 50/50, but I'm gomma throw a yellow rock.

I trust SVS :^)

Besides we are up 1 person right now, what will it hurt to throw an extra yellow?

DharmaHelper wrote:

LoRab wrote:Hmm. No immunity but still tribal. That's ominous.

DharmaHelper wrote:Although, another fun option might be just to pick all black rocks which would force a coin flip at worst and give us a shitload of points and food at best. His Majesty is willing to take input on this strategy.

We could also do half and half.

At any rate, I think we should agree to a strategy.

I also think we should all agree to post our choices in the thread and not do them by PM, to make sure we are all being honest.

We have to do them by PM. And they'll be revealed at the end anyway, so any liars will get punished.

Scotty wrote:

Challenge #2: Let’s Rock [Willpower]

Team REWARD, no immunity

One random player will have to go twice today on the tribe with 8 people. I have randomly drawn for this person and it is Quin.

For each round, one player will square off against a player on the other team. Players are playing for cumulative rewards- you leave with what you win.

Each player is given 2 rocks- yellow and black- to choose from and place in a bucket. The yellow rock stands for unity and sharing, while the black rock stands for opportunism and selfishness. Players PM the host (or post in their team thread) which rock they wish to place in the bucket.

If a player places a black rock in the bucket while the opponent places a yellow rock in the bucket, the player with the black rock receives 1 point as well as +1 food for him/herself and the player with the yellow rock receives nothing. If both players place their yellow rock in the bucket, both players will return with +1 food for each other person on the tribe (but not themselves), and both will score a point. If both players place their black rock in the bucket, they receive nothing, and score no points for their team. If you do not submit a PM in time, you forfeit your turn, and point automatically goes to the opponent. If neither PM me, neither get a point. 

The team with the most points wins fishing gear.
If neither team scores a point, no team will win reward; if both teams become tied with 1 or more points, I will toss a coin for winner. Either way, players leave with any acquired food from the challenge.

Note: you may not share the food you receive in this challenge.

I have drawn for matchups:

DFaraday   v   Golden
Quin          v   Boomslang
Sorsha       v   Opt_Outside
SVS         v    DrWilgy
Long Con   v  DharmaHelper
Epignosis   v   insertnamehere
not sawyer  v   Elo
MP          v     speedchuck
Quin       v     LoRab

Please PM me your choice of rock.

speedchuck wrote:LoRab
DrWilgy
Golden

I'm going to be picking 2/3 of you for BTSC tonight. Do any of you refuse, making my choice easier?

Opt_Outside wrote:Okay so I'm here thinking- give a man a fish he eats for a day. Get some fishing gear we eat all game. So I kind of feel like we should do 5 black 4 yellow and push for a win. So maybe one of the yellow should switch? I can if no one else wants to/ everyone would be okay with that

DharmaHelper wrote:

Opt_Outside wrote:Okay so I'm here thinking- give a man a fish he eats for a day. Get some fishing gear we eat all game. So I kind of feel like we should do 5 black 4 yellow and push for a win. So maybe one of the yellow should switch? I can if no one else wants to/ everyone would be okay with that

I like your initiative. If you want to switch, go for it. I'm not comfortable with switching myself.

Opt_Outside wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Opt_Outside wrote:Okay so I'm here thinking- give a man a fish he eats for a day. Get some fishing gear we eat all game. So I kind of feel like we should do 5 black 4 yellow and push for a win. So maybe one of the yellow should switch? I can if no one else wants to/ everyone would be okay with that

I like your initiative. If you want to switch, go for it. I'm not comfortable with switching myself.

Okay I'll switch. If we win I'm happy to use the fishing gear the first time to fish for the tribe and not myself!

So then we just need to hear from Elo and Golden who would in theory take black rocks?

Updated Pick List:

YELLOW
- DharmaHelper
- speedchuck
- INH
- Wilgy

BLACK
- Boomslang
- Lorab
- Opt
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Opt_Outside wrote:Elo I'll BTSC with you too!

Anyone else want to chat with me tonight?

speedchuck wrote:I would prefer yellow for my pick, unless someone knows something about MP that I don't.

Also, does anyone want BTSC with me? I'm offering.

Golden wrote:That's one approach.

The second approach is DH's second approach. All black. If we go all black, we are basically saying... screw the food we get in the challenge, we get the fishing gear if they draw a single yellow, and it's a coin flip if they don't draw a single yellow.

So, what do we want more.... the food from the challenge or the fishing gear? Probably the latter?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Golden wrote:That's one approach.

The second approach is DH's second approach. All black. If we go all black, we are basically saying... screw the food we get in the challenge, we get the fishing gear if they draw a single yellow, and it's a coin flip if they don't draw a single yellow.

So, what do we want more.... the food from the challenge or the fishing gear? Probably the latter?

On the other hand, food from the challenge could hold us over until we are afforded gear anyway.

Golden wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Golden wrote:That's one approach.

The second approach is DH's second approach. All black. If we go all black, we are basically saying... screw the food we get in the challenge, we get the fishing gear if they draw a single yellow, and it's a coin flip if they don't draw a single yellow.

So, what do we want more.... the food from the challenge or the fishing gear? Probably the latter?

On the other hand, food from the challenge could hold us over until we are afforded gear anyway.

We might never be afforded gear... often only one tribe gets gear (but we'd get the benefit of it at the merge).

There's also the possibility food from the challenge needs to be eaten soon or it will spoil.

I'm just trying to think of this in terms of the show.

Golden wrote:I'll defer, speedchuck. Maybe we can catch up on night 3.