Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:01 pm
I'm confident that I want chocolate milk.
Yes which I've done, which is the whole reason I laid out when I thought the cop should claim. However, the anti-fake-role claiming prejudice is alive and well.
i also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
You asked "What specifically do you want out of me?" - Wilgy is saying he wants the mafia out of you.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:51 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:41 pmplease explain your vote?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pmJust because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Now I'm working on something else
What specifically do you want out of me?
No. Sometimes he uses numbers.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pmi also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
Naw, the big boys like to think asking 'What do you want from me' is a classic tell from a desperate baddie. Or something.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pmYou asked "What specifically do you want out of me?" - Wilgy is saying he wants the mafia out of you.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:51 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:41 pmplease explain your vote?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pmJust because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Now I'm working on something else
What specifically do you want out of me?
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pmNo. Sometimes he uses numbers.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pmi also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
i just don't think there was that much of it...
i played "mafia" in my improv group but it wasn't really the same because there was no discussion or strategy, just people sitting in a circle pointing at each other.
that sounds awful and frustrating to be honest, but at least, he's posting i guess????Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pmNo. Sometimes he uses numbers.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pmi also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
I gave speedchuck townie points for the effort he went through in his evaluation. I don't think he landed on thinking it was a good idea in this game.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pmi just don't think there was that much of it...
you "called sig out" on his "watchout roleplay" post then mentioned that you have a habit of tunneling sig, even though that didn't really happen, you mostly just said "hey your strategy has a flaw" and then left it alone
you said that dogs are grosss which is categorically false and also unforgivable.
you claimed that no lynch is a good strategy and gave townie points to speedchuck for agreeing with you with a lot of words, gave more thoughts on that topic
you respond to sig's post about LC
otherwise there's mostly jokes
you've had more content since then but even so i can't pick out any suspicions you've pointed out or agreed with.
overall, you've said a lot, but you haven't "said" much, ya dig? that's where my issue comes in.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:27 pmthat sounds awful and frustrating to be honest, but at least, he's posting i guess????Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pmNo. Sometimes he uses numbers.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pmi also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
Whether the cop claiming is a good thing or not is irrelevant to my read on you.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pm So you basically agree with me then, buuuuut you're lynching me.
I made my case of 1 not fake claiming and 2. only claiming if you have a red check to be very clear. However, this is obviously speed just messing around and poking me.
Also my original sites were super heavy on role claiming, games that allow claiming are my bread and butter. This is quite literally the best strategy for a watcher/cop/info role to use if claiming is allowed. Otherwise you end up sitting on a red check for to long and the other players either miss it or the mafia can manipulate your posts after death, I've done it successfully countless times.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:31 pmWhether the cop claiming is a good thing or not is irrelevant to my read on you.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pm So you basically agree with me then, buuuuut you're lynching me.
I made my case of 1 not fake claiming and 2. only claiming if you have a red check to be very clear. However, this is obviously speed just messing around and poking me.
Also my original sites were super heavy on role claiming, games that allow claiming are my bread and butter. This is quite literally the best strategy for a watcher/cop/info role to use if claiming is allowed. Otherwise you end up sitting on a red check for to long and the other players either miss it or the mafia can manipulate your posts after death, I've done it successfully countless times.
What forms my read on you is the fact you are fishing for the cop's role. I think that is suspicious.
Scum DDL is a very rare sight in the Syndicate, for reasons only the RNG gods know.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pmHis straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmCheck his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pmWhy is DDL good?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:
Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him
linki: good question
linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
I'm already picturing a National Geographic episode about a scum DDL.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:34 pmScum DDL is a very rare sight in the Syndicate, for reasons only the RNG gods know.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pmHis straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmCheck his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pmWhy is DDL good?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:
Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him
linki: good question
linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
I think I've been scum maybe 3 times here.
ricochet uses kind of a similar mascot tactic right? but i've seen him use words to explain his pointsQuin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:30 pmI gave speedchuck townie points for the effort he went through in his evaluation. I don't think he landed on thinking it was a good idea in this game.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pmi just don't think there was that much of it...
you "called sig out" on his "watchout roleplay" post then mentioned that you have a habit of tunneling sig, even though that didn't really happen, you mostly just said "hey your strategy has a flaw" and then left it alone
you said that dogs are grosss which is categorically false and also unforgivable.
you claimed that no lynch is a good strategy and gave townie points to speedchuck for agreeing with you with a lot of words, gave more thoughts on that topic
you respond to sig's post about LC
otherwise there's mostly jokes
you've had more content since then but even so i can't pick out any suspicions you've pointed out or agreed with.
overall, you've said a lot, but you haven't "said" much, ya dig? that's where my issue comes in.
You are correct that I haven't given a lot of reads. Aside from some good feelings you can infer from my posts, I haven't got that many, none of which are scum reads. I just disagree that to say something it has to be tied to a read.
Also, can you answer my question about your mafia history? It's actually kind of an important question.
linki: i see you did. I town read you, Kyle. I often see new (or extended leavers) come in and use that position as a crutch to survive in the game. You have done no such thing. For now, that's good enough for me.
linki2: have you met ricochet?
Moongose's pants's game.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:07 pmActually, I think I have seen scum DDL once. He died Day 1 though. I remember him being more absent than he is here. @Dragon D. Luffy, any idea which game I'm talking about? I want to fact check.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pmHis straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmCheck his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pmWhy is DDL good?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:
Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him
linki: good question
linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
Please tell me there's an ISO function.
is there an isolate posts function in narto forum?
For all it's worth I'm actually reading LC as moderate civ now.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:14 pmHe pressured MP about the lack of scumreads.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:05 pmcan you give some examples of this happening? I was noticing the exact opposite during my read but maybe you saw something i didnt?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmEach directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them.
Pushed Dunya for questioning him.
Didn't give LC any slack for his D1 No Lynch bit.
Pushed Sig over his cop-claim bit.
Voted out in the thread to make a statement.
It's more of a tone-read to me, but I feel like DDL is going around and flicking everyone on the nose. MP is bad about not doing scumreads. LC was getting townreads from his gambit. Same for Sig and his asking the cop to claim.
The generally towniest or most dangerous players in the game are making things happen, and DDL is going around to bop them on the nose. Not a huge amount, but hey, it's D1. And I want to keep that around.
Aye aye!speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:41 pm Fer the rest of you swabbies, the reason I ask is that open setups often have no flips. Closed setups often do, or just have them on the lynch.
This setup is in the middle. It's half-open.
Knowing this will absolutely affect what we should do with our roles.
One thing is fake claiming, the other is posting fake reads so once the cop dies the players know who they investigated.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant the latter.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:44 pmOne thing is fake claiming, the other is posting fake reads so once the cop dies the players know who they investigated.
The former is just confusing, the later can be a viable strategy. Though here the chance of a cop even existing is 25% so I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble.
I was hoping there was a way to isolate only your posts on the naruto forum, is there?
The question was about whether you should be reading those people as more baddies than just 2-4, not about confidence. Right now it seems you are reading all of them as civs.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:59 pmIt's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.
That conversation ended an hour ago. I've moved on.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.
*votes Quin*
why does it seem like that to you?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pmThe question was about whether you should be reading those people as more baddies than just 2-4, not about confidence. Right now it seems you are reading all of them as civs.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:59 pmIt's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.
Allow me to rephrase the sentence then.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:55 pmThat conversation ended an hour ago. I've moved on.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.
*votes Quin*
Well, in that case!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:57 pmAllow me to rephrase the sentence then.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:55 pmThat conversation ended an hour ago. I've moved on.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.
*votes Quin*
Quin was focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming an hour ago I'm getting the feeling he was doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.
Nos specifically this, but he likes to add in weird ways that vary each game.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pmi also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:37 pmricochet uses kind of a similar mascot tactic right? but i've seen him use words to explain his points
i guess it's kind of irrelevant but i don't really like it because it trades good communication for becoming wallpaper.
maybe i'm just a little jealous that i didn't think of it first.