Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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what makes them especially untrustworthy? Even if they do have info, that doesn't mean they are bad necessarily. Civvies get info on polls sometimes.thellama73 wrote:I love a hairbrained theory, and I'm going to stick with this one as long as it is tenable. The pig voters must have had info on the poll, and that means they cannot be trusted!
They are untrustworthy because I don't trust them, and vice versa.reywaS wrote:what makes them especially untrustworthy? Even if they do have info, that doesn't mean they are bad necessarily. Civvies get info on polls sometimes.thellama73 wrote:I love a hairbrained theory, and I'm going to stick with this one as long as it is tenable. The pig voters must have had info on the poll, and that means they cannot be trusted!
I don't think there's much doubt she was good.. RIP for sure.DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:RIPIYWG SVS. D:
She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all... I do agree she seems an odd choice to take out. Could she have done or said something to earn the baddies' wrath?Nevinera wrote:I don't think there's much doubt she was good.. RIP for sure.DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:RIPIYWG SVS. D:
Why SVS though? She didn't point the finger at anyone but Boogs, a known steamer..
All she's been doing is making other players justify their actions, and not even very harshly.
You really do go on don't you. We read your post. We know what you said. I already answered this and you chose to ignore it. Do you have any more to say on the matter?Nevinera wrote:Russ: "The hinting at info or grand theories"
Snow: "what is this marvelous insight?"
Here's the text of the post you were both talking about:
Point out any claimed 'grand theories' or 'marvelous insights'? I had some logic to share, and it was risky to do so.Nevinera wrote:I've noticed a few things about the setup that I'd love to share, but if I point them out I'll almost certainly be scrapped tonight.
But everyone.. think about how the Narrows are going to play out, from various points of view.
And be careful, the early game is more important than usual here.
I'm not trying to make out that you were playing up my post intentionally, or even that it would un-civ-il to do so if you were.
Just that it bore watching.
If the mafia has any players from my other games in it, then I probably didn't need to be worried really.
I'm like a suspicion magnet; I'll be at the top of every 'keep him alive to draw fire' list forever.
I just don't see anything. I've been rereading her posts carefully, and I don't see any sensical reason someone would scrap her. A few nonsensical ones maybe, and one real stretch involving the secret power..Bullzeye wrote: She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all... I do agree she seems an odd choice to take out. Could she have done or said something to earn the baddies' wrath?
Well you never answered my post so I didn't know what else to call it. If you have a better word I'll be willing to use it. All I have done is show what you have written.Nevinera wrote:I just don't see anything. I've been rereading her posts carefully, and I don't see any sensical reason someone would scrap her. A few nonsensical ones maybe, and one real stretch involving the secret power..Bullzeye wrote: She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all... I do agree she seems an odd choice to take out. Could she have done or said something to earn the baddies' wrath?
It kind of sounds like you're trying to direct the discourse here.
So tell me, *did* she do something to earn said wrath? -.O
linki Snow: Not really, I think I've expressed my reasons sufficiently. I certainly didn't "ignore" anything, but I'm not at all surprised that you'd cast it that way.
Really? That's a bit of a stretch. I was just trying to start up a conversation that might have lead to some new people to look at or new ways to look at old suspects...Nevinera wrote:I just don't see anything. I've been rereading her posts carefully, and I don't see any sensical reason someone would scrap her. A few nonsensical ones maybe, and one real stretch involving the secret power..Bullzeye wrote: She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all... I do agree she seems an odd choice to take out. Could she have done or said something to earn the baddies' wrath?
It kind of sounds like you're trying to direct the discourse here.
So tell me, *did* she do something to earn said wrath? -.O
linki Snow: Not really, I think I've expressed my reasons sufficiently. I certainly didn't "ignore" anything, but I'm not at all surprised that you'd cast it that way.
Bullzeye wrote:Nev is either a bit touchy or suspecting everyone at the moment. Personally I think he is bad. A bad diesel.Nevinera wrote:I just don't see anything. I've been rereading her posts carefully, and I don't see any sensical reason someone would scrap her. A few nonsensical ones maybe, and one real stretch involving the secret power..Bullzeye wrote: She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all... I do agree she seems an odd choice to take out. Could she have done or said something to earn the baddies' wrath?
It kind of sounds like you're trying to direct the discourse here.
So tell me, *did* she do something to earn said wrath? -.O
linki Snow: Not really, I think I've expressed my reasons sufficiently. I certainly didn't "ignore" anything, but I'm not at all surprised that you'd cast it that way.
Really? That's a bit of a stretch. I was just trying to start up a conversation that might have lead to some new people to look at or new ways to look at old suspects...
Which post? You have three in which you said roughly the same thing, in increasingly shorter ways. I answered the first two, and my answers *more* than sufficed as a response to the post saying "I didn't misrepresent anything".Snow Dog wrote: Well you never answered my post so I didn't know what else to call it. If you have a better word I'll be willing to use it. All I have done is show what you have written.
I suspect this very good advice is likely the reason for her sudden departure. We would do well to heed it in the future.S~V~S wrote:Nice way to spread the vote even further~ the baddies can swoop in and lynch a civ with just one vote with such a spread, especially if the lurkers dont vote
It just felt stilted to me. Like he was trying to prompt us to come up with some theories without putting anything out there himself. My response was intended to be a bit tongue-in-cheek though.thellama73 wrote:I think what bullz said is logical and correct. I find Nev's reaction to it a little odd.
That does make some sense. She was behaving as sort of general font of wisdom for the new players in other ways too.thellama73 wrote:I suspect this very good advice is likely the reason for her sudden departure. We would do well to heed it in the future.
I don't understand. She was Nked, not lynched. Or do you mean she was killed for giving good advice?thellama73 wrote:I suspect this very good advice is likely the reason for her sudden departure. We would do well to heed it in the future.S~V~S wrote:Nice way to spread the vote even further~ the baddies can swoop in and lynch a civ with just one vote with such a spread, especially if the lurkers dont vote
It doesn't respond to it at all.Nevinera wrote:It just felt stilted to me. Like he was trying to prompt us to come up with some theories without putting anything out there himself. My response was intended to be a bit tongue-in-cheek though.thellama73 wrote:I think what bullz said is logical and correct. I find Nev's reaction to it a little odd.
That does make some sense. She was behaving as sort of general font of wisdom for the new players in other ways too.thellama73 wrote:I suspect this very good advice is likely the reason for her sudden departure. We would do well to heed it in the future.
Maybe there just wasn't anyone they definitely wanted scrapped, so they decided to take out the stabilizing players who have been around the block the most?
linki snow: I already linked to the post that responded to that one.
Bullz was asking what would make the baddies single her out for an NK. I was suggesting the good advice she was giving might be the reason.Snow Dog wrote:I don't understand. She was Nked, not lynched. Or do you mean she was killed for giving good advice?thellama73 wrote:I suspect this very good advice is likely the reason for her sudden departure. We would do well to heed it in the future.S~V~S wrote:Nice way to spread the vote even further~ the baddies can swoop in and lynch a civ with just one vote with such a spread, especially if the lurkers dont vote
I have an eye on Nev after his response to me, but other than that I'm not too sure. I haven't been the most active player so I may need a reread today to see if there's anything I missed.thellama73 wrote:What are people's thoughts on the lynch today? I will going with a Pig voter, but haven't decided which one yet. Probably either Nev or DP. I think Hedgeowl may have been on to something with him.
Yes nev. Not sure. He certainly has got attention now that's for sure. What's this about the pig voters?Bullzeye wrote:I have an eye on Nev after his response to me, but other than that I'm not too sure. I haven't been the most active player so I may need a reread today to see if there's anything I missed.thellama73 wrote:What are people's thoughts on the lynch today? I will going with a Pig voter, but haven't decided which one yet. Probably either Nev or DP. I think Hedgeowl may have been on to something with him.
DP normally starts quiet.Hedgeowl wrote:I am still undecided, but I am uninclined towards Nev. There are accusations flying back and forth, but I don't find Nev anymore suspicious than Snow currently. I am doing some rereads, but find little to suspect except that Nev originally was absent. Clearly, this has been resolved. There are also many other players who have not posted much, including DP, who has ignored my accusation and lynch vote.
All four votes for Pigs came from people who missed the previous lynch vote. I have a crazy conspiracy theory that these people had some info on the poll, and I think that indicates baddieness.Snow Dog wrote:What's this about the pig voters?
I didn't get anything from that poll, if it helps. Not even bacon, and I feel a bit cheated.thellama73 wrote: All four votes for Pigs came from people who missed the previous lynch vote. I have a crazy conspiracy theory that these people had some info on the poll, and I think that indicates baddieness.
Nevinera wrote:I didn't get anything from that poll, if it helps. Not even bacon, and I feel a bit cheated.thellama73 wrote: All four votes for Pigs came from people who missed the previous lynch vote. I have a crazy conspiracy theory that these people had some info on the poll, and I think that indicates baddieness.
Would it have killed you to pm me some bacon, Epi?
I would like to know this too....hosts?Hedgeowl wrote:Hosts- Since diesel 10 may prevent someone voting the next day, does this mean the person won't use the poll or will their vote instead be ignored?
thellama73 wrote:What are people's thoughts on the lynch today? I will going with a Pig voter, but haven't decided which one yet. Probably either Nev or DP. I think Hedgeowl may have been on to something with him.
Not sure why someone would have wanted you dead at this point. Perhaps to be untraceable?Sorry mang, I didn't notice. I'll go look back.Hedgeowl wrote:I am still undecided, but I am uninclined towards Nev. There are accusations flying back and forth, but I don't find Nev anymore suspicious than Snow currently. I am doing some rereads, but find little to suspect except that Nev originally was absent. Clearly, this has been resolved. There are also many other players who have not posted much, including DP, who has ignored my accusation and lynch vote.
Not everyone's always full of ideas. ;oForce of habit.Bullzeye wrote:She almost had to have been good right? There's only one baddie team after all...Nevinera wrote:I don't think there's much doubt she was good.. RIP for sure.DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:RIPIYWG SVS. D:
Why SVS though? She didn't point the finger at anyone but Boogs, a known steamer..
All she's been doing is making other players justify their actions, and not even very harshly.
Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
It could very well be different. This is kind of an easier game.Bullzeye wrote:Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
But if they could only target civvies, that outs everyone they target as a civvie and towards the end it'd get really obvious who the baddies were. Would be easier for them to just not target anyone except for the NK if that were the case.Snow Dog wrote:It could very well be different. This is kind of an easier game.Bullzeye wrote:Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
I was just saying what might be. I don't actually know.Bullzeye wrote:But if they could only target civvies, that outs everyone they target as a civvie and towards the end it'd get really obvious who the baddies were. Would be easier for them to just not target anyone except for the NK if that were the case.Snow Dog wrote:It could very well be different. This is kind of an easier game.Bullzeye wrote:Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
Oh dear, I was afraid that might be the case. Well, we'll wait to hear.Bullzeye wrote:Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
This could be said about so many of us in this gameA Person wrote:I'm terrible at making decisions, so waiting until the last minute is the only way I get things doneHedgeowl wrote:I am currently suspicious of those who didn't vote. Especially those like Lizzy and A Person who were waiting so last minute that they missed the vote. First day voting for noobs could be an excuse for some, but doesn't work for everyone. Not sure on Nev currently, but he's not my inclination for the next vote.
However, Snow Dog I am curious if you will be voting for A Person again and do you have any further thoughts?